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  1. My lad received in the post an advise and information booklet on keeping his motorcycle safe and secure, sent by the local police. He had recently just brought the scooter, and had only ridden it a half dozen times and had not been stopped as it was Taxed, MOT'd and Insured. I was told that the local police force buy the information from the DVLA and wondered if this was true? As that being a Council Tax Payer, a proportion of the Tax goes to my local force. Having waited 8 days for them (the police) to come out after having a brick through my window, I find myself wondering if this is one of the reasons why in the last 9 months I HAVE NEVER SEEN A POLICE OFFICER ON THE STREETS LOCALLY! Why should we be paying the police to pay the DVLA for data that must be covered by the data Protection Act?? While I have no issues had he been stopped for an offence, I seriously think this money would have been better spent on having a viseable police presence on the street. I have had all sorts of worthless junk mail from the police of late and even received Victim Support correspondence long before an officer turned up. I wonder if the other member's on here agree that it's about time to put a stop on government department's selling on our personnel information.
  2. Hello, I was apprehended by security in primark yesterday after I left the shop. I went back into the detention room and he searched my bag. He brought out the items I hadn't paid for and called the police on me. I really do not have an excuse for this and I am greatly ashamed. I panicked and started crying and apologizing, even agreed to pay the £95, now I don't know how that value came by because I did some exchange and paid some money via my card, I was too distraught to challenge it but that is not even the problem. The security man collected my provisional driver's license, wrote down my details and passed it on to the police men when they arrived. One of the cops went with the security man while the other sat with me. I wouldn't exactly call it an interview, he questioned me gently and went through the things I had which were all baby clothes (I have a 2, month old) I told him I needed to call to make sure my baby was alright but he said I could only do that at the station. I broke down into tears again and he offered to call my mum who was watching my kids and tell her I was with the police but well and fine. I declined this offer cos I didn't want my mum to know anything about what was going on. She would have been very disappointed. The process seemed to be dragging and I told the cop I needed to be home to breastfeeding my baby, he said I would have to go in with them and it was going to take a few hours. I started crying again, he asked if I had ever had a run in with the police and I said no. He said the only help he could offer if my trace came back clean was to call his sergeant and get clearance for him not to take me into the station so I could get home soon. Now, so many little processes were followed by primarily staff, such as refunding my money, giving back my exchange... But they were all a blur as I was in a state by then. The police took my children's date of birth and said they were going to pass it on to ss to make sure they were all right and I could get a visit or not. I refused to do this at first cos they are innocent in all this. Secondly, I was taken into the van and heard him call his sergeant and said something about caution or process on the street, I'm not sure of the exact words. He read me my rights and basically said I won't be taken to court if I pleaded guilty. Which I did. What is this street processing or caution? Will it go on my records for life? 3rd, primark gave me a printout saying I should expect civil recovery. Again what and how will this be handled. Lastly, I was taken home by the police, they wanted to make sure my kids were ok, I requested that they wait in the hallway cos of my mum. He agreed to wait outside the door but held the door open with his feet. I brought them to him and they left. I have been unable to sleep and I've berated myself for this foolish act. What a great price to pay for something so silly. Sorry this is a long post, I wanted to include as much details as I can.
  3. Hello Guys / Gals, I love coming here as there is people that give expert advice, and if followed you can save a scrape or two. I have a mate that works a 6-2, 2-10 pm shift, on this day he has gone in early at 5:45am. He has had a few beers that day before and someone has smelt alcohol on his breath. He has suggested that there is some harresment from some fellow employees. Anyway, he has started work at 6am but got breathalyzed at 6:15am. This had a reading of 36... 1 point over the 35mg limit... West Yorkshire Police do not Prosecute anything under 40mg My mate had, mouth wash and Benylin which apparently can bump up dodgy lion 500 Alcometer readings. They only give one chance on the blow meter, instant termination.... Does he have a chance? He got set on the books, but not been there 2 years.... Ideas?
  4. hi everyone i need help badly. a few days ago i was caught stealing at boots and the security guard lead me to their security room. inside, there is one female boots staff and another security guard from the shopping mall. total three of them. the security guard from boots asked me to take out whatever stuff i have stolen i did as told as i was too afraid. later on, he asked for my id and name and home address which i gave as well issued me with an RPL form. the amount i have stolen was £220 i know its so stupid i stole 4/5 perfumes thats why the amount is expensive. he called the police police came and searched my bag found another item i had stolen from another stall. i cant lie because the tag is still on and i have no receipt. the police took me to custody at police station. first all my items are being emptied from my bag and jacket and all the police found another item in my jacket which i totally forgot about it i was so scared i keep begging her but no use i was asked if i need a solicitor the police and the surgeon kept saying whether or not i have the surgeon decision is not going to change. i told them i dont need which i regret after i come back home i was asked questions by the surgeon and lead to a cell room which i was lock. after an hour or so the police come and told me they are going to my house and check my room and state this is always the case for stealing. i was so worried another hour has pass in the cell room and finally she is back she said my room doesnt look suspicious and she commented i always have tea in room? later on she interview me with a recording and then ask me lots questions. i admitted of stealing at two stores afterwards, my dna and photo (front and side views) as well as my finger prints are all taken and recorded i was told by the surgeon that my case will be a caution (is that called caution?) and i can go home. no action will be taken and the polices just told me not to do silly things anymore and they say i might receive letter from boots thats all. i assume that will be the RPL lettter? im so scared: will my housemates know what letter that is? is there any sign showing that letter is from RPL? also, will i be fine??? btw im above 20 years old. I need help people. i couldnt sleep for nights and keep having bad dream about it. what shall i do. someone help me please
  5. Sorry this is in the wrong section, but its the only one that appears to allow my to start a thread. What are peoples views on this. Grandson was attacked by a dog in a public place In the presence of his teacher and the dog owner. his teacher reported it to the police who said it was nothing to do with them. Of course this offence covered by section 3 of the dangerous dog act 1991 and section 2 of the dog act 1871 and is indeed something the police should deal with. Daughter complained and was first said told that the incident hadn't been reported but she had the PCSOs collar number. She's just had another call and had been told by another PC that there was nothing wrong with what the teacher was told but refused to divulge full details of the phone call because of data protection.
  6. Hi everyone, apologies if this has been asked before - i did search i wonder if someone could offer some advice please? Totally out of character I shoplifted some items from a shop and was ultimately caught. I know it was incredibly stupid, I've never done anything like that before. The police were called and they questioned me in the security office. Im in my 30s and I have never been in trouble with the police before. They cautioned me and escorted me off the premises. [Edit: the police actually took my home as they said they needed to confirm who I was. They said since the only ID had was a provisional licence and sometimes people move without updating licence. The picture on the licence is 9 years old so i do look slightly different now - another reason to take me home. I still live with my parent & officers came in to check I was who i said I was. I lied to my dad saying i was a witness to car accident & police kindly dropped me of so they could confirm details. Police had said they wouldnt mention the theft to my dad. How pathetic that at 30 I'm terrified my dad will find out ] The police said they will send a report to the Procurator Fiscal who will decided how to proceed. Can anyone offer advice on what I can expect to happen. I know what I did was stupid & i feel awful about the who incident so please i don't need judgements just advice please. i am sick with worry about this. Thanks
  7. I find this totally amusing. About a two weeks ago I sent further letters to my Creditors, one of whom is Nat West Bank, the following week I get a knock on the door from two local police. I had no idea why they were calling but eventually they said Nat West had contacted them and asked them to visit. Why, you may ask. Well, in the letter I said that the debt was making me feel so stressed, depressed, etc., that I felt suicidal. After chatting with the police for a couple of minutes, they left; as they went through the gate I said: 'See you next week then when you come back to check I'm still alive'. I should say I have been paying £1 per month on a regular basis to each of my Creditors for the last year or so. The letter was an update on my situation, and I have to say that of the two banks I owe money to Nat West have been the worst and most aggressive in their approach. Still, I was able to see the funny side of this. I should point out that I am definitely NOT suicidal, I am just fighting their way, by giving them something to think about in return for their aggressive stance. For those interested, or having similar problems, here is the guts of the letter I sent, please note that this was the first time I asked them to consider righting the debt off; but doubt they will - worth a try though. Also, the debt charity StepChange have been very helpful to me, as has this forum. Fight on folks! -------------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir/Madam I am in financial difficulties and not able to meet my normal monthly payments. I will make a monthly payment of whatever I can afford until more money is available. I have enclosed my monthly budget and a list of creditors. After paying my household bills, I can pay you £1.00. I will pay this each month and tell you when my circumstances change. Please consider reducing or stopping interest or any other charges on my account to help me during my financial difficulties. NOTE: I have a long history of depression and am currently taking medication for this. The stress of all this is causing much distress, depression and panic attacks, leaving me feeling suicidal. Please be advised that I will only communicate with you in writing. Furthermore, should it be your intention to arrange a “doorstep call”, please be advised that under OFT rules, you can only visit me at my home if you make an appointment and I have no wish to make such an appointment with you. There is only an implied license under English Common Law for people to be able to visit me on my property without express permission; the postman and people asking for directions etc., (Armstrong v Sheppard & Short Ltd [1959] 2 QB 384. per Lord Evershed M.R.). Therefore take note that I revoke license under Common Law for you, or your representatives to visit me at my property and, if you do so, you will be liable to damages for a tort of trespass and action will be taken, including but not limited to, police attendance. Yours faithfully
  8. “I didn’t know what to do, I was so hungry. So I took the bugger back to the shop and told Dicky in the shop I wanted a large steak for compensation, as I almost chipped my tooth! When Dicky behind the counter looked inside the pasty, he shouted “s*** THE BED!” and ran out the door and hid behind a car! I couldn’t believe it! I had to go behind the counter and get my own bleddy pasty! I don’t know about bomb, but I know one thing – customer service in Hayle has gone down hill lately, it’s nothing like it use to be!” http://cornishnews.com/2015/02/02/police-find-a-pasty-bomb-in-hayle/
  9. Dear All, I made a formal complaint to my housing assoc. about excessive noise made by one of their cleaners (who cleans the communal stairs in the flats where I live, and who I've asked not to make noise before). When I asked the cleaner to stop making such excessive noise, she was rude toward me and I was a bit shaken up about it. When making my complaint to the housing assoc., they suggested that I complain to the police about the cleaner if I thought they'd been aggressive. I declined and said that I thought it was unnecessary to involve the police and that complaining to them was sufficient. Two days later (today) I have been visited by two police officers, who claimed that the cleaner had now said that it was me who had been aggressive ! They advised me that should she be noisy again not to speak to her directly and to contact the housing assoc. I asked if I was being charged with anything, and they said not. I also asked why it was deemed necessary to send the police, when an email from the housing assoc. would have been sufficient?! I feel utterly intimidated by the whole thing, and believe that the housing assoc. are abusing their power and authority. Can I be arrested/prosecuted for this specious complaint? Anyone know what my rights are? Or if there's anything I can do about this? Best wishes, Milly (worried)
  10. If a used vehicle is sold to a police officer - do they have a right to expect better treatment and can they threaten you with their position if things go wrong ( or not their way?) Also, if this police officer turns out to have actually retired can they continue to inform you ''they are the police'' and you will be in big trouble if you don't do what they want. Would this be deemed as impersonating a police officer?
  11. Hi Guys, my partner has received a notice for her details from the police for an alleged "action" in a car park used by mums picking up kids from pre-school. it states the Application is for the drivers details for alledged driving dangerously, carelessly or without consideration for other persons, contrary to sections 2 and 3 of the road traffic act 1988. They want the details of the driver on the date of the incident before they say anything else about the alleged offence. Their form is leading as if you fill it out it confirms you were driving (2 months ago) but either of us rarely drive as we live within a 3 minute walk. even if my partner did, which she cant remember - what does this mean, what are our rights? Many Thanks in advance TSF Will this form
  12. My sons bike got stolen, police have found it and sent letter for collection, what are the fees as I don't know if it is worth getting back, if they keep it what will they charge him. he Thanks Mashmallow
  13. quick question. bailiffs clamp my friends car over unpaid council ticket. he sat in the car and bailiff called the police. informed him he was committing the offence of obstructing an enforcement officer and will be arrested. officers radioed control who said to go ahead and arrest them can they do this
  14. Refund fraud mistaken return tk maxx, bought lots of items in august, returned new jacket/jeans from my wardrobe which tk maxx claim is not theirs. Seen cctv and i have returned an item with a tag from another. I have been under a period of stress with baby/uncertain job/family member advanced cancer. It was an innocent mistake as i thought the tags belonged to those items. in actual fact, there is no distinction on the label between a jacket and another jacket. and this is the case i put forward at 'police chat' with solicitor, it was strange debating wether TK M sold 'Superdry' stuff. I left without caution. What happens after police interview? Office mentioned he will call tk maxx and have a chat. Any ideas??
  15. Tayside Police have apologised to the Muslim community for using a six-month-old trainee police dog named Rebel on their campaign advertising a non-emergency police telephone number. Muslims in the Dundee area are upset by the image, as they consider dogs ‘ritually unclean’. Some Islamic scholars believe dogs are impure. If you have the misfortune to be touched by one of these impure creatures, you are required to wash the offending area seven times. In the event of an explosion, earthquake, or other disaster, which often occur in Muslim countries, or perhaps a gas explosion in Dundee, do they refuse when the wet nose of a hard-working sniffer dog finds and touches them under the rubble?. This ‘filthy creature’ not only puts its life on the line, but often endures a six-month quarantine afterwards. Are we also to assume that airport security might be at risk as Muslim passengers might be spared a good old security sniffing? Great Britain is renowned for being an animal-loving country, and long may it remain so. Shame on you, Tayside Police, you have offended me with your apology.
  16. Hi Everyone Hi want to get some help for a close friend of mine who will I suspect follow this thread as a guest, i hope! I have posted this as result of the monthly CAG email article about civil recovery, great news btw! Anyway.... Brief synopsis: 2 years ago, TKMAxx, swapped price tags, caught, taken in a room and police called (?), they both went out of the room twice throughout the discussison, let off (we think), unsure if cautioned, could have been PCSO. Banned, they took her mobile number and debit card details [removed] and RLP have been paid something like £250!!! My friend needs to have an enhanced CRB check done for something and is obviously very worried. This was a one off incident totally not in character for them in a moment at a time of great stress. I have given my friend the chat about not being paranoid now about being followed and they have have probably forgotten about it now, etc. So, as result of this article and bunch of the threads in this section where I have this new eye opening knowledge!. Firstly, we are trying to find out from the police exactly what happened at the time and what was "archived" and what may come out on a CRB check, this will hopefully let us know if it was a PCSO and they went over the 30 mins detainment, the details if any. What can we do, if anything, about the £250 that was paid to RLP? Does anyone here have any accurate info about whether this can be charged back from her debit card (after 2 years)? Does anyone have any accurate knowledge of enhanced CRB checks and what might be on it as result of this. I know this may be difficult to comment on now as we need more info and the memory is a blur for my friend and details sketchy of what was exactly said at the time? Last thought, £250 for nothing taken, speechless!!!! Thanks Steve
  17. On 21 July 2014 at 0830 hrs I was stopped by the police driving my car which was legally insured. However, because on this day I was going to work; I normally use a van which had broken down on the evening of the 18 July 2014. The police told me that because my insurance cover did not include commuting, I was driving illegally. We could not get hold of the insurance company before 0900 hrs so we had to wait. The police told me that I was not allowed to speak to the insurance company before they did. They also said I would need to have my insurance document in front of me before I spoke to the insurance company. However they said when they speak to the insurance company they agreed that I could just pay the excess to allow me to drive to work then that will be the end of the story. However, after they spoke to the insurance company they told me that my insurance company had told them that I was in breach of the contract and they had therefore cancelled my insurance. As a result the police then towed my car away; I got a taxi back home and contacted the insurance company explaining everything. My insurance company said they were not told that I was available at the side road because I would just been asked to pay £40 and an amended document emailed to me. The insurance company also said my insurance was not cancelled I could continue using it as it is or add £40 to include commuting. I chose to add the £40 and they emailed me an amended document not a new insurance as I had been misinformed by the police that I was now uninsured. I paid £170 to collect my car the next day and I am due to produce my licence for 6 points and £300 fine for driving uninsured. I lost two days wages, train fare and fuel to the pound twice because my wife is the keeper but I am the owner. Taxi fare on the seizure day. I feel aggrieved that this is over the top unreasonable and punitive; I could be wrong but as you can guess that is why I am here. I would appreciate informative help, if I just need to pay and have 6 points please tell me straight. Thank you
  18. Hello, this is my first post so apologies if I've not posted it in the correct place. my brother got a flat tyre and/or ran out of petrol, not sure which. He left the car parked not obstructing anything overnight. He came to it the next day to find it was gone, reported it stolen to find out the police had taken it -reason, because he'd left tools in the back which he'd just collected that day -he's a mechanic and these are the only tools he has! He was told they'd ring him back and tell him where his car was, they didn't. Finally got through to them and they didn't know what they'd done with his car! Finally found it, and told him where it'd been taken to -all this time it's racking up fees. Was told he has to pay nearly £300 to get it back. He can't actually afford that, and without his tools can't do any work either. can he appeal this, what right did the police have to take his car like this when it wasn't causing any issue? Just because he had tools in the back? Do they just say they "can't find it" so it takes longer and adds up more fees before they find it? Or are they just incompetent? Thanks.
  19. On 21st April I started a new thread here concerning the response that had been received from the Metroploitan Police to a Freedom of Information request regarding police and bailiff roadside operations. This is clearly a subject that has gained the attention of the public and this can be demonstrated by the fact that the thread has been viewed over 13,000 times. For new visitors not wishing to read back on the many pages a short description is below: A Freedom of Information request had been made to the Metropolitan police regarding Police and Bailiff Roadside Operations. It would seem that the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) did not address the enquiry in the usual period of time and this led to the person making the request to ask for an internal review. The MPS were also advised that all further correspondence was being copied to that persons MP and the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO). The MPS responded in April 2014 and it was clear when compiling the information that the 'penny had dropped' with the Metropolitan Police in that these 'ANPR Roadside Operations' should NOT have be taking place with private sector bailiffs and instead, should only be in partnership with Civilian Enforcement Officers who are employed in the magistrates’ court by HM Courts & Tribunals Service and who are responsible for enforcing certain magistrates’ court and Crown Court orders (such as warrants of arrest, committal, detention and distress). Statutory regulations were changed in 2006 allowing HMCS to Contract with private sector companies to permit them to enforce these criminal warrants on their behalf. The Contracts were subject to re-tendering a couple of years ago and there are now 4 companies (Marston Group, Collectica Ltd, Swift Credit Services and Excel Enforcement) enforcing such warrants. Under these Contracts the officers are known as Approved Enforcement Officers. Parking Mad Shortly after the response to the FOI the public were able to witness for themselves how Police and Bailiff Roadside Operations work in practice when they viewed the new "Panorama' series on TV. There were 4 episodes each running for an hour and featured a bailiff company called Whyte & Co using ANPR vehicles to enforce unpaid parking tickets. The timing of the episodes could not have been worse given that only a few weeks earlier (on 6th April) the government had introuced its long awaited new regulations to reform the bailiff industry. Seeing first hand how these 'police and bailiff roadside operations work in practice made for very uncomfortable viewing indeed and the legality of these operations was once again 'under the spotlight'. It is known that many complaints were made to the TV company after the series ended and over 40 separate Freedom of Information requests were known to have been made to local authorities and police forces. MPS 'suspended' police and bailiff 'roadside operations' On 11th June I updated the tread (post number 110) to report that the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) had confirmed that they had suspended such operations. I am aware of a great deal of work that is ongoing 'behind the scenes' regarding these operations and yesterday a response was received from one of the many Freedom of Information requests as outlined above. Once again, the Metropolitan Police's response is very serious indeed and given that the previous thread had so many pages to it I thought it better to dedicate a new thread. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?422834-Police-and-Bailiff-%91ANPR-Roadside-Operations%92...response-at-last-from-the-Metropolitan-Police-!!!(3-Viewing)-nbsp
  20. I found this site through googling the police appeals tribunal rules.
  21. Hi there, Helping my neighbor out again and need some advice. 4 years ago the police executed a search warrant and confiscated a lot of equipment. No charges were made and he got most of his equipment back. They lost a bag containing about £1000 worth of equipment, and after about a year of writing to the legal department they paid him £100, and he decided no to chase anymore due to the stress. Now they have sent him a letter saying they found his stuff, and he has to pay them the £100 back before he can have it back. He doesn't have a £100, how should he proceed? Are they allowed to keep his stuff? What about compensation for the 4 years of non-use. He is not even being allowed to inspect it for damage first(its likely that after 4 years in a police lockup, the equipment might be unusable. Some of the other equipment was returned damaged, and they told him that was tough and refused to replace or compensate for it. Advice please.
  22. I was caught driving in my HGV not wearing a seat belt. Caught red handed and have no excuse. I received a summons to attend my local Justice of the Peace court with police statement attached. The statement is very inaccurate. Officer states he was sitting observing traffic when he noticed my driving without a belt. The officer actually passed me while I was stationary on a roundabout, he was driving round the roundabout and doubled back to pull me over. Whislt I do not contest the charge at the time, why can an officer make up the situation and put it in writing. If I was to obtain video evidence from his camera that he was driving and not sitting stationary observing traffic, and had to divert his course to pull me over........ Is it worth a challenge.
  23. Some questions: RLP do make reference to the infamous database of apprehended shoplifters (or attempted shoplifters) which they claim to pass on to employers. This is presumably a scare tactic to frighten those into paying the speculative invoice and thus removing their name from this database. Whilst I know due to the DPA the individual must grant authority for a third party to gain access I wanted to query whether this does in fact happen. I know that in certain professions when applying for a job or even to register with recruitment consultants they will ask/mention they will check your details against certain databases for any criminal/cival convictions, ongoing disputes, bankruptcy and a myriad of other situations. Often the prospective employee will have little choice but to grant access (otherwise arouse greater suspicion) or in some cases its implied in terms and conditions and condition is granted by way of exception. So - how possible is it that the RLP database could be accessed and would in fact harm the individuals prospects. My belief is that RLP are an immoral organisation and I am truly glad these forums exist to arm those caught up in their web with as much defence as possible. However it does need to be clear to the individuals any risks involved - great or small and for now or in their futures - to the "ignore or one-line-denial" approach. Second question - is an apprehended individual obliged to give their name and/or show ID to store security. What would happen if they refused - police called I'm sure - but would that increase risk of criminal proceedings from the store themselves (I doubt). But would the police be required to pass on ID to the store - or has the individual the right to ask the police not to tell the store - unless they formally request to press charges. Thank you all.
  24. Last saturday my car was towed away by sussex policeduring operation venice at crawley town football club. My car was parked on a concrete strip accomodating around 9 cars beyond a bus stop to the side of a dual carriage way. Either side of this concrete is grass verges. There were 9 cars on the concrete and around 40 on the grass verges . There is a no stopping sign on the verge or footway . No mention of towing . I understand the verge to mean the grass areas and the footway to mean the pavement which is another 4 meters away from the road and verges. There was an announcement that all cars parked on the GRASS verges would be towed away if not moved in the football ground. When i returned my car was removed the remaining cars on the concrete were there and all had yellow police park away notices with an officers name but no date or time None of these cars had been issued PCN The cars on the grass verges were still there and did not have the police yellow notices. I was told i would have to wait until the Tuesday and pay storgae on top to recover my car as the tow away firm were closed for taking payments. I went directly to the yard and refused to leave until i recovered my car . Eventually they relented i paid cash for the tow away fee of £150 and paid no PCN there was also no yellow police aware sign. In short my car was simply removed. I want to appeal i believe there should have been a penalty charge notice and some visual evidence from the authorities for the offence in order to follow procedures. I have spoken with the seargant who is unable to provide this. There will be no written paper work sent to me by the police. My question is how do i put my appeal in writing , i can see if it were the council what i should do but it is unclear given it is the police. Many Thanks
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