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    • An update to this case as I’ve not been on in a while.    I am still awaiting a charging decision in the case. The two police officers involved have said their personal belief is a section 47 ABH charge is the most likely outcome but this isn’t a sure thing of course.    The EA certificate from the issuing court has now lapsed. The court have refused to recertify him until they’ve had a hearing in to the case, and the district judge has issued orders to surrender all evidence, footage, photos etc.    I have done so promptly.    the EA, not so much . Equita have claimed they cannot provide his bodycam footage as the camera he was wearing is the EA personal one not one of theirs.   the EA has claimed he has asked Equita and the police for the footage as he claims he doesn’t have it.    the police have confirmed they didn’t seize his camera and they don’t have it.    so they are basically pointing the finger at each other all the while failing to comply with the district judges order to provide all evidence they intend to rely on at the rescheduled hearing.    The district judge has stated the hearing for his certification will NOT be the hearing for my complaint as there is no charge as of yet, and just as to whether he should be recertified or not.    I’m not 100% on why that can’t be done at the time, but I’m not about to question a judge…..      
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    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
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What we specifically need is the extension granted to enable a FAST general election and referendum.

 

If the election gives johnson a majority to push through no deal - then so be it.

 

A referendum cannot be left to the mercies of Johnson in power - he has already allocated 10 of millions of public money to 'promote' brexit with no detail or explanation (seen the content-less advert)

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The Beeb's Phillip Sim tweeted this earlier about the case in Scotland.

 

'Back at the Court of Session for the latest Article 50 wranglings; petitioners want the court to use its “nobile officium” power to effectively sign the letter to EU asking for an extension if Boris Johnson refuses to. Expecting today to be brief, main arguments probably Thursday'

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Johnson will ultimately be toppled by his own party, he's too much of a liability.  He's only been in power 2 months and scandals are coming thick and fast.  Gove and Javid must be sharpening their knives right now.

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Looks like Johnson may be proposing a sort of no-mans land with customs posts/areas a few miles from the border, with a sort of neutral zone for those living on the border.

 

The neutral zone perhaps ending up like Dovers practice lorry parks.

 

 

Johnson perhaps thinks that all the folk along the border will make loads a money from installing parking meters on their farmland?

 

 

Can't see how those either side of the border would see that as acceptable ... except the DUP that is.

 

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He's lying, and knows what he is offering doesn't go anywhere near a deal.

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This is hilarious.  He's basically just called it something other than border patrols, told them it won't actually be on the imaginary line between the two countries, and is clearly hoping no one notices that these structures exist not on the border but somewhere else.  Is he planning on hiding them behind a hill.

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Yup, it's actually insulting people's intelligence.  Never mind though as long as he can blame everyone else for it being rejected.

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Will he be digging up roads and dumping massive concrete blocks across others  to channel the traffic to the customs posts then?

 

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Makes you wonder what his plans are for everyone in the no mans land.

 

Will they have to go through customs whichever way they go?

The Country of middle Ireland. Neither in the EU, or out of it, neither in the UK or out of it

 

The twilight zone.

 

Or will Johnson just evict everyone and buy the remnants of the Berlin wall and reassemble it?

Practice for the rebuilding of Hadrians wall perhaps?

 

 

Wish the yanks would just request his extradition for his US tax evasion and throw him in alcatraz

- nice little island for him to be messed up in.

 

It brings a smile to my face imagining some 350lb mass murderer saying, now wheres that new little blond with the irritating voice ....

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21 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Not personally I don't suppose. How long does he think it will take to organise all this? Far less time than he has - when is reality going to strike?

I know he says out on oct 31st

but I don't doubt he wants out with the transition where he can mess around for 2 years like the pompous Piers Morgan he is

 

EU would be mad to allow that - he will work hard to mess them up, and will lie and cheat and renege on all the agreements.

 

 

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6 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

 

I'm not fully ofay with the details surrounding the Benn act,

 

but heres what i believe is one of johnson plans

 

Send an official notification requesting an extension, which the EU are certain would result in a general election and/or new referendum - so would grant (for many reasons - but mostly NOT interfering in national democratic process despite what the extreme right wing might claim)

 

Then send some sort of official notice that we don't want it/reject it - which the EU will be bound by - unlike some 'note saying 'we don't want it' - which is unlikely to be actioned by the EU.

 

Would Johnson send the note then just say we are leaving anyway and that he refuses the extension ... absolutely

but does the Benn bill allow that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ex Supreme Court Justice Jonathon Sumption (he who represented the banks in the Supreme Court bank charges case and won) was asked about that scenario and he said that if Johnson did anything contrary to genuinely seeking and obtaining an extension after the letter is sent it would have the effect of invalidating the extension request letter and he would thus be in breach of the Benn Act.

 

The act doesn't just require him to seek an extension, he has to accept it if the EU agrees to it.

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This is the letter the Benn Act requires him to send.

 

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Dear Mr President,

The UK Parliament has passed the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 2) Act 2019. Its provisions now require Her Majesty’s Government to seek an extension of the period provided under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union, including as applied by Article 106a of the Euratom Treaty, currently due to expire at 11.00pm GMT on 31 October 2019, until 11.00pm GMT on 31 January 2020.

I am writing therefore to inform the European Council that the United Kingdom is seeking a further extension to the period provided under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union, including as applied by Article 106a of the Euratom Treaty. The United Kingdom proposes that this period should end at 11.00pm GMT on 31 January 2020. If the parties are able to ratify before this date, the Government proposes that the period should be terminated early.

Yours sincerely,

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

 

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About 18months ago I posted on CAG information in relation to a European Army

(a lot of it relevant to what is now proposed by Brussels) which was then ridiculed, by the same people

who post on this forum now as a load of rubbish, however it has now been stated by the EU, that

this is something that they wish achieve, so not so much rubbish after all.

 

 

I spent 28years in the military and I can tell I would under no circumstances wish to have served under

the command of Brussels, I would also suggest that serving members would also take that attitude today.

 

 

I am posting a link which I find extremally worrying, you should also be worried if this comes to pass.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/hero-brexit-lord-james-blackheath-threatened-over-eu-defence-union

 

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10 minutes ago, Jase1982 said:

I'm more interested in why anyone is fearful of an EU army?  Surely European countries already contribute as part of NATO.  What's wrong with being involved militaristically with other nations, rather than outside.

 

There is nothing wrong with collaboration between nations, but that's not good enough for the EU, they want full control and the HQ to be in Brussels.

We will have to pay them £millions each year and have no say in what our armed forces can and can't do.

Germany refuses to help in the Gulf, so they would without doubt not let our Navy help in safety patrols there either, they will be in charge.

 

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6 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

 

There is nothing wrong with collaboration between nations, but that's not good enough for the EU, they want full control and the HQ to be in Brussels.

We will have to pay them £millions each year and have no say in what our armed forces can and can't do.

Germany refuses to help in the Gulf, so they would without doubt not let our Navy help in safety patrols there either, they will be in charge.

 

 

Well clearly that's not true.  We're one of the most influential nations in the EU and we're in a collaborative union, so I dont know where this notion comes from that we're being told, or forced to do something.  The giveaway is in the title European UNION.... union has nothing to do with the fascist ideals you're talking about... it was set up to halt fascism.

 

Also, if Germany can apparently refuse to do something, why do you believe we are unable to do the same?

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"Government have entered into private agreements with the European Community that they will, on completion of remain or whatever it is to be, transfer to the European Union in Brussels the entire control of our entire fighting forces, including all their equipment"

 

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8 minutes ago, Jase1982 said:

 

Also, if Germany can apparently refuse to do something, why do you believe we are unable to do the same?

 

You haven't learnt anything have you.  Germany runs the EU, Germany IS the EU, what Germany says goes

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43 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

"Government have entered into private agreements with the European Community that they will, on completion of remain or whatever it is to be, transfer to the European Union in Brussels the entire control of our entire fighting forces, including all their equipment"

 

 

Absolute garbage

 

You'll be telling us that apophis the goald built the pyramids next

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