Me and Various Benefits

[Jamberson]

For POSSIBLE proceedings. It won't happen - there's not been any crime of any sort.

[green_and_mean]

For POSSIBLE proceedings. It won't happen - there's not been any crime of any sort.

 

Technically there has been a crime commited although with mitigating circumstances, it is a criminal offence to use a stolen badge.

[lamma]

stolen ? ?

[Jamberson]

It was apparently reported stolen (post 1), presumably by the holder. The OP didn't steal it though.

[green_and_mean]

It was apparently reported stolen (post 1), presumably by the holder. The OP didn't steal it though.

 

That is down to the Court to decide, on the face of it person A has badge go missing badge is later seen being used to park by person B who has declined to make a statement. We only have the OPs version of events something which the Council are not aware of, if the case came across my desk I would treat it as an offence and let the Court decide. Finding something in the street and failing to return it is still theft obviously returning it goes in their favour but the Court would have to decide if they hadn't been caught using it would they have returned it, the OP says yes and we have no reason to doubt that but we are not the prosecution or the magistrate. If it goes to Court they can state the facts and show it was just a pure coincidence that the person finding the badge also kept a badge in a rather unusual pink holder rather than the usual blue ones and this led to the confusion they will probably find them not guilty.

[confusedbunny]

Hi caggers, apologies for not replying back, i thought you had all abandoned the post as i did not get an email alert like usual.....anyway, here is an update:

 

My friend did not attend with a solicitor but myself ( as support) and her daughter..

 

...the investigator has stated the history of this badge was that it had been missing for one year,

 

the badge was reported missing by the owner and then a copy of the badge was passed around several family members for use (it was never stolen)

and then the council proscecuted the badge owners uncle for having a copy of it displayed in his vehicle about 8 months after it was reported "stolen",

 

he also stated that the owner has been proscecuted for fraud with wrongly reporting it stolen and is banned from having a replacement.....

 

the investigator insinuated to my friend that he believes that she is covering for her daughter

and in fact it was her daughter driving the car and displaying the badge and that the daughter is the girlfriend of the uncle????

(he said this becuase they live with 2 miles of each other too)

 

This is 100% untrue and he quoted the uncles full name but my friend has not even heard of this person!!

 

The investigator has asked my friend to produce her car insurance to cover her to drive her daughters car on this particular day

(my friend faxed the document to him on friday), as my friend says he can get mobile phone records etc,

her or her daughter do not even know this named person he is referring too......

 

The conclusion to the interview was,

he is consulting with the councils solicitors once he recieves the insurance and documents to prove that my friends car has been off the road for months,

hence the reason she was driving her daughters car on this day......

[confusedbunny]

I finally had my medical last week, this time ,its seemed different, last one, the doctor was just constantly looking at computer screen and everytime i spoke he pressed a button, this time, it was a nurse and she seemed very sympathetic, and concerned with me and not the computer so see how it goes....

[RaeUK]

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/atos_prioritisation/new

 

Presuming I'm reading that request right, ATOS didn't answer the question at all ...

[antone]

Presuming I'm reading that request right, ATOS didn't answer the question at all ...

 

The request was poorly phrased, and technically the DWP did answer the question that was asked. They didn't answer the question that was intended, though, and it's at least possible that the responder knew this.

[debt4get]

I finally had my medical last week, this time ,its seemed different, last one, the doctor was just constantly looking at computer screen and everytime i spoke he pressed a button, this time, it was a nurse and she seemed very sympathetic, and concerned with me and not the computer so see how it goes....

yep I had one like that nice to my face..but shafted me behind my back....she was sympathetic...concerned..but still gave me 0 points......beware the wolf in sheep's clothing

[confusedbunny]

sorry, i am confused, i never wrote any letter, a fellow cagger put a link up, i didnt use the template to write to DWP ....

[confusedbunny]

yep I had one like that nice to my face..but shafted me behind my back....she was sympathetic...concerned..but still gave me 0 points......beware the wolf in sheep's clothing

 

Yes, i agree.....

[debt4get]

I can remember leaving there thinking. that wasnt too bad at all....I am going to get the points needed no problem....rang the wife...and said ' I think I've passed this, but we will have to wait and see'......like a little lamb to the slaughter...

[confusedbunny]

I can remember leaving there thinking. that wasnt too bad at all....I am going to get the points needed no problem....rang the wife...and said ' I think I've passed this, but we will have to wait and see'......like a little lamb to the slaughter...

 

oh dear!!

[starman59]

I have had the same I filled an atos form months ago and have heard nothing.

The first one I went to said my condition would get better in 6 months this was a male nurse, (I have osteoarthritis and rhumatoid arthritis) but I am expecting to be sumoned soon as I have told ESA my condition has deteroiated.

[RaeUK]

... They didn't answer the question that was intended ...

 

Quite so ...

 

sorry, i am confused, i never wrote any letter, a fellow cagger put a link up, i didnt use the template to write to DWP ....

 

Don't worry, I believe it was the link we were referring to not anything we might have thought you wrote ...

 

yep I had one like that nice to my face..but shafted me behind my back ...

 

Yep, had one just like that. A male Doctor. He must have taken the Hypocritic oath ...

[worried33]

That FOI has already been resent via a solicitor 2nd time round, he is doing it free of charge. The 2nd request is stronger worded and has reminded them of their legal obligations.

 

Also another question has been asked about regional variances and a 3rd one about recorders used by ATOS although he told me he expects them to say commercial confidentiality on anything ATOS.

[confusedbunny]

An update.....I have been placed in the "support group" to my relief,does anyone know how long i stay in this for? and will i need to be sent for a medical re-assessment mid-term? (the letter doesnt tell me any of this)

[reallymadwoman]

An update.....I have been placed in the "support group" to my relief,does anyone know how long i stay in this for?

It depends what ATOS say

and will i need to be sent for a medical re-assessment mid-term? (the letter doesnt tell me any of this)

 

If you ask for a copy of the report it will say on there how long the assessor thinks it should be before you have another assessment.

[confusedbunny]

I see, thank you, i will call them tomorrow and request a copy.

[Nystagmite]

If you ask for a copy of the report it will say on there how long the assessor thinks it should be before you have another assessment.

 

Don't DWP have the final say in this?

[rocker60]

Not everyone who fills in the form will be called in for the WCA. I was called into the jobcentre and told about the WCA long before i got the form to fill in. was told i would not be called for the WCA cause i was to disabled and the jobcentre had a report they did on me from their own assement which lasted 6 weeks at one of their centres. I had to stay there for the 6 weeks and they said no way can i work. But i got called in for the ATOS WCA anyway and they said i was fit for work and stopped my benefits. After several weeks of ringing the jobcentre to try and claim JSA and being told im not fit to work they decided they will help me by giving me JSA till i can get ESA again lol. They have changed the rules on how long u have to wait till u can claim ESA again. It was 6 months from the date they 1st told u u failed. But they got fed up with ppl claiming again as soon as the appeal was over. So now its 6 months from the appeal decision. They changed it a few weeks ago or so i was told by several independant benefit advosors like CAB, 2 saints, sark, and daines.

[Sparks_]

I filled in my medical form for ESA and didn't get called for a medical, when I contacted them they said I had been put in the support group indefinatley, also the DWP hadn't contacted me at all when they knew this! I was kept on the assessment rate of benefit weeks after I was put in the support group, they eventually paid my back benefits when I contacted them! they also said it was very unusual for anyone to get ESA without a medical!

[Slatted]

Well done you then! Shame about the delay in payment but at least alls well that ends well for once!

[confusedbunny]

I called them yesturday, I have been placed in the support group for the "maximum" time of 2 years and got my back money with 72 hours and getting my letter....the bizarre thing is, when i was on ESA a year ago, i submitted endless documents (medical) to support my claim when i went for the atos assessment and failed!!...this time, i had no faith and didnt submit a single document and i have less illness's than my previous claim and got placed in the support group now, how bizarre!!!!