Paid CTAX direct to coucil - Equita bailiff want 'fees'

[sash knighton]

Hi Caggers

 

Just need a bit of advice,

 

 

I defaulted on a repayment plan with a bailiff July 2014,

 

 

they recently sent me a letter saying that there was an outstanding amount of £163.86 that I needed to pay straight away

or a bailiff was coming to my house at the weekend.

 

 

I phoned the council and paid them directly and wiped the debt.

 

 

When I called the bailiff to tell them that I have paid the balance of in full

the lad on the phone said that I have made things worse for myself as I had to pay Equita not the council

and that they would not stop the bailiff coming round.

 

 

Since the call I emailed Equita with proof of payment.

 

If a bailiff came to my property at the weekend,

 

 

can he charge me their extortionate rate still even thou I have paid and informed them?

TIA

[GrumpyToSayTheLeast]

What is the debt for?

 

As a general rule, yes,

 

 

he will continue to enforce for his fees

 

 

and that may incur further costs,

 

 

but we need a little bit more info.

 

 

You are better contacting him and paying whats owed now to stop a further attendance imho.

 

Have you read somewhere about paying direct to stop enforcement?

[sash knighton]

Its for council tax.

 

There is no more debt to pay,

 

I have paid it all off in full to the council.

 

There was no fees to pay.

 

I don't know the bailiffs name as the letter was sent from their office and signed 'Bailiff enforcement'

 

I payed the council direct because it was them who I owed not Equita.

 

I have proof of payment e.g receipt and bank statement which I have emailed to their office

[dx100uk]

the old dodge of paying the council does not work anymore!

 

 

if you've had the first letter that's £75 you owe the bailiff.

 

 

UNLESS the original payment plan existed before april 2014.

 

 

dx

[renegadeimp]

Sounds like fotl advice to me. You should NEVER follow that advice for a debt. Ever.

[dx100uk]

sash is old school here

prob doesn't realise the rules changed.

 

 

dx

[GrumpyToSayTheLeast]

In which case, i would prob pay the £75 and move on Sash as it will just increase by £235

if the EA calls out to your address.

 

 

What is the date you must pay by on the notice of enforcement?

[ploddertom]

Is this anything to do with it http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?411127-Equita-Bailiffs-amp-old-CTAX-debt.

[sash knighton]

The old dodge, what are you on about,

you might be site team,

 

i was mearly asking for advice, and you start saying im old school,

 

all my other posts that i have put on here in the past where you have popped up on,

i havnt followed any of your advice,

and guess what this is the only out standing debt i have. and why?

because i got the right advice of the right people.

 

so you can stick your site and advice right up your corn hole.

 

you clearly are on the side of the system

 

the old dodge of paying the council does not work anymore!

 

if you've had the first letter that's £75 you owe the bailiff.

 

UNLESS the original payment plan existed before april 2014.

 

dx

[i hate bailiffs]

The old way of dealing with council tax bailiffs was to pay the council direct

 

That dodge does not work anymore ie cutting out the bailiff does not work

Things have changed

[CrappoMan]

According to the first post, a repayment plan with the bailiff was already in place,

so any fees (at least the first £75) should already have been included in the total amount outstanding

which was communicated to the OP in the recent letter.

 

If the amount in the letter was paid quickly, it shouldn't matter who it was paid to.

If paid to the council, any fees due would be forwarded to the bailiff in due course,

if paid to the bailiff, the fees would be deducted and the excess forwarded to the council.

 

If the bailiff company told you that £163.86 was outstanding, then it is entirely reasonable to expect that £163.86

and ONLY £163.86 was outstanding, not that amount plus fees.

 

I would contact the council and find out how much is outstanding on the LO,

from that figure and from how much you have paid in total,

you can work out how much you have paid the bailiff in fees.

 

Don't wait, do this first thing tomorrow morning.

[sash knighton]

i wasnt cutting anyone out

 

the letter they sent me clearly states that there is an outstanding balence that is owed to the council and needs to be paid,

 

i paid it to the council.

it does not say who i have to pay it to only who i owe it to.

 

and as for the abuse,

dx does my head in as i was only looking for advice

not 1 part was i tried to be old school.

 

how do i close my account on here

....... has got better advice and higher success

[renegadeimp]

FOTL follower.

 

 

I rest my case.

 

 

Sash, you might not want to hear this but the law was changed last year.

 

 

Regardless of who you pay now,

 

 

the debt is split between the two companies.

 

 

Council and bailiffs.

 

 

So if you try to ignore the bailiffs after they have added their fees, it wont work.

 

 

You still have to pay those fees.

 

 

*****, i admit, have success in some areas. But not this.

 

 

They are still under the impression that the law didnt change and they can do what they like.

 

 

They cant, and it has ended up making a lot of people worse off.

[i hate bailiffs]

i wasnt cutting anyone out the letter they sent me clearly states that there is an outstanding balence that is owed to the council and needs to be payed, so i payed it to the council. it does not say who i have to pay it to only who i owe it to.

and as for the abuse, dx does my head in as i was only looking for advice not 1 part was i tried to be old school.

how do i close my account on here

..... has got better advice and higher success

 

See ya close the door on the way out

[CrappoMan]

I'm all up for FMOTL'bashing, but when did this become a case of trying to avoid bailiff fees ?

 

A letter was received and the specified amount was paid. So how can their now be bailiff fees outstanding, if a visit has not taken place ?

[renegadeimp]

The bailiffs probably charged for the 75 letter. So they could chase for that.

[GrumpyToSayTheLeast]

The £75 compliance fee has been incurred at the point of sending the notice of enforcement out.

 

 

Therefore there are now bailiff fees outstanding.

 

He paid the council what he owed minus the fee is my guess

 

 

and now he is having a hissy fit

 

 

now that he knows it has to be paid.

 

 

And as normal,

 

 

aggression comes out when they realise they are wrong.

[CrappoMan]

How many times can they charge the £75 fee ?

 

Bear in mind that the OP was already in a payment plan with the bailiff, so the original (pre payment plan) letter from the bailiff would have triggered the £75 fee.

 

If they were charging £75 for this latest letter, it would be included in the £163.86 the letter says was owed.

[josephbloggs]

OP probably never had a letter in the first place, just wanted some free advertising for their beloved group and a bash at cag.

He/She is probably now off worshipping a shrine of wesley ahmed, or sending a letter to jay brad in prison

 

For Anyone who wants a quick read of an excellent description of fmotl, type in "rational wiki freemen on the land" on a search engine, and have a read of the article. (Especially the freemen successes part!)

[dx100uk]

and there was me trying to be diplomatic

having already read the OP's previous thread and thinking they were 'old school'

as the last CTAX threads were prior to april 2014, and the new rules

not they were a fotl twaddle follower.....

 

 

we live and learn.

[sash knighton]

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

[GrumpyToSayTheLeast]

Typical fmotl final death throws of an argument. When in doubt, just shout the same thing over and over.

[hhh_88873]

Freeman of the land and the pathetic ideas of Reginald Austin and Wesley Ahmed just show how pathetic and delusional these people are. Take a look at the fact that one of the numpties has been banged up for 18 weeks cos he thought he didn't have to obey any rules of society like the rest of us. Don't drop the soap jay brad. Muppet. Fact is you take advice from the delusional idiots who are 'freemen' or anyone on the beat the bailiffs group then you deserve whatever happens to you. Man up and sort your situation out and don't try and avoid a circumstance you've created yourself by trying to ignore it and thinking it's gonna go away

[mikeymack2002]

Brutal thread wow

[colin11]

this thread is taking a major kicking on BTBATB facebook page