Ban on smoking in cars by October 2015

[Michael Browne]

Smoking in cars carrying children is set to become illegal in England late next year in the biggest crackdown on lighting up since the ban on smoking in public places in 2007.

 

On Wednesday the government will lay the regulations in parliament needed to pave the way for the new restriction on smoking, which is likely to come into force on 1 October 2015.

 

The measure will criminalise smoking by parents, carers or other adults in a car carrying anyone under 18.

 

Enforcement officers would be able to issue a £50 fixed penalty notice both for smoking in the vehicle and failure to prevent smoking in the vehicle.

 

If the case goes to court, the maximum fine will soar to £800 for someone caught smoking in a car carrying a child and £10,000 for a driver who fails to prevent someone else smoking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827571/Ban-smoking-cars-passed-law-weeks-come-force-October-2015.html

[BankFodder]

Not before time.

 

I hope that they ban smoking in queues next - and bus shelters

[Guest]

why wait that long? ban it everywhere!

[dpick]

While I agree that you should not smoke in a car with a child in it I have a vague memory that when the law concerning wearing of seat belts came in it had to be amended from fining the driver if someone was not wearing a seat belt in the car you were driving to fining the person who should have worn the seat belt after a case concerning a chauffer who was fined when his passenger was not wearing a seat belt and would have been sacked if he had insisted on the passenger wearing one.

 

 

 

 

dpick

[Crapstone]

Smoking with a child in the car is wrong but is it really in the realm of politicians to decide? Everything is wrong according to them, including breastfeeding. Where is the vote?

[Crapstone]

dpick.. Perhaps your reasoning is right. If I'm driving and someone else lights up I'd ask them to stop and if they refuse would that be an excuse for stopping on the M6 and kicking someone out? The government can't police what they have so introducing more legislation is just like trying to ice a cake you can't reach.

 

 

Will they ban, 'fat people' from KFC? Will they ban people from aisles of cleaning products that are obsessive cleaners?

 

We are being dictated to. It's not the role of government to do this.

[Crapstone]

I hope they ban bus shelters too.

[*RainbowTears*]

dpick.. Perhaps your reasoning is right. If I'm driving and someone else lights up I'd ask them to stop and if they refuse would that be an excuse for stopping on the M6 and kicking someone out? The government can't police what they have so introducing more legislation is just like trying to ice a cake you can't reach.

 

Will they ban, 'fat people' from KFC? Will they ban people from aisles of cleaning products that are obsessive cleaners?

 

We are being dictated to. It's not the role of government to do this.

 

 

Totally agree with you!

 

The Police are stretched so thin these days, that when you ring to report a crime/or in need of them, unless it's a dire emergency you have to wait hours & even days for them to come see you!(That's even if they turn up at all!)

 

Yet they are now also expected to watch out for & to fine those who smoke in a vehicle with kids in?

 

So yes while in theory it sounds good, I feel it's going to be a bit of a nightmare to police.

 

I also feel it's just another money making scheme our Government has come up with under the guise of what's best for the under 18s!!

 

George Orwell got it "oh so right" back then, when he wrote his books Animal Farm & 1984.

 

As Big Brother most defiantly is watching us esp with the amount of CCTV & Cameras everywhere & now we face being ruled by a Dictatorship!

 

Who decide what we can/can't do!

 

Where does it all end?

[rebel11]

Guys, they have technology in place, the US has satellites that can read 'The Readers Digest' cover to cover from space. The government will use security cameras already installed to generate automatic fines. Infrastructure already in place. The result, millions in fines to councils.

[renegadeimp]

Its a brilliant idea and will safeguard many children's health.

 

However it is almost impossible to enforce.

[king12345]

I always though that it was already illegal to smoke in a car carrying a minor and at a bus shelter.

Silly me, let me get my kids in the car, park under a bus shelter and light a fag before it really becomes illegal

[renegadeimp]

Might sound silly, but if people smoke in an enclosed space with small children around that have no choice but to be there and suffer, then child abuse comes to mind.

[Charline Caisse]

why wait that long? ban it everywhere!

 

For good.

[king12345]

why wait that long? ban it everywhere!

 

Why don't we ban everything listed on the daily mail cancer list?

No wait, then we wouldn't eat anything or do anything

[colin11]

So if they did ban it everywhere, where would the 9.5 billion pounds smokers contribute to the economy come from, would you be happy to pay your share ?

[Nystagmite]

It is supposedly illegal to smoke in bus shelters and there are signs up. Doesn't stop people though.

 

How exactly is this going to be enforced?

[snotgobbler123]

Aside from the WHO report outlining that children of smokers were 17% less likely to contract smoking related disease in later life due to their immune systems being exposed to and becoming 'aware' of the toxins, who are the government to tell anyone what they can and can't do on private property so long as it harms no-one?

Ridiculous law from a desperate government.

So, after selling Dartford bridge/tunnel to bring cash in they are attempting to crimilise as many as possible in an effort to raise funds?

 

How much does that stink of desperation?

[renegadeimp]

Nobodies stopping others quietly killing themselves by smoking. What needs to stop is letting smokers smoke around children or non smokers and stopping the NHS dealing with smoking related illness's and diseases.

[snotgobbler123]

Nobodies stopping others quietly killing themselves by smoking. What needs to stop is letting smokers smoke around children or non smokers and stopping the NHS dealing with smoking related illness's and diseases.

 

...and as such, making them 17% MORE likely to contract smoking related diseases in later life...according to WHO.

[Moonstick]

How about the NHS dealing with overweight people? I know lets fine overweight people caught in a takeaway car park or queue!

[renegadeimp]

People can get overweight for a myriad of reasons. Not just by eating food. Smokers cause their own problems by inhaling many drugs, and then boast about it.

[Conniff]

Its a brilliant idea and will safeguard many children's health.

 

However it is almost impossible to enforce.

 

It is supposedly illegal to smoke in bus shelters and there are signs up. Doesn't stop people though.

 

How exactly is this going to be enforced?

 

 

They manage to catch a lot on the phone.

[citizenB]

Stop pussyfooting around.. make smoking anything a criminal offence.. oh, and by the way, whilst we are at it.. criminalise anyone found drinking alcohol... That will stop the run on organ kidneys, livers and hearts from alcohol abuse !