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    • I have read through a number of similar threads, but one thing i'm not sure how to proceed about is that I live abroad in the middle east and have done for several years. The claim letter was sent to my parents address and I really don't want them to be harassed about this. I am sure I sent the original creditor a registered letter with my change of address but can't find this currently. I am not in a position to pay this, and tend to come back to the UK to see family at most once a year (less since Covid), so not particular bothered about my financial score...more concerned about harassment of my parents. I have not registered on the gov gateway or anything like that.  Details below (as best as i can), and thank you for taking the time to look into it. Also redacted claim form attached: Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre (Northampton) If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS) Name of the Claimant ? PRA Group (UK) Limited   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 23/5/24   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM Tues, 11/6/24 (19 days)  Thurs, 25/6/24 (33 days)   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The Claimant claims the sum of £7926 for an outstanding debt owed. On 20/4/18 the Defendent entered into an agreement with Lloyds Bank for a Credit Card under reference [16 numbers]. On 10/5/22 the Defendant defaulted on the agreement with an outstanding balance of £7296. On 28/11/23 the debt of £7296 was assigned to PRA Group (UK) Limited, who itself assigned the debt to PRA Group UK Portfolios Ltd on 30/12/23. Notices of assignment were sent to the Defendant in accordance with S136 Law of Property Act 1925. The Claimant has instructed PRA Group (UK) to act on its behalf and the CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. The sum of £7925   What is the total value of the claim? £8481 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Yes   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? I believe I sent a letter by registered mail of a change in address to abroad in 2021. Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt purchaser   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not personally - probably sent to my parents   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not personally - probably sent to my parents   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not personally - probably sent to my parents Why did you cease payments? Unable to afford, living abroad   What was the date of your last payment? Unsure (probably 2021)   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No     Claim form 23-5-24.pdf
    • While we wait for someone to explain how farage is any better than sunak  .. if not worse   One of many likely upcoming belly laughs   Reform chairman Richard Tice has accused the Tories of (reform like) “dirty tricks” after one of his party’s candidates withdrew his papers to stand at the last minute and endorsed former cabinet minister Sir Gavin Williamson. In a dramatic final 24 hours before nominations closed there had been fevered speculation that as many as six Tory MPs and other candidates could defect to Reform after Nigel Farage decided to stand in Clacton and become leader. But instead no Tories switched and Tom Wellings, the Reform candidate for the new seat of Stone, Great Wryly and Penkridge in Staffordshire, quit and put out a statement endorsing Sir Gavin.   Who does he think he is an Anderson, a Carswell !!! was heard at the reform HQ pub ... as Candidate brushed aside by Farage in clacton to run as an independent    Tice accuses Tories of ‘dirty tricks’ to persuade Reform candidates to stand down WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Exclusive: A furious row has broken out after a Reform candidate’s last minute defection to the Tories   :ROFL  
    • See what you think of the attached. I have to do some proofreading of an English grammar book for an Italian publisher this weekend - for money! - so I'm afraid corrections and suggestions will come in dribs & drabs.  I've totally knackered the layout, the numbering and the order of your Exhibits but there will be several versions done so don't worry about that ATM. Your arguments are superb. What is less superb is the way you jump from one to the other and back again, so I haven't changed your words, but I have moved the paragraphs around and given each section a heading. New bits are shown in red. Crossed out crossed out in black is something you've quoted from the government Code of Practice, but that has since been withdrawn so unfortunately that argument has to go. Your paras 7 & 8 don't harm your case but to me are waffle and can go.  Keeping the arguments clear & concise will always impress a judge. IMPORTANT - did you ever send Simple Simon a CPR request?   Defendant's WS - version 2.pdf
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WELL DONE HP - What brilliant news!!

I am really really chuffed for you :D:D

 

Big hugs

Love SG x

Please note I am not legally qualified, I am offering advice based on my own personal experience in the hope that it may be of help to others in a similar situation.

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Congratulations, great news indeed.

Advice offered by ENRON is without prejudice and is for your judgement as to whether to take it. You should seek the assistance or hire of a solicitor or other paid professional if in doubt.

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Fantastic news. I'm delighted for you.:D

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Wow, HalifaxP, have just seen this thread and am gobsmacked at your treatment. My husband had to give up work 5 years ago due to a bad health problem which will, eventually, be the end of him (when? Who knows? I nearly lost him Christmas 2006, spent Christmas Day and Boxing Day with him on a ventilator, then another 9 days in Intensive Care with a tracheostomy). Several weeks ago I caught a virus which put him in hospital for 6 days (general ward only, mercifully). Recently he's been reasonable but since when he's reasonable he can do basic things, he's not deemed bad enought to qualify for disability etc. With just my salary, his incapacity, mortgage and everything else the last years have been a struggle. But YOUR situation is SO much worse than ours. What a wonderful result for you. Please now just concentrate on making the most of your time together.

Thinking of you

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Thanks everyone.

 

I've been advised to contact the credit ref agencies. How do I do this? I havent had a copy of my files in AGES...how do I do that and should I? I am drafting a letter to send BLair, Oliver & Scott to ask them to remove any adverse credit.

 

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just bumping this up for you.

 

I think you will probably need to write to all 3 of the CRAs, Experian, Call Credit and Equifax. I believe you can order them online but it might be better to send the £2.00 postal order (or cheque signed by someone else) and ask for it by post.

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You'll need to get a hold of your CRA file to check which entries are on there, then you'll need to raise a query with the CRA to have it brought up with the creditor, who will say if it can be removed or not.

 

The easier way to do this is to get something in writing from them stating it will all be removed, then send this to the CRA to remove the entries. I still think they will want you to get your up to date file, as they tend to force people down that route to open a query with them - albeit that increases their profits, I bet.

 

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Congratulations!!

 

*big hugs*

 

Im so glad that common sense has prevailed - it should have never even got to this stage. Keep those letters safe and take care of yourself!

 

Mrs R xx

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Thanks everyone!

 

I decided to send 2 letters (one for each debt) off to Blair, Oliver, Scott who wrote off the debt on behalf of Halifax (same company I know:rolleyes:) stating that I would like all adverse credit removed from my credit files within 21 days. I sent via Recorded delivery and have the cut off date in my diary for January 2009.

 

Another thing. I have just gone onto my online banking with Halifax and they still showing that I owe all this money on there under them accounts:confused:....what should I do? I have sent an email to them but I dont think they will deal with this online and have stated the outcome and that I have been treated very badly by Halifax and bullying DCA's.

 

Is there a letter I can send to request them to remove this as they have no written it off?

 

Sorry to be a nuisance.

 

HPx

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Send a notice pursuant to s.10 of the DPA telling them to cease processing your personal data.

 

If they fail to comply, go after them with a claim for damages and all money paid by you, over and above the capital borrowed, under s.14 DPA.

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I think you'd need to write to them again, HP and make it clear that you will only agree to their terms if they include another one regarding removing the CRA data shared.

 

On the other hand, you may feel it's too much to push on with this, so I can see why you'd just put this behind you and move on with your life.

 

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Just spent 2 hours reading through your thread HP.. Well done! Really pleased to see the end result! :)

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HFC Bank - Davey vs HFC

Barclays - Monthly payments made

Cahoot - Agreement received, awaiting 2nd agreement after DCA.

MBNA1&2 - Agreements received. (Currently in limbo)

Halifax - Davey vs Halifax/Cabot

MINT - Davey vs Mint

Amex - Davey vs Amex

Cap1 **WON** £1,500 Written Off Davey vs Cap1

 

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Not really sure how I missed this thread until now.

 

Excellent result though. It should be made a sticky in the legal success section. It's an inspiration to read and proves the DCA's can be beaten. :D

 

Well done HP and also all the CAG members who always provide excellent advice on this forum.

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I'm not sure how i missed it either! But glad i found it!

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HFC Bank - Davey vs HFC

Barclays - Monthly payments made

Cahoot - Agreement received, awaiting 2nd agreement after DCA.

MBNA1&2 - Agreements received. (Currently in limbo)

Halifax - Davey vs Halifax/Cabot

MINT - Davey vs Mint

Amex - Davey vs Amex

Cap1 **WON** £1,500 Written Off Davey vs Cap1

 

Never Sign Anything

 

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I too totally missed this thread. It's took me over nearly 2 hours to read through it and I was in tears by the end.

 

I agree - this should be made a sticky! A huge thanks to all the Caggers who stuck with HP through this. Your help and advice was amazing :D

 

Congratulations HP. Hugs to you and your family (((())))

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Despite this being much later than everyone else, I'd just like to say that everyone who helped HP deserves a medal.

 

HP, you yourself deserve to be recognised as a saint for the patience you showed in dealing with all of this.

 

I realise why I lost track of this particular thread, I can remember reading parts of it some time ago. It was in a different part of the site that I didn't normally go into, I'm trying my best to keep up with one area and would blow a fuse if I tried to follow much more.

 

Thankfully, it's been highlighted in another thread and I was able to spend a couple of hours here, going through it all from start to finish.

 

It goes to show that you have to be really persistant to get a result, and that the companies like HBOS/BOS are not fulfulling their duty in showing sympathy, let alone doing a proper job, until they are really forced into a corner.

 

About halfway through this case, had it been me, I would have demanded to be taken before the courts, so they could see what effect the matter was having on me and to endorse the information previously given to these morons. I'm sure several CAGgers would have come along to support the case and would have welcomed the media.

 

But, my main reason for dropping this note into the thread was to highlight yet another baddie - in my opinion. It would appear that the local MP did not see fit to even respond to HP, let alone take up the case. I can only hope they lose their seat next time they rely on the support of local people!

 

I'm also very pleased to see that the local CAB went out of their way to sort this matter out, and it seems their final letter was actually read by someone at BOS.

 

HP, it's clear that you deserve both peace and respect and I would hope that HBOS did offer some kind of compensation in the end. At the very least they could have refunded your costs in having to write to them, and the DCA's, so many times. All you wanted was peace of mind, and they hassled you beyond what I would have considered to be reasonable.

 

It's a pity that more cases like this are not reported in the press, but at least the story is here on CAG to give inspiration to anyone else who may be in such an unfortunate position. It also goes to show that there are people here who really care and will offer as much help as they can. Well done, again, to everyone involved!

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