10 years with Neighbours from Hell on Benefits...damage my property, council/police never helped

[citizenB]

I guess all you can do is inform the Local Authority and the Police.

[gaznolan]

Are you really asking what you should do about a neighbour storing and selling STOLEN metal ..... There is a special group of people that might be able to help you, they are called the Police .... you can sometimes get hold of them by calling 101 from your phone or if it is a genuine emergency then you can use their other number 999 ..... I read the posts on here but some of them do really make me wonder...

[Purpleflowers 2]

The metal is stolen without any doubt it comes on a daily basis through a field behind the home men just dump it in the back garden. they have vdus, hoovers, bikes....the full works

 

How do you know it is stolen?

 

I would suggest you call the police but it's better if you can state definitely that you know it is stolen.

[Purpleflowers 2]

what good can they do this has gone on for close to 6 months...the poor elderly lady that lived next door is in a nursin home the shock it was her own neighbours that this did ruined her health the poor lady.

 

Are you really asking what you should do about a neighbour storing and selling STOLEN metal ..... There is a special group of people that might be able to help you, they are called the Police .... you can sometimes get hold of them by calling 101 from your phone or if it is a genuine emergency then you can use their other number 999 ..... I read the posts on here but some of them do really make me wonder...

[Desperate Daniella]

But how do you know they are not going round picking up stuff in the street? Where I live there are trucks which drive around all day looking for scrap metal which people have put out at the front of their house. If you want to get rid of an old cooker, hoover, anything like that and you stick it outside your property it will disappear in a day. The Council charges £15 to remove it so you really hope one of these guys will come along.

[Purpleflowers 2]

they are picking up metal from peoples gardens without their persmission (which is theft) as well as their friends breaking into gardens and homes for metal when the houses are empty.

 

nobody else would do this day in and day out

 

But how do you know they are not going round picking up stuff in the street? Where I live there are trucks which drive around all day looking for scrap metal which people have put out at the front of their house. If you want to get rid of an old cooker, hoover, anything like that and you stick it outside your property it will disappear in a day. The Council charges £15 to remove it so you really hope one of these guys will come along.

[gaznolan]

so again you are asking what the POLICE can do to help you with an issue of stolen items ....

[Purpleflowers 2]

Nothing its still going other residents reported it but hey no action at all from the plod

 

so again you are asking what the POLICE can do to help you with an issue of stolen items ....

[Desperate Daniella]

Then you must phone the police first thing tomorrow morning and report them.

[Desperate Daniella]

Insist on speaking to a senior officer.

[Purpleflowers 2]

will do i hope they listen this time

 

Insist on speaking to a senior officer.

[Desperate Daniella]

Let us know how you get on.

[dx100uk]

your local councils environmental dept/agency

might also be interested

 

anyone dealing in the items you mention

must hold the relevant licences to store & process them

 

dx

[Desperate Daniella]

That is a really good idea.

[Purpleflowers 2]

good idea!

 

I believe it is not legal to run this kind of buisness on his premesis. He would need a special licence, and more appropriate premesis, such as a yard on an industrial area, bought or rented, or a workshop.

 

 

The landlord is aware his tenants are removing materials from skips in the area without the owners consent is also classed as theft.

 

The tenants are making money selling the scrap metal which is fraud if they are signing on,

 

 

 

your local councils environmental dept/agency

might also be interested

 

anyone dealing in the items you mention

must hold the relevant licences to store & process them

 

dx

[dx100uk]

sometime previous

 

a neighbour down south had a family of 'ex' gypsies move into the other half of her semi.

 

from the off, it was rather a bad thing for her.

their and her front garden [rear had no road access

became a junk yard

with all manner of stuff

coming all day and night.

 

police etc etc did not want to know.

 

he had a fridge for sale by way of a 'advert card' on the local tescos wall.

 

I went around there , and had a good nose under the pretence of wanting it.

 

we spotted container after container of red diesel

and even joked we were rather short to get home ourselves....could they help if we brought the fridge.

round the rear was a new metal shed...10 by 13

 

it was FULL of 25 gal container, I quickly counted over 70!!

 

as I was ofcourse constanly on my mobile I got lots of photos

 

next day a quick call/email of photos to the council and the local fire station

had them gone & all the rubbish within 72hrs.

 

they sold up and moved out within 3 weeks.

 

neighbours son brought the other half of the semi

 

and she now lives in a very big house!!

 

dx

[steampowered]

Report it to the police and the local authority, and then don't worry about it.

 

But remember it is not your job to be responsible for other people's crimes. If other people's stuff gets stolen it is their responsibility to report it to the police, and the police's responsibility to investigate, and the police's responsibility to act but only if there is clear evidence of criminal activity. You shouldn't try to take on responsibility for any of this.

[Purpleflowers 2]

This family has brought sheer hell to the neighbourhood and needs to be take to account the metal dealing is the last straw. If I remain silent then tommorow it can be any house in the area, its needs to be nipped in the bud now.

 

lots and lots of men visit the NFH house she always open the door with a robe every single time, she could be selling sex perhaps and making from that as well?

 

 

Report it to the police and the local authority, and then don't worry about it.

 

But remember it is not your job to be responsible for other people's crimes. If other people's stuff gets stolen it is their responsibility to report it to the police, and the police's responsibility to investigate, and the police's responsibility to act but only if there is clear evidence of criminal activity. You shouldn't try to take on responsibility for any of this.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Purpleflowers 2

[havinastella]

My Mrs wears a robe sometimes to open the door. I hope she's not a prostitute!!

[Desperate Daniella]

This family has brought sheer hell to the neighbourhood and needs to be take to account the metal dealing is the last straw. If I remain silent then tommorow it can be any house in the area, its needs to be nipped in the bud now.

 

lots and lots of men visit the NFH house she always open the door with a robe every single time, she could be selling sex perhaps and making from that as well?

 

Exactly! And the only way to nip it in the bud is to insist on speaking to a senior police officer. Do not be fobbed off.

[ericsbrother]

report to the police, laws were introduced to place the burden of proof of legal ownership on the possessor of the scrap. If they dont have a waste transfer licence and no receipts they are stuffed.

[Purpleflowers 2]

UPDATE!!!

 

This is what I have found out re: NFH

 

The house they are tenants in was sold last month at auction to a new private landlord.

 

Now this is where it gets interesting...

 

The auction house were able to provide me with details of the legal firm that dealt with the sale of the house at the auction which the private landlord used to facilitate the sale. I have details of the new landlord and the tenancy agreement the (previous landlord made with the NFH before the house went on sale).

 

Before the house went on sale at auction the previous landlord who was good friends with the NFH extended the tenancy agreement by 12 months (before placing the house on auction, thus giving the NFH a full 12 months tenancy).

 

I have seen that tenancy agreement and there are 2 specific clauses which the NFH have broken

 

1. prohibits cutting down of trees. (NFH have been cutting trees in their garden which have fallen and caused damage to other properties)

2. the tenants must not cause anti social behaviour or become a nuisance to others in the area. (They are NFH everyone in the area is fed up with them. Police come in and out of the house)

I then contacted the legal firm that dealt with the sale asking if their client owned the property and if she did to inform her the NFH have broke terms of the tenancy....they legal firm told me

 

".......I cannot confirm whether or not I did or did not act for the owner of this property I am unable to assist you further.

 

Re: tenancy agreement, I cannot comment on a document I had not had sight of blah blah blah..."

 

So the legal firm was saying 'we did not deal with the sale....blah blah blah"

 

Then today

 

I get an email from supposedly the new landlord saying the legal firm (who denied involvment in the sale of the NFH house) has told him to contact me....re: her tenants.

 

So basically the legal firm told me porkies...then goes and tells their client (the new landlord)...who then sends me a email.

 

As you say do not speak on the telephone....have everything in writing so I will get a letter sent to him instead of emails

 

How can I pressure the landlord to get rid of the NFH - i'm not sure if he is or is not aware that his tenants are NFH. He bought the house happy knowing it had tenants already in place...

 

What steps can i take to pressure the landlord to get the NFH out

Edited January 12, 2014 by Purpleflowers 2
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[steampowered]

The legal firm did not tell you porkies at all. They are legally required to refuse to comment. Whether or not they acted for a particular client and information about the tenancy agreement is client confidential information protected by the rules of professional conduct applicable to lawyers. If they told you anything without their client's consent they could be disciplined by the regulator.

 

Whether the NFH are in breach of their tenancy agreement is probably not your business. It is worth telling the landlord what is going on - though to be honest he probably already knows and probably got the property at a discount for that reason. I am sure he wants the tenants out as much as you.

[Purpleflowers 2]

How do I explain to the landlord what is going on at his property without making it sound like a 100 page essay. Can you help

 

The legal firm did not tell you porkies at all. They are legally required to refuse to comment. Whether or not they acted for a particular client and information about the tenancy agreement is client confidential information protected by the rules of professional conduct applicable to lawyers. If they told you anything without their client's consent they could be disciplined by the regulator.

 

Whether the NFH are in breach of their tenancy agreement is probably not your business. It is worth telling the landlord what is going on - though to be honest he probably already knows and probably got the property at a discount for that reason. I am sure he wants the tenants out as much as you.

[steampowered]

How do I explain to the landlord what is going on at his property without making it sound like a 100 page essay. Can you help

 

Sure. The secret to good writing is planning a clear structure and making sure you don't repeat yourself.

 

If it was me, I would keep it quite casual and polite as you need to get the landlord on your side. Something like this:

 

'Hi,

Thank you for the email. I'm sorry to go through the solicitors as I had no other way to contact you.

 

You may be aware of this already, but I just wanted to let you know about some of the very serious problems being caused by the current tenants of the property.

 

[concisely list the main issues. Use short paragraphs no longer than three sentences.]

 

I hope that you are keen as the rest of the residents to resolve this issue, given that it affects the value of all your property and ours! I can confirm that the behaviour is still ongoing. If you wish to have them evicted I confirm that I would be willing to support this and act as a witness to the anti-social behaviour that is taking place.

 

Kind regards

layla_83'