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Hello,

 

I am looking for some advice please.

 

I have a standing order weekly to Fedex Europe paying off some outstanding import tax,

however today I have received a Notice of Enforcement asking for £958

- includes a number of charges!

 

I can happily print off the invoices for these payments and get these off to them,

but I need to know what I can do re the letter?

 

I have emailed them today asking for confirmation of whether any payments have been added to this account.

 

I have until 31st March to get this sorted.

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks

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Notice of Enforcement (NoE) usually implies a CCJ.

If you don't have a CCJ against you can you post up a copy of the NoE (with personal info / any barcodes redacted).

 

If you have a CCJ against you :

a) on what payment terms, if any

b) why did you breach those terms (if any)

c) what charges have been added?

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Hi

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

There is a CCJ yes,

no payment arragement was made or agreed,

FedEx are a nightmare

 

when they started sending me letters

I replied,

they didn't want to know,

they were really unprofessional and unhelpful and just kept saying its too late we are sending this to Court.

 

They wanted a full payment made,

I told them at the time that I was unemployed and couldn't afford the full amount, she didn't listen.

I carried on paying weekly via standing order and still continue to do so,

 

I will pull up these payments off my bank statement on Monday when I get into work and get these posted off to the HCE

- I have already emailed both the HCE and Control Account asking for copy invoices of what is outstanding.

 

The charges that have been added to the NoE are £2.78 interest and £90 Compliance stage fee.

 

I have until 31st March to agree a payment arrangement.

 

Thanks

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The following presumes this was a personal rather than business debt.

 

Firstly, if a bailiff comes a-calling don't let them in.

If you have (eg a car) goods outside they might seize, move them away so they can't be seen / found to be seized.

 

If this was a business debt, as it has been transferred up to the High Court, HCEO's do have the right to enter business premises.

 

As a matter of urgency apply for a variation to the CCJ

 

http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/n245-eng.pdf

 

and obtain the court's instructions on the payment you should make, and stick to that payment.

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OK thanks

 

its a personal address - a house so that's fine.

 

I will pull up that link and get that completed.

 

I am happy to pay it as I do owe the debt but I "assumed" the weekly standing was sufficient and I have been paying that like clockwork so will be providing this evidence as well.

 

Thanks

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shame you didnt contest the claimform.

 

 

I bet this is for import taxes?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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OK thanks

 

its a personal address - a house so that's fine.

 

I will pull up that link and get that completed.

 

I am happy to pay it as I do owe the debt but I "assumed" the weekly standing was sufficient and I have been paying that like clockwork so will be providing this evidence as well.

 

Thanks

 

Are you considering paying the full amount on the notice? If so, you must make sure that this is paid in cleared funds by the date given on the notice. This is because, as this is a High Court debt, if you wish to make a payment proposal then the enforcement officer MUST visit you to set up the agreement. This is only applicable to high court writs of control.

 

If the visit is made, the debt increases by a further £190 plus vat (£235). There are further additional charges (£495) that can follow almost immediately.

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Hi,

 

Just to give this thread an update.

 

I wrote to the HCE and also FedEx and Control Account enclosing my bank statements showing the standing order payments that I have made.

 

HCE have come back to me saying that I have been making payments against another CCJ now I am completely confused!

 

I have asked for copies of these invoices but have only received 4 invoices from Control Account which total around £100 (one of which I have provided evidence that this has been paid).

 

I have been paying via standing order money that no one can seem to provide evidence of it being paid against any invoices.

 

I have not received any copy invoices from HCE and have yet to hear back from FedEx or Control Account when I questioned these four invoices.

 

As you state above "Bailiff Advice", it does say in the letter that no payment agreement can be agreed upon until they visit my house.

Why do they need to do this?

Surely if I am making goodwill into paying the debt and not hiding away from it then I am showing willing?

 

I have also contested the balance owed as I do not believe this to be a true amount.

Again, nothing back from FedEx as of yet.

 

I am going to put together a reply this evening and get this posted off Recorded and emailed to HCE as I really want to get this sorted out asap and find out where these payments have been going.

 

I have never received a breakdown of these charges totalling the £950 so I am feeling really confused and upset as to what is going on.

 

If anyone can help or point me in the right direction as to what course of action to take, I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks

 

shame you didnt contest the claimform.

 

I bet this is for import taxes?

 

dx

 

What do you mean?

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exactly what I said..

 

they took you to court and got a CCJ on bogus import taxes

 

you should have defended the claimform..

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I never received a claim form that was the problem.

They kept sending me letters and trying to call me but I never took the calls.

 

Next thing I know I had Courts putting notes through my door and the guy said he would sort it as we texted and then I get his from the HCE.

 

I am trying to sort it out but as I have said above, no one has bothered to send me copy invoices when this is what I have asked HCE, FedEx and Control Account.

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so you've moved since the order was placed and the CCJ date

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes

if you did not receive the claimform then its one step toward a set aside.

the other is a credible defence against whatever you were taken to court for..

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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pm advise is not allowed

 

whats going on please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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That's not a course of action that is really recommended.

 

You will be better off PMing a member of the Site Team

- andyorch or honeybee13 for example

- with an outline of what you need & why,

they know those who are more knowledgeable about this type of thing.

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Ok thanks... I will write here and if some urgent help could be advised, I would really really appreciate it.

 

To cut a long story short, I have found out today that the balance owed is incorrect, FedEx have told me that the last payment made to them was June 2015, there is no record of the weekly standing order payments that have been made to them against any of the invoices.

 

I have managed to obtain copy invoices emailed across to me today and they total approx. £700. With the £269 paid off of them and the balance is approximately £430. Therefore in my eyes should never have been passed to the HCE as it was below £600.

 

Yesterday I received a letter from HCE saying that I had to make future payments to them

and they enclosed their bank details and that the money was now owed

and that they wouldn't consider a payment arrangement without the visit to my house to discuss and enforce.

 

I replied to this last night via email and was going to send a hard copy via RD post today.

I am disputing the amount owed because of the payments that have not been allocated across.

 

I have written (Recorded letters) to both FedEx and Control Account attaching copy bank statements showing these weekly payments that are being made.

 

Today I have written another letter to be sent via RD (also emailed to HCE, FedEx and Control Account) stating that they have confirmed that these payments have not been allocated to my account and that the sum owed is around £400 and to get this sorted asap.

 

I received a voicemail from the HCE this morning and rang him as soon as I left work to update him as to the situation and what was said in my recent letter.

 

he never answered the phone so I left a voice mail.

This was at approximately 5.20pm this evening.

 

I got home from work to find that he had hand delivered a letter through my door

the cost has increased to £1873 and this has made me feel physically sick and scared.

 

I am on edge jumping every time a car goes past the house

for fear that they are going to knock on the door.

 

I have until 13th April 2016 to pay up or they will break into my house

with the help of a locksmith and seize my goods.

 

I really need some advice, please help

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Yes it's a private house.

 

It's also rented so I don't even own the property.

 

Can someone please advise on what to do, in at my wits end and I'm

Sat in my house in darkness for fear that they will knock on the door!!

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The difficulty you have is the original CCJ and it is this that all the figures they have are based upon. For now nothing will stop HCE enforcing against you unless you apply for a Stay of Execution against the Writ.

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its a CCJ being enforced by HCEO

they cant force entry to your home

nor use a locksmith

 

does the letter ACTUALLY say that

because if it does, then they need to be reported.

 

did you ring the court and confirm claimform/CCJ address served too?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The letter states:

 

Removal of Assets will now take place with or without your presence

and where necessary an application will be made to the Court under Paragraph 15, Schedule 12,

Tribunals Courts and Enforcements Act 2007 for Authority to enter your premises with the aid of a locksmith.

Where applicable, any additional court costs and attendance fees will be added to the amount due under the Writ.

 

I haven't made contact with the Court

I have tried and tried to obtain copies of the invoices which I have managed to resolve today

have been told by FedEx customer services that the monies I have been paying for the last 18 months have not been allocated to the account

so I have no idea where they have been going!!

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there you go 'where applicable'

its not applicable

to an HCEO chasing a CCJ payment/debt

 

you really should have phoned the court and got the info.

 

nothing you can do till Monday now.

either

1.Stay of Execution /or set aside

but you'll need a defence for that too

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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