New bedroom tax

[jadeybags]

Thankyou worried33, I really do find it all maddening. They talk in riddles and lies and seem to just get away with it.

 

Re the housing, I am 56yrs old and live in a one bed flat, I exchanged last year from my three bed house, with a couple who lived here with one child and another on the way. For them it was the only way to get a house before the second child was born and better than a long wait. I was happy as I didn't want to be in that house after my family had moved to their own homes. The flats where I am are mostly O.A.P.'s, although there is no age restriction as the previous couple were in their 20's. They seem to favour these though for elderly due to being ground floor. My daughter and her son lived with me until he was 5, she wasn't allowed a one bedroom property and had to wait until a two became vacant, and she had to bid on the home option website too, and the state the place was in had to be seen to be believed. It looked like a drug den/ghetto. The council had already put in a new kitchen and bathroom, and painted some areas, but what was left was just dreadful, she still lived with me for another month while we all went in and decorated with her and scrambled money together to carpet the bedrooms, and get a big rug for the lounge. There were locks on all the doors on the outside ...very strange. sorry I rambled.

 

I would be the same as you tbh, once my 2 have left home & are settled I do quite fancy living in a flat again, me & the kids dad did that until the oldest was 16 months old. Then we privately rented a 2 bed house.

But round here all the housing association bungalows are age 50+ not sure about flats though, I guess I will be over that by the time the teens have left home though.

[Guest]

jadeybags am glad I did it, its a nice size and cosy, and I have a small easy to manage garden, and with all the benefit changes am even more glad I did it, or would have had 2 spare bedrooms.

[jadeybags]

jadeybags am glad I did it, its a nice size and cosy, and I have a small easy to manage garden, and with all the benefit changes am even more glad I did it, or would have had 2 spare bedrooms.

 

Someone was looking out for you hun!

[estellyn]

because we not broke, if we were really broke there would be no tax cuts and no exceptions on austerity, the truth is its ideoligical.

 

What is bemusing is this graph on the bbc site.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21740450

 

I wonder how bbc get their data or do they just make it up. Because under austerity there has been actual tax cuts fo rthe richest yet they have apparently suffered the most, and I find it hard to believe all the social security cuts amount to only 5% affect on income. Council tax and housing benefit changes alone have affected me way above 5%.

 

Especially as I saw another graph (wish I could find it) showing that the changes are bringing a large increase in income for the richest - anyone with income over £500,000 a year has had a huge boost apparently - so yes, I wonder how they put together their 'statistics'.

 

EDIT: here it is, also from the bbc

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21672294#

 

not exactly the same thing, but still....

Edited March 19, 2013 by estellyn

[gingertrucker]

Exactly,there were a couple in my local newspaper a few weeks back who wanted to downsize because of bedroom tax but there were no smaller houses for them to move to!!

 

It's ridiculous and doing my health no good at all,I'm on strongest medication for my depression/anxiety and still having problems because of stuff like this,sometimes I'm too scared to come on these forums because of finding out what's next

 

This is what Torrie represent,they are all for the rich and want the working class in the gutter!! This Bedroom Tax is just another Poll Tax and hopefully will be the downfall of this shower. Tax is like a cancer which will soon be spreading to every area in our lives. When will the British public wake up and stand united and remove goverments that don't do the job they are supposed to do. Problem is in Britain its all about looking after number 1 sod everyone else ime alright jack!! Great Britain without the great!!

[RaeUK]

... Great Britain without the great!!

 

Whilst I entirely agree with your ethos, could I just point out that the 'great' in Great Britain actually just refers to the land size?

[antone]

Whilst I entirely agree with your ethos, could I just point out that the 'great' in Great Britain actually just refers to the land size?

 

Noooo! We were about to try and "Make Britain great again."

 

Anyhow, here's a

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[RaeUK]

Great clip, thank-you Antone. How did I ever miss that?

I don't mind the puns about putting the 'great' back into Great Britain but that's all they are. Puns. Our name came about to differentiate us from, for lack of a better phrase, the 'Little Britain' in northern France ...

[antone]

Great clip, thank-you Antone. How did I ever miss that?

I don't mind the puns about putting the 'great' back into Great Britain but that's all they are. Puns. Our name came about to differentiate us from, for lack of a better phrase, the 'Little Britain' in northern France ...

 

Were you a fan of The Day Today back in the 90s? That's where the clip came from.

 

But yeah, we're not Brittany. We're big! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

[phil76]

I can see this bedroom tax causing loads of problems people are going to get in arrears with rent and getting kicked out of houses ending up on the street!! Really hoping this bedroom tax is scapped

[Guest]

I am sure of one thing....whatever money this govt gets from this tax any other benefit cuts, as this "tax" is a benefit cut, then the money wont go into the NHS or anything for the good of anyone but the Tories and their rich friends. They have to go, please if there is any God above these tyrants have to go.

[dyfed]

I am quite tempted to move into a tent or caravan the way things are going and yes many people camp in the snow.

[phil76]

I am sure of one thing....whatever money this govt gets from this tax any other benefit cuts, as this "tax" is a benefit cut, then the money wont go into the NHS or anything for the good of anyone but the Tories and their rich friends. They have to go, please if there is any God above these tyrants have to go.

 

I agree Ruby_Tuesday hope there is a god up there and gets rid of the tyrants

 

I remember you telling me about the protests over poll tax and they scrapped it,how long did it take for the protests to start after poll tax was introduced?

[osdset]

I am quite tempted to move into a tent or caravan the way things are going and yes many people camp in the snow.

 

If everyone effected could move into residential caravan sites that would scupper the collection of a huge wedge of council tax.

[estellyn]

So let me get this straight. Money is being taken off of poor housing benefit claimants who are considered to have too big a home....and yet money is being given by the government so that well off people can buy a bigger home.

[id6052]

So let me get this straight. Money is being taken off of poor housing benefit claimants who are considered to have too big a home....and yet money is being given by the government so that well off people can buy a bigger home.

 

or a second home?????

 

so if you are one of the millionaires getting their your tax cut, all you need to do is sign current home over to your partner, child, parent, then the government will loan you £120k to buy a £600k house

[citizenB]

I find it quite amusing that Ed Balls is so in opposition to everything the Tories have planned - wasnt he and his partner, Yvette Cooper one of those who abused the PM expenses to such an extent, playing the system to maximise their "housing benefit".

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5325590/Ed-Balls-and-Yvette-Cooper-flipped-homes-three-times-MPs-expenses.html

[citizenB]

On top of which, they made double claims for expenses and also for Food ??

 

Officials also warned them that they had submitted the same claim, for the month

of July 2006, twice. During much of the period covered by the records seen by

The Daily Telegraph, Mr Balls and Miss Cooper submitted regular claims for

food, usually totalling up to £600 a month.

[estellyn]

or a second home?????

 

 

That too, though I expect they'll quickly close that avenue off due to the uproar. But we're still left with government money for rich people to 'upsize' while poor people are taxed for it being impossible to downsize their social housing.

[Consumer dude]

So let me get this straight. Money is being taken off of poor housing benefit claimants who are considered to have too big a home....and yet money is being given by the government so that well off people can buy a bigger home.

 

We really do live in confusing times..

[Guest]

why doesn't it surprise me...........

[dyfed]

I find it quite amusing that Ed Balls is so in opposition to everything the Tories have planned - wasnt he and his partner, Yvette Cooper one of those who abused the PM expenses to such an extent, playing the system to maximise their "housing benefit".

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5325590/Ed-Balls-and-Yvette-Cooper-flipped-homes-three-times-MPs-expenses.html

 

They all do it! Tory and labour. They are all flip flopping and even cam moron fraudueltly claimed expenses whilst sending peseants to prison for nicking a bottle of water.

So why attack a labour mp?

[citizenB]

They all do it! Tory and labour. They are all flip flopping and even cam moron fraudueltly claimed expenses whilst sending peseants to prison for nicking a bottle of water.

So why attack a labour mp?

 

 

I was simply pointing out that Ed Balls - a Labour MP - needs to stop throwing stones, when he, himself lives in a glass house !

[osdset]

To be fair all MP's are on the gravy train, the difference is that most Tories were born into a privileged lifestyle, but a lot of Labour MP's started off from humble backgrounds but soon found out how lucrative the power game is. At the end of the day they will all look after No 1 first, power unfortunately corrupts, the only Labour MP's with any backbone and integrity are Michael Meacher and Dennis Skinner the rest are Tory bootlickers.

I have purposely left out the LibDem's because in my opinion they don't even count as they sold their collective souls for a taste of power.

[Followme]

I was speaking with a legal expert friend of mine the other day, and with the government losing one of the bedroom tax court cases last week then they are going to have a hell of a job in defending the 10 cases coming up in May. It is obvious no one thought any of this through and the government should have announced in the budget it would be put on hold for a year until the court cases have finished.