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    • Afternoon all Looking for advice before I defend claim for car tax payment that the DVLA claim I owe £68 from an idemity claimback from my bank and unpaid tax  So brief outline. Purchased car Jan 30th ,garage paid the tax for me after I gave them my card details so first payment £68 out in Feb 24  followed by payment of £31 from March due to end Jan 24 Checked one of my vehicle apps and about 7-10 days later car showing as untaxed? No reason why but it looks like DVLA cancelled it ,this could be because I did not have the V5 and the gargae paid on my behalf but not sure did not receive a letter to say car was untaxed.  Fair enough I set up the tax again staight away in Feb 24  and first payment out Mar 31st , and each payment since has come out each month for £31 , this will end Feb/Mar 2025 so slightly longer than the original tax set up so all good. I then claimed the £68 back from my bank as an indemity refund as obviously I had paid but DVLA had cancelled therefore it was a payment for nothing?  Last week recieved a SJP form dated 29th May stating that DVLA were claiming for unpaid tax and a false indemity claimback which of course is the £68. It also stated that I had received two previous letters offering me the oppotunity to pay that £68 but as I had not responded it was now a court claim that I must admit guilt for or defend. My post is held for weeks at a time from Royal Mail ( keepsafe) due to me receiving hospital tretament at weeks at a time that said I did not receive any previous letters from DVLA. So I am happy to defend this and go to court but wondering what CAG members think? In summary I paid an initial amount of £68 and then a DD of £31 , tax cancelled so I set up a new DD at £31 a month all in the month of Feb 2024, I claimed the £68 back from my bank. DD has been coming out each month without issue and I have paperwork to show the breakdown for both DD setup's plus bank statements showing the payments coming out . The second DD set up has extended payments up to Feb/Mar 2025. DVLA claiming the £68 was ilegally claimed back despite the fact they cancelled the original DD for reasons unknown. Is this defendable ? I will post up documents including the original DD conformations 
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Hopefully there is a link below:

 

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/leaflets/wtc7.pdf

 

I have not stated that Foolmum WILL be charged this amount but they can & have charged it to others.

 

dont worry i know that this is possible.

thankyou for your support. i know its individual cases but it helps to know the outcome of other peoples experiences xxc good and bad xxxx

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It's best not to direct anyone to the 'worst case scenario' places albeit the intentions are well meant.OP is already at Def Com one so to speak,bless her.

So,,foolmum,,Dr has given you something to help,,make sure you take them regularly and that you keep your strength up by eating and drinking properly,sounds silly but you don't want to get ill on top of everything else do you?

You have been through so much,bless your heart,but you are still standing so you are stronger than you thought !! Like you said yourself,,baby steps,,tackle one thing at a time,and always pop on here if you need some moral support (and advice of course) :)

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I only know what I know cos I know it,I only give advice,I'm not legally trained nor do I pretend to be.

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hi , have you any idea how much you will have to pay back,,,, am glad you went to your gp.

Things will get easier, your story so similar to mine, i told no one at work but i found it easier that way.

Glad you are eating , chin up xxx

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Foolmum hasn't provided false information, she hasn't reported a change:

The 3k penalty is applied in the following cases:

 

"Giving the wrong information

If you've given the Tax Credit Office wrong information and you've been paid too much tax credits, they can charge you a penalty of up to £3,000.

The Tax Credit Office may charge a penalty if you gave wrong information:

deliberately - 'fraudulently' giving wrong information

because you didn't take enough care - 'negligently' giving wrong information

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thanks everyone i hope when this is over i will be able to help another me xxx thankyou from the bottom of my heart.xxx i have ti wait fir copies of bills to come through. but i will wait to see the advisor first on the 5 feb...dont want to make things worse as im not in the best place at the moment....i know its not going to be oh yes we believe you job so it will be after i send that off that i think i will be worse waiting for the post xxxx

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i know...ive never even stolen a sweet so this is hard a shaming .... im thinking the worse so anything after that is a bonus xxxxxx

must say the cab calmed me...just knowing as the man said the adviser will be able to speak the hmrc language. xxxx

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Scotgal68, I hope you are right but if HMRC deem you have been living as a couple (through lack of evidence) & should have made a joint claim they can/will treat that as 'not reporting a change'.

 

Foolmum, hopefully you won't get a fine & £3000 is the maximum they can charge - there is no guarantee that they will but like you say, it's better to know the worst consequences & anything less is a bonus.

 

Anyway, I hope it gets sorted in your favour - don't have the will to participate anymore, was trying to help by giving info re my experience but obviously others know better!

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thanks wsid i know....i am coming to terms with a fine.....we all have different experiences. but as you stated it is a big prob i will get fined.... please dont be put off every bit of help could not only help me but anyone else who reads this and is going through the same . xxxx many thanks foolmum

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so the fine is up to 3000 so lets hope . will the cba help me with payment plan for them.xxc

 

some good news iva for hubby might be lowered by about 80 per month....have to go to vote...at least we might be able to put a better offer...no equity in house so better news ......

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Just an update from me. I received a letter today to say that HMRC have completed their checks and I am being fined £2040 for deliberately not informing them of my circumstances. I dont know where I am going to find the money from. Pay plan who manage my IVA are helping me with the overpayment and the fine as i dont want my IVA to fail. I have been lucky really but i just want to sort this out now and move on.

 

Does anyone know if the penalty they are charging will show up on a crb check? there is no mention of prosecution and i was never interviewed under caution or anything.

 

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they r investigating 2011 to 12 .... as ive said ive no proof... even though i paid everything...so up the creak without a paddle as to say... i admittted husband came back aug.....but we r not a couple r trying..im just a crying mess but what can i do cant argue with them they could make things worse and i cant cope with that......

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