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    • Hello, I will try to outline everything clearly. I am a British citizen and I live in Luxembourg (I think this may be relevant for potential claims). I hired a car from Heathrow in March for a 3-day visit to family in the UK. I was "upgraded" to an EV (Polestar 2). I had a 250-mile journey to my family's address. Upon attempting to charge the vehicle, there was a red error message on the dashboard, saying "Charging error". I attempted to charge at roughly 10 different locations and got the same error message. Sometimes there was also an error message on the charging station screen. The Hertz 0800 assistance/breakdown number provided on the set of keys did not work with non-UK mobiles. I googled and found a bunch of other numbers, none of which were normal geographical ones, and none of which worked from my Luxembourg mobile. It was getting late and I was very short on charge. Also, there was no USB socket in the car, so my phone ran out of battery, so I was unable to look for further help online. It became clear that I would not reach my destination (rural Devon), so I had no choice but to find a roadside hotel in Exeter and then go to the nearest Hertz branch the following day on my remaining 10 miles of charge. Of course, as soon as the Hertz employee in Exeter plugged it into their own charger, the charging worked immediately. I have driven EVs before, I know how to charge them, and it definitely did not work at about 10 different chargers between London and Exeter. I took photos on each occasion. Luckily they had another vehicle available and transferred me onto it. It was an identical Polestar 2 to the original car. 2 minutes down the road, to test it, I went to a charger and it worked immediately. I also charged with zero issues at 2 other chargers before returning the vehicle. I think this shows that it was a charging fault with the first car and not my inability to do it properly. I wrote to Hertz, sending the hotel, dinner, breakfast and hotel parking receipt and asking for a refund of these expenses caused by the charging failure in the original car. They replied saying they "could not issue a refund" and they issued me with a voucher for 50 US dollars to use within the next year. Obviously I have no real proof that the charging didn't work. My guess is they will say that the photos don't prove that I was charging correctly, just that it shows an error message and a picture of a charger plugged into a car, without being able to see the detail. Could you advise whether I have a case to go further? I am not after a refund or compensation, I just want my £200 back that I had to spend on expenses. I think I have two possibilities (or maybe one - see below). It looks like the UK is still part of the European Consumer Centre scheme:  File a complaint with ECC Luxembourg | ECC-Net digital forms ECCWEBFORMS.EU   Would this be a good point to start from? Alternatively, the gov.uk money claims service. But the big caveat is you need a "postal address in the UK". In practice, do I have to have my primary residence in the UK, or can I use e.g. a family member's address, presumably just as an address for service, where they can forward me any relevant mail? Do they check that the claimant genuinely lives in the UK? "Postal address" is not the same as "Residence" - anyone can get a postal address in the UK without living there. But I don't want to cheat the system or have a claim denied because of it. TIA for any help!  
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    • IMG_2820-IMG_2820-merged.pdfmerged.pdf Case management was this morning. Here is the Sheriff’s order. Moved case forward to 24/05.   He said there was no signed agreement and after a bit of “erm, erm, yeah but, erm” when he asked them, he allowed time for sol to contact claimant.  what is the next step now? thank you UCM  
    • I've had a quick (well, quick for a thread of this length),  read of this thread and to be honest I'm struggling to make heads nor tails of the actual crux of the issue here. You seem awfully convinced that whatever is going on is worth the fight and the odds are in your favour but with how the thread has gone it seems that one trail goes cold so you simply move on to another in an attempt to delay the inevitable. All it does is end up digging holes and confusing others and yourself which means any advice given to you is completely pointless. I note that for the life of this thread there has not been any documentation or correspondence uploaded for people to have a look. Have you got any that you'd be willing to redact and upload for members to assist you? Right now, it seems people are shooting out advice while being in the dark because it's starting to become very difficult for people who weren't here at the start of this (including myself) to follow along. Right now, this whole thread is just hypothetical "He said, she said" and is going nowhere fast. Nothing more than basic advice can be given which, as you've sought out some legal advice, is likely not sufficient to actually come to any sort of conclusion. I, personally, am starting to agree with others that it may be best to consider bankruptcy and put the matter behind you.  
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Firstly, Hello and thanks in advance for any help i may get.

 

7 Months ago i bought a

 

 

 

PHILIPS HQ7340/17 Rotary Shaver

 

Product code: 074409

 

 

£79.99

 

 

 

from

 

Currys, Unit 1A, Stadium Retail Park, Wembley Park Drive

Wembley

HA9 8TS

 

it was a lovely day and i was on my motorbike so i went for a ride and got home around 9pm. When i opened the box it had a european plug attached and as i live in Wembley i couldnt use it...i went back the store and complained and they said sorry but wouldnt give me any reason why the item couldnt be used or why there was no clear indication on the advertising that you needed a secong european socket..

 

i wrote to Currys and Emailed and also phoned but to no avail, so i got on with my life, untill that is today....i got back from a little trip away and realised i'd left my razor

 

Off i went to Currys in Wembley and sure enough they had the razor, but it still didnt say anything about needing a extra plug.............SO

 

ME: hello i'd like to buy this

 

Currys: ok thats £79

 

ME:does it come with a british plug?

 

CURRYS: Yes

 

ME: Could you open it up and check

 

Currys: Erm , Erm, Yes why not

 

ALL OF US LOOK ON:

 

CURRYS: oh, no sorry, its a european plug

 

ME: what would have happened if i got home and couldnt use it?

 

CURRYS: yes, thats bad

 

ME: thats ok, ill take it if you give me a free european plug

 

CURRYS: we cant do that

 

ME: can you get your boss plese

 

.......................................................................

 

Scene 2 Act 2, the boss appears..............

 

ME: Hello, this razor will not work in the UK with the socket attached

 

CURRYS MANAGER : we can sell you a Socket.

 

ME: I'm sure you can, but idont want a socket, i want a razor with a british socket attached to the end so i can get a shave.

 

CURRYS MANAGER: then theres nothing we can do for you

 

ME: Do you know that these are no good unless you live in Europe?

 

CURRYS MANAGER: they are good if you buy a socket

 

ME: Ill have it for free

 

CURRYS MANAGER: well we are not going to do that and if theres nothing else i'm afraid i'm busy

 

ME:-x: did you know its got a foreign plug on it?

 

CURRYS MANAGER: yes

 

ME: it doesnt say on the box i need another socket

 

CURRYS MANAGER: it also doesnt say you dont need one

 

Touche Currys Nemesis ......Touche

 

...................................................................................................

 

Act 3 Scene three, the meetings of the minds

 

ME: are you really a manager

 

CURRYS MANAGER: yes

 

ME: and you know it wont work in my house?

 

CURRYS MANAGER: it will if you buy the socket

 

ME: Were on the box does it say i need a socket

 

CURRYS MANAGER: Touche Customer, Touche ( this didnt happen, it was in my mind)

 

CURRYS MANAGER: it doesent

 

ME: Thats clearly a misrepresentation

 

CURRYS MANAGER: why

 

ME: becuase A: i need a second plug to use the razor and B: it doesnt say so on the box

 

CURRYS MANAGER: it could look like that

 

 

ME: yes, yes it could

 

CURRYS MANAGER: can i help you with anything else

 

ME: yes, do you have the socket i need to use the razor that doesnt work unless i but it?

 

CURRYS MANAGER: yes

 

ME: could i see it?

 

Manager gets me the socket and i place it on top of the razor....

 

CURRYS MANAGER: would you like to buy it?

 

ME: No, i just wanted you to see how easy it was to put the second item next to the first item and with maybe a little note attached saying something like...........erm i dont know lets say............THIS ITEM WONT WORK WITHOUT THIS SECOND ITEM.

 

CURRYS MANAGER: I can see how looks

 

ME: really

 

 

anyway i take her name and her boss's name and explain i was in the same shop six months ago and was sold a razor that didnt work unless i bought a second universal socket

 

is it me people or are Currys breaking some law on false advertising

 

Many thanks

 

 

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Are you sure it's a europlug and not a shaver plug? They're also two pin and pretty common, but the clearance between the two pins is different. You can get an adapter to convert between the shaver plug and a normal UK mains socket very cheaply.

 

In fact I have never seen a shaver come with a normal UK plug...

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Yes, but all the recharge cables I have had on shavers have still come with shaver plugs not UK plugs.

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just get an adaptor

 

they all come that way as they are an EU CE product.

 

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I've never ever seen an electric shaver with a 3-pin plug on it, only ever a 2-pin.Remember when most houses were built with a 2-pin socket in the bathroom that said 'shaver' on the socket? For some reason you tend not to get those anymore though, I haven't seen one in a long long time....well...except in the bathrooms on plane's anyway.

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Even electric toothbrushes come with the two pinplug on, just buy the adapter for less than £1. I thought it was common knowledge.

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OK, to put this thread to rest.

"The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994" states in both "UK and Ireland requires that all domestic electrical goods sold in either country should be fitted with a BS 1363 or IS 401 (as applicable) plug" (those are standard 3 pin plugs) HOWEVER in the "EXCLUDED ELECTRICAL DEVICES" section it does have "Any non–rewirable or any moulded–on Europlug (that is to say any plug conforming with BS EN 50075) which is designed for the purpose of connecting to a shaver supply unit conforming to BS 3535: Part 1 any electrical shaver, toothbrush or similar appliance; and for the purposes of this paragraph the expression “shaver supply unit” shall have the meaning given to it in BS 3535: Part 1."

 

So, legally, they don't have to put a 3 pronged plug onto a shaver, but they do need to use a BS kite marked europlug.

 

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