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    • Thanks DX,   I wasn't aware we could do that for that length of time. I'll ask my wife to check with the bank this week
    • Yeah That's correct. We left rent payment coming out of his bank account from January 2023 - August 2023 until we could find somewhere to sort out his belongings which was fine. I tried to give notice a few times from August 2023 asking for advice from Sanctuary housing how we went about this explaining his condition and that he was in a Nursing home from December 2022. I explained we don't have any legal powers to his account like POT but were in the process of going for Deputyship and that I was the named person to act on his behalf to speak with Santuary housing. I said we could provide details of his condition and proof he was now in a nursing home with date he moved in. This went ignored despite repeated attempts to contact them until a housing manager contacted us end of February 2024 and notice was finally accepted with his tenancy coming to an end March 22 2024. Although they have continued to take rental payments for the flat despite someone else living in it from the 1st April. I wasn't aware payments were still being taken till I checked his May banks statements. I had asked them to back date rental payments to August 2023 when I gave notice rather than just giving notice in March 2024 but they've ignored that bit. I don't see why they shouldn't give it back they've taken money they shouldn't have.
    • go do a Direct Debit Guarantee Clawback to your bank if you've now got control of his bank account finny.
    • Hello, Just to check I understand things right, he moved to a nursing home, you then kept paying the rent for a period of time whilst you sorted his belongings. You have asked to give notice and asked for backdated payments of rent from when you first asked which went ignored? They are still taking rent payments.   Have I understood correct?   If I've got anything wrong please correct me.
    • I contacted Sanctury housing in August 2023 after informing them my father in law who had Dementia had moved into a Nursing home December 2022. We kept the flat for 8 months until such a time we could accomodate some of his furniture that my wife wanted to keep. I contacted them in August 2023 to let them know the situation by email as I was the named person that could speak on his behalf. I informed them that we had left it to late for POT and were seeing a solicitor for Deputyship of his financies. I asked them what information would they need in order to give notice on the flat and we could provide details of his condition and nursing home. This went ignored I left it a month and then called them October 2023. I was promised a call back from a manager over the next few days. This never happened and it was end of November when I contacted them again and they had no record of me calling them. I explained the email and again I was told the local manager to the area would call me. This never happened and I ended up emailing them in January 2024 with a copy of the email from August. Again this went ignored and I had explained to them that we couldn't just go to the bank and stop the DD as we had tried. This email again went ignored. I then had a letter written to our home address in February asking us to get in contact with them (local manager) as they were concerend nobody was living in the flat. He had an email address so I copied in the last 2 emails to say I had been trying to give notice since August 2023. I also stated that I would like the rent that was paid from August 2023 refunded back to his account as I had officially tried to give notice then and it went ignored. He replied to us about wanting to look at the flat then notice could be given once he had contacted the nursing home to confirm he was actually living there now. Notice was giving for the 22 March 2024 and this would be when rent would stop and no further payment would be taken by this point. The fact I asked to be back dated went ignored. I have since noticed on 2 banks statement for April and May that they are still taking Rent payments of £501 from his bank. Further to this which seems very strange. He was with Eon Next for his utility bill again we were having problems getting this stopped as they needed a named person on his account which there wasn't one despite me managing his online account for him. I didn't check the email address that often that I used to set it up and went to check as noticed the credit he had built up with not living there was all getting refunded in February. The email said £600 would be refunded to his account with a (sorry you are leaving us message) but how can he leave as nobody but himself had access to speak with them. I also noticed the lady in the flat above him had a letter from her bank sent to his address with his address details but his name which was dated 4th March well before we had given notice and it said (thank you for giving us your new address details) we have set all this up for your account.   So Sanctuary housing must have been aware he wasn't living there from the ignored emails for the lady above to start changing address details to move into his flat before the housing manager had even got in contact to ask if anyone was living there. What I basically want to know his do we have any legal standing to claim the rent back from when I first contacted them in August 2023? There is roughly £3000 to come back  
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It only adds to my Knowledge, so am quite grateful DCA's take the time to bluff and request help as I am learning all the time, so cheers your efforts only enhance that of CAG.:D

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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If they can waste our time, I'm sure we can waste theirs. Here's a suggestion :-

 

What about calling them to pay off substantial debts (how much commission do Lowell monkeys get from a £15'000 debt?)? Then, we 'forget' or 'cartoon-ify' vital information, like names, dates of birth, postcodes, etc, spanning the call out for as long as possible.

 

Most important points are never to give away any real information and make sure you can do this for free - Lowell are certainly worth having their time wasted, but not at any extra cost (not even a penny!) to a CAG member.

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I quite often do this anyway, the last one breached the DPA on no fewer than 4 occasions!

 

And when I'm really drunk, I'll often leave inaudable ramblings on on their answer phones....:D

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Well then, a salutory lesson for a Novice like me.

Well spotted early on "LTWFB" pity nobody could smell.

Just a shame for all the valuable time and effort you guys have put in, just teaches us a lesson to be economical with our own details and proves Cerbs point "Not everyone on here is a genuine cagger"

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Just a shame for all the valuable time and effort you guys have put in

 

It's not really though, as the others have said, it all helps to hone our collective knowledge. And I suspect that any future Lowells victims who google and find this thread would be more likely to be emboldened to fight rather than to pay up. So CAG has been the winner in this little exercise, at least that's the way I see it.

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Yes H&P your right, also help to hone our noses to future scams.

What a chuckle - and the clue was in the name all the time,lol

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It's really irritating when something like this happens but that, of course, is the point (assuming the troll isn't just an idiot). It's intended to put people off helping. It actually has the opposite effect on me. It simply refreshes my utter contempt for the debt collection industry and my wish to see them compelled to behave properly.

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I see that despite being asked several times beaCONsMAN never actually produced a copy of what was supposedly sent to him by the LEEDS LOSERS.

 

Still instead of showing people that its wrong to tackle this **** as was probably his intention he has apparently done the opposite by showing the lengths DCAs will go to to discredit CAG.

 

Thanks a lot beaCONsMAN

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This idiot may have had the motive of posting on the forum to prove 'there is evidence of an SD turning immediately into a charging order on a respected internet forum' Without the court details and the name of the judge this won't sit well with the powers that be.

 

Can I suggest that this thread be locked and blocked so it can't be accessed by anyone else... unless of course Beconsman himself shows up again.

 

I thought it was a bit on the suspect size as there was no posting of court details etc, which is usual on this type of case.

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- What this says to me, is that CAG members are proper human beings, prepared to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Which is way much better than DCA-life.

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Doubtless he & his playschool buddies are teeheeing in the classroom today at their little game.

 

This just goes to show the power of CAG that they feel it necessary to drum up such a scheme in order to try to refute the success of CAG.

 

They certainly live up to their reputation of being the Leeds Losers - so sad.

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What a let down :mad:

 

And I have only been following this thread and not contributing!!

 

If a troll - how sad their lives must be. Nothing sad about trying to help people who you genuinely think need help.

 

Can't believe I didn't spot the conman name thing - I thought my gullible days were over.:)

 

Hopefully he will come back and prove everybody wrong.

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Hopefully he will come back and prove everybody wrong.

 

Hopefully he will find himself on the receiving end of his own threatogrammes and be in real need of debt advice, as they say, what goes around comes around, and I hope to be here when he falls on hard times and wants assistance.

 

Poor sad lonely boy.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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RIGHT, LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT, I CAME HERE FOR ADVICE AND AFTER SEEING SOME OF THE OTHER POSTS BY BAZOOKA WHO CLAIMS I WORK FOR LEEDS LOSERS, THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, IT IS MY WIFES PROBLEM....I WORK IN THE EDCUATION SECTOR, ACTUALLY, IN PYHSICS....OK??

 

i am sorry, i get right peed off when people think i am takin the p""" I honeslty thought they wouldnt turn up on 29th dec, but they did...we had a 70 day period to get more evidence...now we are receiving more letters and they havent complied with the original cca...

 

my wife, oh she wants a voluntary charge and 50 quid a month, i have said, i want nothing more to do with it, she doesnt want the advice given on here and cannot convince her otherwise...

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Right, Also, I Am NoW GOINGTo Get InTouch With The Moderators.......

 

WHY WE ARENT FIGHTING, SIMPLE. THE DJ SAID SHE HAD SEEN 25 CASES ON MONDAY 28TH AND TUESDAY 29, OUT OF ALL THOSE, ONLY 3 WERE SET ASIDE, HER ADVICE WAS TO NEGOTIATE...AS WE WOULD LOSE.....EVIDENCE AGAINST MY WIFE FAR TOO MUCH, SHE WANTED MORE EVIDENCE FROM US THAT WE COULD PROVE AN UNENFOREABLE DEBT...

 

AS SHE POINTED OUT, IF THEY HANDT HAVE TURNED UP THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE..SHE ADVISED US TO SETTLE..

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