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    • Well we can't predict what the judge will believe. PE will say that they responded in the deadline and you will say they don't. Nobody can tell what a random DJ will decide. However if you go for an OOC settlement you should still be able to get some money
    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
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It only adds to my Knowledge, so am quite grateful DCA's take the time to bluff and request help as I am learning all the time, so cheers your efforts only enhance that of CAG.:D

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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If they can waste our time, I'm sure we can waste theirs. Here's a suggestion :-

 

What about calling them to pay off substantial debts (how much commission do Lowell monkeys get from a £15'000 debt?)? Then, we 'forget' or 'cartoon-ify' vital information, like names, dates of birth, postcodes, etc, spanning the call out for as long as possible.

 

Most important points are never to give away any real information and make sure you can do this for free - Lowell are certainly worth having their time wasted, but not at any extra cost (not even a penny!) to a CAG member.

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I quite often do this anyway, the last one breached the DPA on no fewer than 4 occasions!

 

And when I'm really drunk, I'll often leave inaudable ramblings on on their answer phones....:D

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Well then, a salutory lesson for a Novice like me.

Well spotted early on "LTWFB" pity nobody could smell.

Just a shame for all the valuable time and effort you guys have put in, just teaches us a lesson to be economical with our own details and proves Cerbs point "Not everyone on here is a genuine cagger"

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Just a shame for all the valuable time and effort you guys have put in

 

It's not really though, as the others have said, it all helps to hone our collective knowledge. And I suspect that any future Lowells victims who google and find this thread would be more likely to be emboldened to fight rather than to pay up. So CAG has been the winner in this little exercise, at least that's the way I see it.

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Yes H&P your right, also help to hone our noses to future scams.

What a chuckle - and the clue was in the name all the time,lol

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It's really irritating when something like this happens but that, of course, is the point (assuming the troll isn't just an idiot). It's intended to put people off helping. It actually has the opposite effect on me. It simply refreshes my utter contempt for the debt collection industry and my wish to see them compelled to behave properly.

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I see that despite being asked several times beaCONsMAN never actually produced a copy of what was supposedly sent to him by the LEEDS LOSERS.

 

Still instead of showing people that its wrong to tackle this **** as was probably his intention he has apparently done the opposite by showing the lengths DCAs will go to to discredit CAG.

 

Thanks a lot beaCONsMAN

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This idiot may have had the motive of posting on the forum to prove 'there is evidence of an SD turning immediately into a charging order on a respected internet forum' Without the court details and the name of the judge this won't sit well with the powers that be.

 

Can I suggest that this thread be locked and blocked so it can't be accessed by anyone else... unless of course Beconsman himself shows up again.

 

I thought it was a bit on the suspect size as there was no posting of court details etc, which is usual on this type of case.

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- What this says to me, is that CAG members are proper human beings, prepared to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Which is way much better than DCA-life.

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Doubtless he & his playschool buddies are teeheeing in the classroom today at their little game.

 

This just goes to show the power of CAG that they feel it necessary to drum up such a scheme in order to try to refute the success of CAG.

 

They certainly live up to their reputation of being the Leeds Losers - so sad.

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What a let down :mad:

 

And I have only been following this thread and not contributing!!

 

If a troll - how sad their lives must be. Nothing sad about trying to help people who you genuinely think need help.

 

Can't believe I didn't spot the conman name thing - I thought my gullible days were over.:)

 

Hopefully he will come back and prove everybody wrong.

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Hopefully he will come back and prove everybody wrong.

 

Hopefully he will find himself on the receiving end of his own threatogrammes and be in real need of debt advice, as they say, what goes around comes around, and I hope to be here when he falls on hard times and wants assistance.

 

Poor sad lonely boy.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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RIGHT, LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT, I CAME HERE FOR ADVICE AND AFTER SEEING SOME OF THE OTHER POSTS BY BAZOOKA WHO CLAIMS I WORK FOR LEEDS LOSERS, THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, IT IS MY WIFES PROBLEM....I WORK IN THE EDCUATION SECTOR, ACTUALLY, IN PYHSICS....OK??

 

i am sorry, i get right peed off when people think i am takin the p""" I honeslty thought they wouldnt turn up on 29th dec, but they did...we had a 70 day period to get more evidence...now we are receiving more letters and they havent complied with the original cca...

 

my wife, oh she wants a voluntary charge and 50 quid a month, i have said, i want nothing more to do with it, she doesnt want the advice given on here and cannot convince her otherwise...

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Right, Also, I Am NoW GOINGTo Get InTouch With The Moderators.......

 

WHY WE ARENT FIGHTING, SIMPLE. THE DJ SAID SHE HAD SEEN 25 CASES ON MONDAY 28TH AND TUESDAY 29, OUT OF ALL THOSE, ONLY 3 WERE SET ASIDE, HER ADVICE WAS TO NEGOTIATE...AS WE WOULD LOSE.....EVIDENCE AGAINST MY WIFE FAR TOO MUCH, SHE WANTED MORE EVIDENCE FROM US THAT WE COULD PROVE AN UNENFOREABLE DEBT...

 

AS SHE POINTED OUT, IF THEY HANDT HAVE TURNED UP THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE..SHE ADVISED US TO SETTLE..

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