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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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this crowd will turn up to a local court but probably not bother with a case if the defenant lived in Aberdeen for example.

AS Parking are the same, they pitch up and tell outrageous lies in manchester but wont travel further afield but that doesnt stop them issuing claims and hoping to play the odds.

 

as said repeatedly, they win 85% of the cases because the defendant doesnt bother, either just pays up or ignores and so gets a default judgement. They dont win even 5% of the claims that are defended properly ( not some pensioner saying it isnt fair, that is not a defence) and thus have to take a commercial decision on whether to keep pushing their luck.

 

If your local court was Aberdeen then they would either have to spend about £100 on train fare plus hotel just to lose or pay a local solicitor to turn up and thus lose £50-100 in costs so that is why most of them bottle out, risk v reward. If they just dropped claims they knew were iffy they would never issue a ticket in the first place but they go through the charade to try and encourage others to pay up or the word will get around that there is no need to take any notice of them.

 

After the Beavis decision  the number of court cases quadrupled becasue they no longer automatically lost every claim where schedule of loss was mentioned. Barry Beavis would likely have won if he had used planning permission as an argument. ironic as the final decision actually changed the law rather than clarified it and the judges DARED parliament to challenge them!

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I live in Northampton and the Claimant are here too. If they represent themselves as they did the last time they had a case for this same location dismissed there will be no train fares. If they decide to use Gladstones Solicitors, and NPM stated they don't, but I know they have done in the past, they quote on their website the cost is £25 to 70 plus VAT. Don't know if that includes the return train fare from Cheshire.

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we know where you live and we know where they are which is why i say they will self represent as they save themselves £100 in costs when they lose.

gladstones dotn turn up ever, they just hire a local gun for hire and them brief them badly about a day before the hearing.

 

All your last post shows is that you havent read enought about all of this yet so stuff your mind full of other cases.  and makse sure that you are now prining off anything you find that is remotely usable.

 

Go into court and ask about the previous hearings, claim number ( you have date from report) and so forth.

 

You can then bother the original defendant to see what EXACTLY their case was about, even small differences in the claim wording may make a difference and ask them what the judge actually said in summing up

 

.  They may not have a great recollection but the gist of it is better than nothing.

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I have a large folder on my PC, backed up of course, with loads of information, including advice received on this forum and know everything about the case they lost.

 

It was only only a couple of months ago so all still fresh in everyones memory, but all documented in this case takes a long to get to court

 

. My knowledge is growing by the day so the longer it takes the better. If I had done my IAS appeal with what I know now, I might have even won that! 

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no-one has ever won an IAS appeal without the matter being published in a national newspaper beforehand and the IPC/IAS "invited" to comment publicly in print.

 

other cases are very important,

judges love precedent as it means when they make a decision it is less ikely to be challenged.

there are compelling and persuasive cases,

most of the court reports at County Court are persuasive but on rare occasions someone challenges them.

 

Read all about Brodrick v Gale and Ainslie Ltd, Swindon CC to see what happens when someone thinks they dont like presuasive cases and want to appeal.

 

your job is to use places like the Parking Prankster's blog to dig up as many of those cases and you use the reports as you find them in the blog rather than just saying mine is the same as Parksharks v Smith because no judge will have read that case and it is YOUR evidence you you have to show the content.

 

now transcripts are available for some notable cases but just the screen shot of the pranksters blog is evidential enough as long as it identifies the case, where it was and the general precis of how the decision was reached.

His court reports are usually written up by lay reps who have years of experience ( retired solicitors for example)

 

you can never have to much evidence, just keep the WS tidy so it can be read and the rest of the stuff referred to easily.

In court you will soon find yourself answering things in a completely different order to how it is written down so you need to be able to find the reference quickly

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Thanks.

This issue was reported in a local newspaper,

 

never got to a national one,

nothing changed afterwards,

until November 2018,

 

the Tesco landlord/site developer had one too many complaints and had to take action.

At the moment to IPC are doing a lot of tweeting saying how wonderful they are and how they are raising the bar.

 

A family member has been critically responding to some of their tweets and they didn't like this, so they have now blocked him!

One relevant tweet to this case, but he was blocked before he could comment it.

 

This read 

"Since its formation in 2012 the IPC has audited 6500 car par signs.

Car park signage can't be too clear in expressing contractual terms and conditions for parking on private land.

Unclear parking signage is unfair to the motorist".

 

Fully agree with that, but obviously something has gone wrong with the audits of NPM and in particular the signage in this location.

 

I am getting a nice portfolio of evidence for this case, which is growing by the day and I will reference as many relevant cases as possible.

 

I found a case on I think Parking Prankster that was quotes the case Parking Eye Vs Mr K. Swindon County Court (bad signage).

 

Would this be acceptable with just the name Mr K?

I did ask them for the surname, but got no response. 

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You have already been told about how to present twice but  I will say it again.

 

You refer to it in your WS exactly like that and then use a screen dump of the article in your evidence bundle as document (whatever number you have given it)

 

It doesnt matter if it says Mrs X, the case number, court and date are there so the judge can look it up and see the entire thing if they so wish. you are showing that there is meat on the bone of your argument.

 

If you get the same judge as the reported case then you say it is the same alleged cause for action and same place so you want that to be considered as persuasive as well.

 

The parking co really shouldnt waste their time doing this but they have to look tough and be able to boast that they do take miscreant parkers to court to try and dissuade others from telling them to jog on

 

. they are nearly all small beer companies and desperately need your money to keep going so a decent costs order against them may well make them avoid court at all costs (pun intended)

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You missed the point/question I was asking.

 

Would a Judge accept a Pranksters screen dump which does not have a surname, just Mr K and if there is only the court mentioned and no case number.

 

If it doesn't, how is he to know he case is genuine from being on a website? There is a lot of rubbish on the internet (fake news) as well as good!

 

I have all the details of the previous case that was dismissed and yes hopefully I will get the same Judge and he will remember the previous case.

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yes

has done loads of times

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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for the fifth time that is why you put Mrs K, case ref  court and date in your WS and the whole article as an evidential document.

 

If the judge thought you were trying to invent a case summary they would then look up the full hearing details on their system

 

half of the case law in the UK doesnt have a name for the appellant or defendant and in the case of family court matters never does have

 

. It is the least important thing in the whole case, the law is what counts

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No it wasn't Fake News. EB is correct, you can use a screendump as evidence in your bundle, as you could use a photocopy of a Report.

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Good. Quoting a website called Parking PRANKster, with the slogan "putting fun back into parking" is hardly credible to those who are not in the know! Now Martin Lewis and MSE might be considered more credible, but sometimes I would trust PP more.

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There was no distrust. Just a question requiring an answer and I think I have justified why I asked it.

 

  I eventually got an answer and also confirmation that the case I had used as an example was genuine.

 

Now all understood and we can move on.

Subject closed. 

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I received the N180 Directions Questionnaire, which I need to post by the weekend.

I am going to say no to mediation, because I have tried all that before and it failed.

 

The claimant has made it very clear that will only accept payment in full!

I will of course agree that the small claims track is appropriate and is to be heard in the local court to myself and the Claimant.

No to seek permission for using expert evidence.

 

I would like to have 1 other person giving evidence on my behalf at the hearing.

Someone who has been watching the operator closely for the last 16 months and has communicated with various people and organisations about them.

Would the court except 2 witnesses including myself?

 

I will give details a days I, and other witness cannot attend in the next 6 months and say no to a interpreter then sign.  

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 I would like to have 1 other person giving evidence on my behalf at the hearing. Someone who has been watching the operator closely for the last 16 months and has communicated with various people and organisations about them. Would the court except 2 witnesses including myself? 

 

Not a witness to the case...no involvement so no and not an expert witness as expert witness are not compatible with parking claims.

 

Andy

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on PPC court claims you always say no to mediation

 

don't forget 3 copies

and don't leave your sig/email/phone on their copy.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 22/05/2019 at 10:28, shamrocker said:

What evidence will the second witness bring that will assist your defence?

 

He has witnessed the parking company breaking various IPC codes of practice,

spoken to the Tesco store Manager and head office at length about complaints/breaches of COP's related to them,

he has taken photographic evidence for me at the site,

written complaints to Tesco,

which lead to their contract being suspended/cancelled

and to our local MP

and the IPC.

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On 22/05/2019 at 12:46, dx100uk said:

on PPC court claims you always say no to mediation

 

don't forget 3 copies

and don't leave your sig/email/phone on their copy.

 

dx

 

3 Copies.

One to the court,

one to the Claimant

and one for myself, correct?

 

And yes I was going to cover up my email address and phone numbers on the Claimants copy, but will do the signature too.

 

After all they didn't even give a name on their Claim form!

Can this be emailed or does it need to be sent by post?

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13 hours ago, Andyorch said:

 I would like to have 1 other person giving evidence on my behalf at the hearing. Someone who has been watching the operator closely for the last 16 months and has communicated with various people and organisations about them. Would the court except 2 witnesses including myself? 

 

Not a witness to the case...no involvement so no and not an expert witness as expert witness are not compatible with parking claims.

 

Andy

Please see my reply to Shamrocker and do you still have the same opinion? 

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4 minutes ago, parkingbill2018 said:

3 Copies. One to the court, one to the Claimant and one for myself, correct? And yes I was going to cover up my email address and phone numbers on the Claimants copy, but will do the signature too. After all they didn't even give a name on their Claim form! Can this be emailed or does it need to be sent by post?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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