Criticism as £30-a-week disability benefit cuts go ahead

[Nystagmite]

So, how are disabled people meant to pay for much needed care? I don't know of anyone willing to do it for nothing.

[sadone]

I think either your relatives are meant to look after you (which isn't going to work for folks like myself who doesn't have anyone in the world) or just go into a corner and die. And be quick about it too.

 

Remember if you can't work, in their eyes you're just a drain on their resources.

[jason2723637]

surely it wont happen its too despicable (the reduction of pip or the abolishment of ESA support group) ....also lets not forget the very recent MPs pay rise again even after the 10 per cent rise recently...

[jason2723637]

ok maybe it will

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3488644/Now-disability-benefits-bill-slashed-1-2billion-Affected-people-include-640-000-need-help-getting-dressed.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

 

Now disability benefits will be slashed by £1.2billion: 640,000 who need help getting dressed set to lose Personal Independence Payments

[sadone]

Never underestimate the pure evil that is the Tory party I'm afraid.

[antone]

surely it wont happen its too despicable (the reduction of pip or the abolishment of ESA support group) ....also lets not forget the very recent MPs pay rise again even after the 10 per cent rise recently...

 

I'm not so bothered about the MPs pay rise (although I don't approve of it). What really upsets me is the idea that this benefit cut may be used to fund a reduction in the higher rate of income tax.

[tommy456]

They may just hold off on more benefit cuts until after the in/out referendum,and just borrow some from the EU ,to give the well off tax cuts, if we remain in, which the Tories want they would hit the poor /disabled later, there again this government like the last labour government are anti poor and anti sick disabled, surely that is discrimination against us? can we not claim this is against our human rights?

[Nystagmite]

I don't have a link sorry; but on Channel 5 news just now, they mentioned something about this being taken to Parliament. Wasn't quite listening; so don't have much information, sorry!

[Old Cogger]

Never underestimate the pure evil that is the Tory party I'm afraid.

 

being saying that for 65 years!

to be honest

[Nystagmite]

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-17/conservative-mps-urge-chancellor-to-rethink-disability-cuts/

[tommy456]

That is only about PIP and the clown Osborne's budget decision to cut that too nothing about ESA being cut by £30 per week for new ESA claimants who meet the criteria for WRAG who will be no better off then they would be on JSA don't see the back bencher's kicking up a fuss about that they should be changing their minds about both cuts

 

Though one thing about PIP it isn't means tested you can be working and still get it

[sillygirl1]

I'm currently on ESA and will be coming up to the 13 week mark soon. I got caught in their raising the pension age trap too so I am doubly stuffed at the moment.

 

If I go back to work after neck surgery on my dodgy discs chances are I won't earn enough to get a decent pension out of the employer.

 

If the government were that evil they would turn round and offer voluntary euthanasia as I 'no longer serve any real purpose'. That is what will happen in the distant future if the current government remain in power for another term or two terms.

 

I didn't choose for my neck to go wrong, the main thing to prevent it going wrong in the future is to have surgery now whilst I am still relatively young and fit...and hope that it doesn't go again.

 

Living on £73.20 a week is no joke, £10 needed per week for fares, £20 put away for future bills, eg phone, electricity, council tax, and then you are left with £43.20 for food and other essential items. It isn't exactly 'money for nothing' when I have paid into the system since I was 16.

[house3]

I dont think these silly people who bring in all these daft ideas and new rules concerning the disabled and ill ,relize just how hard it is when you are in temendous pain every day with Arthritis . Just a bit of strenuous activity starts a flare up.

It really annoys me with this cruel and heartless goverment.Would love to see i.d.s , d.c and g.o in my shoes ,and lots of others in the same position for 24 hrs,see how they like it..

[sadone]

The problem is they never will know whats it's like...ever. They're too rich for that.

 

Also we're all responding to this like real human beings, whilst they're all psychopaths with all the lack of empathy that comes with it.

 

They know full well what their policies do, but they just don't care, knowing that the demographic they're dealing with wouldn't vote for them anyway.

[ripples]

The architect of a lot of these plans Ian Duncan Smith has resigned so where will the changes go next?

[sadone]

There's always some other arse who will replace him. I just hope it doesn't end up being a case of "better the devil you know".

[house3]

I really dont belive for a minute that the real reason i.d.s has resigned was because of the unfairness of the disability cuts .He has been for all the welfare cuts all alone,wooping in parliment.Shame on them all!

[antone]

I really dont belive for a minute that the real reason i.d.s has resigned was because of the unfairness of the disability cuts .He has been for all the welfare cuts all alone,wooping in parliment.Shame on them all!

 

I think you're probably right, more or less. My guess is that the cuts actually are the true reason he resigned, but not because he thinks they're an unconscionable attack on the disabled. It's more likely to be political wrangling between him and Osborne.

 

See, what's always worried me most about IDS is not that he works for the benefit of the wealthy - all Tories and most New Labour people do that. It's that he actually believes what he says. He really does want to rebuild society in the manner suggested to him by the voices in his head. He truly believes that all you need to do is cut benefits and, as if by magic, all those people will get themselves jobs and break out of the "welfare trap". Now along comes Osborne, who's basically just a cynical toff, slashing away at a relatively small budget line item, an action that any fool can see will be unpopular. That wouldn't have played well with IDS, who has worked hard to demonise the "skivers". But it's hard to paint people who need hoists, incontinence pads, wheelchairs or whatever as degenerate layabouts suckling on the public teat. IDS knows this. Osborne probably does too but, as I said, he's cynical. He just doesn't care.

[essexmat]

I think antone hits thenail on the head with the simple "he just doesn't care" - that sums Gideon up in a heartbeat