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When you've finished your 2 year sentence, it's probation, electronic tagging and curfews! :roll:

 

OOOPs, sorry!! Just being facetious! :-) You probably end up back at the Job Centre, knees bend, arms stretch, rah-rah-rah!! And start all over again!

 

Impecunious! :-)

 

P.S. I'm sure someone will come along soon to help you ...... but I thought I'd try humour first!

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yes I have heard that people are sent back to jc and then some back on wp....but after these magnificent changes starting in April anything could happen. mad hatters tea party comes to mind when I think of this govt.

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I still think there will be an emergency general election called before the end of the year.....

 

As far as I know (and I am coming up to the two year mark) they can re-refer you to a different provider in your area, possibly further away just to inconvenience you even more!

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Still waiting to hear what is due to happen! Honestly they didn't envisage that anyone would still be claiming JSA at the end of te time with work program so never wrote any guidance to cover that scenario.

Will let you know when thinks are sent out at work but I expect I will be shot down by someone no doubt or be advised that I'm making it up as usual!!!!

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Still waiting to hear what is due to happen! Honestly they didn't envisage that anyone would still be claiming JSA at the end of te time with work program so never wrote any guidance to cover that scenario.

Will let you know when thinks are sent out at work but I expect I will be shot down by someone no doubt or be advised that I'm making it up as usual!!!!

 

Geez the government never envisaged that anyone would still be claiming jsa at the end of the their time with the work program?

 

Then this makes a total laughing stock of this government. To think they expected everyone to be in work before the end of their WP sentence and the WP has only managed a measly 5% into work lol what a joke

 

But the biggest biggest biggest horror story from this folks is that the government and the hard working strivers dont blame the work program for you not working. No. They blame you!

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Still waiting to hear what is due to happen! Honestly they didn't envisage that anyone would still be claiming JSA at the end of te time with work program so never wrote any guidance to cover that scenario.

Will let you know when thinks are sent out at work but I expect I will be shot down by someone no doubt or be advised that I'm making it up as usual!!!!

 

They thought 100% be in work or sanctioned maybe? :)

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The way the contractors went about bidding for the contracts they were promising the they would deliver success.

They honestly thought people would have found work , would have been badgered so much they would have signed off or claimed another benefit to escape the providers.

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The pimps can and do argue that they tendered for the contracts at a time when the economy was in better shape, so in terms of final outcome payments they have had their fingers burnt, however they have come up with the never ending CV writing, self esteem courses to provide a steady blood transfusion.

 

It's all about money at the end of the day, trying to get the unemployed back into work is an unfortunate trip up clause that the horrible government stuck into their contracts.

 

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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Still waiting to hear what is due to happen! Honestly they didn't envisage that anyone would still be claiming JSA at the end of te time with work program so never wrote any guidance to cover that scenario.

Will let you know when thinks are sent out at work but I expect I will be shot down by someone no doubt or be advised that I'm making it up as usual!!!!

 

I wouldn't be too sure of that my Dear.

 

It looks as if certain parts of the follow on programs have hit major problems; a lot were simply defunded in 2010 and left to die for cheaper things (or more profitable to DWP business partners e.g A4E etc) like CAP.

 

CAP is still on the cards it's just hit a few teething troubles; like it's a step too far in it's current form with the Workfare backlash. Given that almost everything else has been shelved they'll need a new way to fiddle the jobless figures and a revolving WP 2 year cycle one might conclude would be political suicide and the admittance that the whole thing is a shambles.

 

All this is part of the DWP's "Health Work and Well-being" program that's been running for around 10 years. Worth having a gander at is this thing to see what was envisaged which was amazing to when the axe fell and what we have now.

 

p.s. Who loves ya Flumpsy?

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im coming up to nearly two years on the dreaded work programme,any one know what happens after the 2 years is served,do we go back to the job centre,

 

2 friends of mine have finished they 2 years in the WP, both got sent back to the JC one is still there the other has been sent to A4e (she was with ingeus before)

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I still think there will be an emergency general election called before the end of the year.....

 

As far as I know (and I am coming up to the two year mark) they can re-refer you to a different provider in your area, possibly further away just to inconvenience you even more!

It may be possible that, whereas some candidates may be referred back to the Work Programme, others may be referred to MWA and/or required to sign a "Universal Credit Claimant Commitment" (copies have appeared on social media) where candidates are expected to spend x hours a week in working for nothing "preparing for work".

 

http://consent.me.uk/2013/02/15/thirtyfive/

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flumps...as I have said before in other posts, its a good thing for this forum that you come here and give info, being shot down for doing so is wrong.

 

I think from what I have read that the WP wasn't expected to have people on it very long and therefore no plans were made beyond a certain period of time on it, not thinking through properly is normal for this govt.

 

Agreeing with sillygirl1, when the April changes really kick in and are actually happening, there will be repecussions, and please please......an emergency general election..

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Reading through these posts kinda makes me think of the magic roundabout.

JCP-WP-JCP-WP-JCP. Now just put it to the music and whoola you got Dougal and some flower eating cow :-)

The analogy is interesting.... except that, with each iteration, the capacity of the DWP and JCP to deliver is reduced because greater responsibility is transferred to the Welfare To Work Sector.

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The way the contractors went about bidding for the contracts they were promising the they would deliver success.

They honestly thought people would have found work , would have been badgered so much they would have signed off or claimed another benefit to escape the providers.

 

wow I thought the government were dumb enough to think its all down to lack of effort, but were they really so dumb to think people could simply afford to cancel their JSA to escape the WP, and that everyone would miracously find work in the middle of a recession.

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cant they just supply us with free cyanide capsules and have done with it.

 

Where would they get the "volunteers" to stack shelves at Poundland?

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Poundland"

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The analogy is interesting.... except that, with each iteration, the capacity of the DWP and JCP to deliver is reduced because greater responsibility is transferred to the Welfare To Work Sector.

 

Yes and the government look good as those on WP dont show in unemployment figures I believe. Plus it keeps the Dail Heil readers happy knowing unemployed are not getting loads of cash for doing nothing.

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Where would they get the "volunteers" to stack shelves at Poundland?

 

Yes this is true. The tory party need an army of WP slaves to work towards creating a serfdom britain.

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The Work Programme earliest finishing date is June 2013,anyone claiming they or their friends have finished the work programme already are making false claims.

The only exception is people who have been removed from the Work Programme through sanctions from inattendance or other infringements,in this case the JC's ruling on activity post WP will be entirely different from the participants who complete the full 104 weeks.

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The Work Programme earliest finishing date is June 2013,anyone claiming they or their friends have finished the work programme already are making false claims.

The only exception is people who have been removed from the Work Programme through sanctions from inattendance or other infringements,in this case the JC's ruling on activity post WP will be entirely different from the participants who complete the full 104 weeks.

Although, in theory, candidates may be with the Work Programme for up to 2 years, they are only required to continue insofar as the Job Seekers Agreement (for example) remains in force...and, if the candidate secures employment, or commences self employment, or starts a full time College/University Programme, and have to sign off, then as soon as they do notify Job Centre Plus, they can forget the Work Programme.

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Yes, as someone said it will have been 2 years in less than 1 month time since the work programme rolled out into nationwide and surely many long-term job seekers will not have been able to find the job by then.

 

I understand DWP made a Trailblazer in selected markets and issued the results in their research section (I wish I can paste the link here though not allowed due to the lack of my posts) which is not conclusive report.

Neither CAP: Community Action Programme nor OCM: Ongoing Case Management (obviously CAP has more challenges) seems to provide a good solution.

 

I believe it's really high time for DWP to make official announcement about the concrete action plan, or have I been missing any news already came out?

 

So, if someone has any insight on it, pls share about what they are supposed to do to retain JSA after that.

 

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