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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Hi

 

At the moment I have just gone over from Income related JSA to ESA.

 

I was getting help with my mortgage interest payments on JSA (and this has been transferred over whilst claiming ESA) I believe this can continue for 104 weeks on JSA - is it the same time span if I stay on ESA.

 

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Hi

 

My ESA so called medical will be coming up soon - and I expect to fail it (be prepared is my motto), and I will appeal.

 

What happens to my ESA payment if I fail, and go to appeal, will I have to revert back to JSA and keep signing on whilst I appeal.

 

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From what i have learned, you must send in a gl24 appeal form with a doctors sick note asap after you are refused (if you are refused) and state you wish to recieve ESA at the basic rate pending appeal/tribunal. Thats where i am now.

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Hi

 

I have been on ESA for 12 weeks, I sent in the ESA form mid December, but so far have not heard a thing, are they waiting to see if I get issued with another certificate due at the end of this month or just busy?

 

I did not send any medical evidence as I do not have any, only my GP and councillors name, as well as descriptions on how my illness effects me, I was honest and did not make anything up.

Not sure what I will do if they fail me, and put me back on JSA, as I know I could not hold down a job (not at the moment anyway.)

 

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Hi

 

I have been on ESA for 12 weeks, I sent in the ESA form mid December, but so far have not heard a thing, are they waiting to see if I get issued with another certificate due at the end of this month or just busy?

 

I did not send any medical evidence as I do not have any, only my GP and councillors name, as well as descriptions on how my illness effects me, I was honest and did not make anything up.

Not sure what I will do if they fail me, and put me back on JSA, as I know I could not hold down a job (not at the moment anyway.)

 

Lilly

Your assessment period is thirteen weeks, so you will not have heard anything yet, It was four months for me from submitting the form to getting the ATOS assessment.

 

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I would not worry as yet.

 

I have been on assessment rate ESA since last June and returned my ESA50 form to them at the beginning of September. I finally got a phone call last week with a date for my assessment appointment for the start of next month - though I may have to change the date as I have another appointment I've just been informed about that is the same day and, if I miss that, the next available one isn't until sometime in April!!

 

I have sent in medical certificates continuously - though they lost one in October and I only found out when my money didn't arrive (I got a duplicate from the GP and took it into the job centre the same day, they copied it and registered it as received on their system - the money arrived the following day) and my present one covers me until the middle of March.

 

In total, since submitting my form until the offered date of ATOS assessment, it's been 5 months!!

 

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Hi

 

I have been claiming ESA since Nov 7th sent ESA medical form in Dec 19th still waiting to be called for medical.

 

Do not expect to pass as my illness is depression along with some other problems - and how hard is this to prove, when people with cancer are being passed fit.

 

Although I shall appeal, because I simply know as does my GP and Councillor that I am not fit to work.

 

Couple of questions - how long before I get called for the medical

Should I pass - does my money get back dated from the day I started to claim, or to the end of the 13th week.

If I fail do I stay on the £67 a week whilst I appeal.

 

Any advice would be great.

 

Lily

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Hi

 

I have been claiming ESA since Nov 7th sent ESA medical form in Dec 19th still waiting to be called for medical.

 

Do not expect to pass as my illness is depression along with some other problems - and how hard is this to prove, when people with cancer are being passed fit.

 

Although I shall appeal, because I simply know as does my GP and Councillor that I am not fit to work.

 

Couple of questions - how long before I get called for the medical - My medical was about two months after I sent the ESA50 form in.

 

Should I pass - does my money get back dated from the day I started to claim, or to the end of the 13th week. - Unsure. Someone will confirm this shortly.

 

If I fail do I stay on the £67 a week whilst I appeal. - Yes. You will still receive the £67 per week 'Assessment Rate' of ESA, while you appeal.

 

Any advice would be great.

 

Lily

 

Hi,

 

My answers are in bold.

 

Having been through the appeal process once before (am going through a second appeal as we speak), my best advice to you would be to expect to 'fail' the medical and focus on your appeal / gathering supporting evidence.

 

See Honeybee's helpful appeal advice thread here -

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-information(3-Viewing)-nbsp

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Hi,

 

My answers are in bold.

 

Having been through the appeal process once before (am going through a second appeal as we speak), my best advice to you would be to expect to 'fail' the medical and focus on your appeal / gathering supporting evidence.

 

See Honeybee's helpful appeal advice thread here -

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-information(3-Viewing)-nbsp

 

Hope this helps.

 

:)

 

 

Great help - thank you very much.

Yes, I am expecting to fail.

 

Lily

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Apparently (I read on here), the DWP are clamping down on mental health issues (just what mentally ill people need).

 

ie - They will want to see at the Appeal stage, that you are proactively seeking / receiving treatment, be that therapy or something similar.

 

Focus on asking your GP / Therapist / specialists for a supporting letter, which states your condition / medication / treatment.

 

With representation (Ask for this NOW, from your local CAB / CLS), between 60 and 70% of people are winning their ESA Appeals.

 

All the best.

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Great help - thank you very much.

Yes, I am expecting to fail.

 

Lily

 

You're welcome.

 

Don't let them stress you out. I appreciate that this is easier said than done!

 

It's all a waiting game, and we all have to play them at their own 'game' sadly, while trying to focus on getting well.

 

Good Luck.

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Apparently (I read on here), the DWP are clamping down on mental health issues (just what mentally ill people need).

 

ie - They will want to see at the Appeal stage, that you are proactively seeking / receiving treatment, be that therapy or something similar.

 

Focus on asking your GP / Therapist / specialists for a supporting letter, which states your condition / medication / treatment.

 

With representation (Ask for this NOW, from your local CAB / CLS), between 60 and 70% of people are winning their ESA Appeals.

 

All the best.

 

 

I am receiving Counselling but it is not going well, they are talking of moving me over to a pshychtiarist (sp)!!

 

I have no one to help with the appeal if I manage to follow the help on here is it possible to go it alone.

I struggle to talk to strangers about my illness anyway.

 

Yes, I am worried sick the scare stories of what is being expected of people is beyond belief.

 

Lily

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I am receiving Counselling but it is not going well, they are talking of moving me over to a pshychtiarist (sp)!!

 

I have no one to help with the appeal if I manage to follow the help on here is it possible to go it alone.

I struggle to talk to strangers about my illness anyway.

 

Yes, I am worried sick the scare stories of what is being expected of people is beyond belief.

 

Lily

 

Hi,

 

Sorry to read that your Counselling isn't going so well. As you are undoubtedly already aware, often these things are tougher before they get easier.

 

It is certainly possible to go it alone with the appeal, but I would advise asking the CAB for some help. That's what they are there for!

 

They will take the pressure off. They can help with preparing your appeal, and may even attend the hearing with you.

 

I know where you're coming from, regarding talking to strangers, but the CAB are there to help you.

 

The lady helping with my appeal at the CAB is lovely. She's a 'Community Legal Service Welfare Rights Advisor'. She will also attend my hearing with me, and I'm sure if you ask them, you'll be able to get some help too.

 

Not only will they take a load off, your chances of winning your appeal will increase from about 20% (going alone), to around 70% (with representation)!

 

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Hello Lily.

 

I had/have mental problems and I can tell you that the best thing that happened to me was being sent to a psychiatrist at the local NHS Mental Health team. When people were giving me a hard time about being absolutely fine when I wasn't, she fought tooth and nail for me.

 

There was also team social workers who were very good too.

 

Yes, you can do it alone, but if you can get support from the CAB or Welfare Rights your job will be easier. If not, there's help here as you know. When I had my appeal and tribunal, I hadn't found CAG or the CAB or Welfare Rights. My OH was a great help and wrote the submission that is now the forum template for a tribunal, and we won :).

 

HB x

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Hello Lily.

 

I had/have mental problems and I can tell you that the best thing that happened to me was being sent to a psychiatrist at the local NHS Mental Health team. When people were giving me a hard time about being absolutely fine when I wasn't, she fought tooth and nail for me.

 

There was also team social workers who were very good too.

 

Yes, you can do it alone, but if you can get support from the CAB or Welfare Rights your job will be easier. If not, there's help here as you know. When I had my appeal and tribunal, I hadn't found CAG or the CAB or Welfare Rights. My OH was a great help and wrote the submission that is now the forum template for a tribunal, and we won :).

 

HB x

 

Thanks HB I feel a bit better after that.

At the moment I am receiving cognitive therapy, but it is not working (sadly my issues go back donkeys years) whilst I was married I managed to keep them buried - but all the stress from losing my partner, my mum, my business in all 2 years have just taken its toll and I feel mentally and physically dead - also being 55 on JSA (as I was) was soul destroying, as no one wanted to offer me a job - I never even got replies from the countless applications = even my job centre wanted to pass me on to another area, as I was a blot on their books.

All goes to make you feel really good about yourself.

 

I have found a welfare rights in my area as well as a law centre which offers free help and specialises in benefits so, I will wait to first get the medical, and then go from there.

I think the CAB are absolutely stretched it is so hard to even get to see them - mind you the WR place only takes calls once a week between 2 and 4!

 

Anyway I shall try my best - as there is no other option open to me.

 

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Lily

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Hello again.

 

CBT doesn't work for everybody, it made me worse. Just keep plodding on the way you are, one day at a time. It sounds as if you have quite a lot of help one way and another.

 

HB x

 

Funny that HB - one day at a time has become my motto.

I am glad you said CBT does not work for everyone - I thought it was me.

I have problems writing down my day to day events (because often there aren't any) - I don't want to keep a diary also I have got passed that stage of achieving something and feeling good - these days I feel zilch.

I don't look at the positives as positives, they are just things that get done.

 

So I use all of my cups instead of washing the same one time and time again - I know I should not, but I do.

 

All in all I wonder how I got to 55 because at the moment breathing is a struggle.

 

Lily

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