Devere Parking Services

[Steve_E]

Hi guys,

 

my girlfreind received a parking ticket today from a company called Devere Parking Services.

 

Now, the offending act was that she was parked in a disabled bay whilst she with-drew some cash from a cash point.

 

Obviously i cant defend her actions,

it's not the best of things to do, but she has been issued with a £100 fine by this private company,

which seems almost extorsion!

 

The offence was commited on 28th December 2009,

which is almost 7 weeks ago now,

is there a cut off point for issuing these sort of tickets?

 

Also, is this company likely to take court action if we were to not respond to this as some threads advise,

or go down the templates route?

 

What shall i advise her to do?

 

Paying £100 simply doesnt seem fair.

 

Thanks, Steve.

Edited February 13, 2010 by Steve_E

[lamma]

it wasn't an offence and its not a fine. and its an invoice from chancers. have a read on here - lots of posts telling you what to do. shoulkd take all of 90 seconds...

[Steve_E]

Yea i read the template letters etc, but it a defense which relys on not admitting she was the driver of the car, which seems a little flimsy to me? And, well, that would be a lie?

[Guest wino]

The best thing to do is ignore this.

Don't write or phone them.

You will get more letters some even threatening further action. Just ignore them.

Private companies can only request money it cannot be enforced so just ignore anything from them.

[pin1onu]

Yea i read the template letters etc, but it a defense which relys on not admitting she was the driver of the car, which seems a little flimsy to me? And, well, that would be a lie?

It's only one weapon in the arsenal.

 

Also be aware that what you have is not a ticket from a council or the old bill but rather an invoice seeking damages for an alleged breach of contract. There is no time limit other than the ones that govern breaches of contract law.

 

They have issues of contractural privity, unfair terms, penalty charges in contracts to name a few. Have a look at this link here.

They have written to Registered Keeper of vehicle. They have no way of knowing if the RK was the driver on the day. They are fishing for information that you are under no obligation to tell them.

 

Have a look at some of the other threads and you'll see a pattern. The names of the companies change but they all operate in a pretty standard way.

 

In the extremely unlikely event that they take you to court then there are a number of people who will help you prepare a defense that blows the case out the water. I would stress that it is extremely unlikely to get that far.

[Rooster-UK]

Action 1... IGNORE.

Action 2... IGNORE.

Action 3... Go back to 1.

[the_freedom_trail]

One of the chaps that runs Devere is called ..., he drives a ...........which can frequently be seen running around Bournemouth

(this is a recently new car, he used to have a ......).

 

The chap himself I would say is in his late 40's to mid 50's, balding with shaved grey hair, about 5' 8" with a stocky build (13 stone-ish).

 

Devere invoices are very poor, even in the context of PPC's

- they look like they've been run off on MS Word or similar.

 

I know they also patrol Castle Point in Bournemouth.

 

They are based in Bournemouth but use a Mailboxes address in Commercial Road which is near Bournemouth Triangle.

 

The business has an @hotmail.com address so seems fairly amateurish,

also signage is very poorly written (no knowledge of contract law whatsoever).

 

From my understanding, this chap ... basically rides around Bournemouth all day stopping off at various sites issuing tickets.

 

It would appear to be a small fry operation at best, almost a pension scheme!

 

TFT

[devereparkinghater]

Firstly, thought I would register to say I was taken to Court by Devere Parking Services in January 2011 and I lost.

How much I hate this company I had to pay.

 

Having read the absolute nonsense of the_freedom_trail's posts who should really be named 'Victor Meldrew', by the amount of whinging and refunds they receive I can confirm the the person who attended Court is not a Lee or has that vehicle.

The person who was in Court was a Mr Clarke who drove a Mercedez Benz!!

And your comment regarding no knowledge of contract law is complete twaddle. The Judge stated that 'Contract Law was correct in this case'.

 

I was taken to Court for £180.00, which at Concilliation was reduced to £100.00 if paid within 14 days.

 

So do us all a favour stop geeing people up with pointless posts as in truth you are just a bored individual who has nothing constructive to say in assisting people avoid paying fines.

Stick to obtaining refunds Victor you seem good at that!!

[ashmk]

Firstly, thought I would register to say I was taken to Court by Devere Parking Services in January 2011 and I lost.

How much I hate this company I had to pay.

 

Having read the absolute nonsense of the_freedom_trail's posts who should really be named 'Victor Meldrew', by the amount of whinging and refunds they receive I can confirm the the person who attended Court is not a Lee or has that vehicle.

The person who was in Court was a Mr Clarke who drove a Mercedez Benz!!

And your comment regarding no knowledge of contract law is complete twaddle. The Judge stated that 'Contract Law was correct in this case'.

 

I was taken to Court for £180.00, which at Concilliation was reduced to £100.00 if paid within 14 days.

 

So do us all a favour stop geeing people up with pointless posts as in truth you are just a bored individual who has nothing constructive to say in assisting people avoid paying fines.

Stick to obtaining refunds Victor you seem good at that!!

 

Clearly you are linked to this company.

CAG advice (which is good advice) remains the same. IGNOR these clowns.

[devereparkinghater]

Another fool. Do you have any evidence to back up that statement?

Would you like the County Court Case number to confirm? I can send it via PM if you like.

Do not ignore!! As it only ends up biting you on the backside. Deal with problem, DO NOT IGNORE IT.

I ignored it and ended up paying £100.00.

[crem]

I always find it amazing how people who have allegedly lost a case against a PPC take the time and trouble to register on CAG AFTER the case to tell us they have lost and that everyone on here should pay their parking invoices immediately. Why they didn't register BEFORE the court case and get good advise to go into court with I'll never know!

[dw190]

Another fool. Do you have any evidence to back up that statement?

Would you like the County Court Case number to confirm? I can send it via PM if you like.

Do not ignore!! As it only ends up biting you on the backside. Deal with problem, DO NOT IGNORE IT.

I ignored it and ended up paying £100.00.

 

Prove it then

[honeybee13]

I always find it amazing how people who have allegedly lost a case against a PPC take the time and trouble to register on CAG AFTER the case to tell us they have lost and that everyone on here should pay their parking invoices immediately. Why they didn't register BEFORE the court case and get good advise to go into court with I'll never know!

 

Hi guys. It seems we're going round the same loop again. I suppose the people are getting a bit more clever with their usernames these days.

 

My best, HB

[42man]

They have nothing better to do because clamping on private land is to become a crime.....just sour grapes.

[devereparkinghater]

More doubters!

I went to the CAB who told me not to ignore it, but deal with it and

 

the local Solicitor I saw who charged me £75.00 for half an hour told me to pay for it.

 

It's incredible that people on a site such as this who give information such as ignore ignore ignore,

come faced with somebody like me who has been caught is disbelieved.

 

You lot continue to live in this fairy tail world of ignoring things.

 

If you were 3 months in mortgage arrears would you ignore the letters stating your house was being repossessed.

 

As for Crem's comment I did read previous posts on this site

- responses ranged from ignore to .................

......... ignore. Not very helpful really.

DW190 if you pm and ask me nicely I will give you the case number for you to look up.

[honeybee13]

Hello again. If you're so keen to give out the court reference, may I politely suggest you post it on this thread? I don't think you've made enough posts to be able to PM anyone atm.

 

HB

[42man]

This is from Watchdog..

 

If it is from a private company and not the Police.

This is the advice of Tim Cary a Solicitor who specialises in traffic law and appeared as a guest of Anne Robinson on the BBC program WATCHDOG which was shown on BBC1 on Thursday the 6th of May 2010.

Tim stated that he ‘was surprised at the volume of these fines being issued’ and said, ‘ People don’t have t deal with them, people don’t have to answer them because it is NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE not to answer these unless they are from the police.’

Anne Robinson then said that ‘People are worried about being taken to court… what are their chances of being taken to court?’

Tim answered that ‘It is up to the parking company to sue the driver NOT THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE OR REGISTERED KEEPER and they have to prove that the driver was in breach of some contractual term,

Anne then asked ‘will they do that?’ and Tim said ‘I don’t know of any cases where they have done it and it would be incredibly difficult to mount a case before a County Court.

Anne then went on to mention people’s other worry about when debt collectors get involved and peoples credit ratings getting marked down.

Tim, who is an expert in traffic law said ‘Complete nonsense, complete nonsense. The only way that you will have your credit rating damaged is if you were to get a County judgment against you that was registered’.

And since he already indicated that that would be nearly impossible for the Private Parking Companies to do and to his knowledge they haven’t done it yet. I wouldn’t worry about ignoring parking fines no matter how officious they may seem.

As a matter of point, Anne Robinson pointed out that the fine itself, complete with photos of the ‘offending vehicle’ really did look like an official penalty charge and Tim agreed that it looked impressive. He then went on to state that if his Mum got one he would advise her to fold it up into a paper aeroplane and simply throw it away.

So it seems that the Parking Companies have been telling us a few porkies…

Naughty naughty.

[SURFBOY]

I can assure you that i have IGNORED every letter that PPCs have sent and i am still here , i have not responded and not paid a penny, i would say that is a pretty good result and i would also say that CAG , free advice is the best advice on offer.You must of had a poor defence if you lost your case. Would be interesting to see the details of your court case, care to enlighten us ?

[crem]

Well strangely enough I also managed to safely ignore my PPC invoice and lived to tell the tale also.

[crem]

As for Crem's comment I did read previous posts on this site - responses ranged from ignore to .......................... ignore. Not very helpful really.

 

Extremely helpful in my opinion from the many occasions it has been used successfully.

[cirian75]

TTFN devereparkinghater, or should we say Lee

[ashmk]

I would say please forward me the county court details to have these verified but I think this guy is so full of edit it will only be a waste of my time. But if you want to PM me then go for it. If you cannot use PM yet go write some more posts.

 

Edited by site team, please keep all advise on forums.

[Homer67]

Firstly, thought I would register to say I was taken to Court by Devere Parking Services in January 2011 and I lost.

How much I hate this company I had to pay.

 

Having read the absolute nonsense of the_freedom_trail's posts who should really be named 'Victor Meldrew', by the amount of whinging and refunds they receive I can confirm the the person who attended Court is not a Lee or has that vehicle.

The person who was in Court was a Mr Clarke who drove a Mercedez Benz!!

And your comment regarding no knowledge of contract law is complete twaddle. The Judge stated that 'Contract Law was correct in this case'.

 

I was taken to Court for £180.00, which at Concilliation was reduced to £100.00 if paid within 14 days.

 

So do us all a favour stop geeing people up with pointless posts as in truth you are just a bored individual who has nothing constructive to say in assisting people avoid paying fines.

Stick to obtaining refunds Victor you seem good at that!!

 

You are Lee, the owner, operator, manager, debt collector, chief cook & bottle washer, office junior and dogsbody of yet another cowboy outfit known as Devere Parking and I claim my five pounds.

 

Did you really think your ridiculous rant would be enough to convince anyone to cough up their hard earned money

 

What's the matter Lee, don't you like it when someone gains your personal details and reg number and uses them without your permission?

 

Congratulations, you can go and sit in the corner with the stupid hat on for the rest of the week.

Edited February 11, 2011 by 42man

[honeybee13]

How do you know, Homer?

 

My best, HB

[borisbeaver]

Doesn't Mr Devere live at grantly estate (to the Manor Born) at cricket st. thomas and was a friend with mr blobby? (Blobby Land)