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    • Hi CAG Team, I'm seeking your skills and help for a NtK my partner received through the post earlier this week. To give a little backstory, my partner and I, along with our young children (4 and 7), decided to go on a camping holiday about 3 hours away from us. We took a car each because we didn't have enough room in one car. We arrived at the services at very similar times as we followed each other the whole way. So, two cars. My partner has received this NtK, but I haven't. This NtK dropped through the front door on Wednesday, June 5, 2024.  We both parked in the Burger King car park, not in BP; we got out, all went for a toilet break, got some food from the BP garage and returned to our cars to eat.  After eating, we took the kids to the toilet again before leaving to complete our journey. I didn't notice any parking restriction signs and can't get back to the location due to how far away it is. I noticed another person had an issue here and reported it to you, and they managed to get the charge dropped. See below. To me, it looks like they have cameras at the complex's entrance and exit. I'm not sure if they own the land/car park by Burger King, I'm not sure if this is a legal contract or not.  I find that 30 mins limit at a Services that serves hot food to be ridiculous and unfair, especially as we had kids to feed and water.  And the fact that I didn't receive the same NtK despite us driving in and out together is just crazy. This is the location - I also uploaded a map image. Google Maps MAPS.APP.GOO.GL ★★★☆☆ · Restaurant 1 Date of the infringement 24th May 2024 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 29th May 2024 3 Date received 5th June 2024 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] N 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Y - Only entering and exiting the complex/land. 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N 7 Who is the parking company? MET 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] BP Blue Boys, Tonbridge TN12 7HE For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. POPLA I hope you can help me out with some guidance on how to proceed with this. Let me know if you need anything else. Thank you, Passerby0233 2024-06-08 13_17_52-Burger King - Google Maps — Mozilla Firefox.pdf NtK_29-05-2024.compressed.pdf
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre (Northampton) Name of the Claimant ? PRA Group (UK) Limited How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – 23/5/24 AOS - Tues, 11/6/24 (19 days)  Defence - Thurs, 25/6/24 (33 days) Particulars of Claim 1. The Claimant claims the sum of £7926 for an outstanding debt owed. 2. On 20/4/18 the Defendant entered into an agreement with Lloyds Bank for a Credit Card under reference [16 numbers]. 3. On 10/5/22 the Defendant defaulted on the agreement with an outstanding balance of £7296. 4. On 28/11/23 the debt of £7296 was assigned to PRA Group (UK) Limited, who itself assigned the debt to PRA Group UK Portfolios Ltd on 30/12/23. Notices of assignment were sent to the Defendant in accordance with S136 Law of Property Act 1925. The Claimant has instructed PRA Group (UK) to act on its behalf and the CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. The sum of £7925 What is the total value of the claim? £8481 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Yes Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? I believe I sent a letter by registered mail of a change in address to abroad in 2021. Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not personally - probably sent to my parents Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not personally - probably sent to my parents Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not personally - probably sent to my parents Why did you cease payments? Unable to afford, living abroad What was the date of your last payment? Unsure (probably 2021) Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No ................... I have read through a number of similar threads, one thing i'm not sure how to proceed about is that I live abroad in the middle east and have done for several years. The claim letter was sent to my parents address and I really don't want them to be harassed about this. I am sure I sent the original creditor a registered letter with my change of address but can't find this currently. I am not in a position to pay this, and tend to come back to the UK to see family at most once a year (less since Covid),  not particular bothered about my financial score...more concerned about harassment of my parents. I have not registered on the gov gateway or anything like that.  Details below (as best as i can), and thank you for taking the time to look into it. Also redacted claim form attached: Claim form 23-5-24.pdf
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I have tried to answer the questions raised however I can still see that there is confusion over our service. Due to the specific nature of an individual’s data and the anonymity of the forum I am unable to respond directly. I know it has been raised that a few people on the forum are concerned about contacting me directly as I would then be able to link them back to their forum identity. This is not the case, if you contact me through [email protected] I have no idea who you are and therefore would be making no such connections. So if anyone would like to contact me with any further questions or a Subject Access Request please do and I will respond accordingly.

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I have just had a lengthy conversation with my prospective MP (Who will almost certainly win his seat at the next election because he has a tiny majority to overturn) about this company and what they are doing and the lack of regard to our data security.

 

His first impression is that what this company is doing is contrary to the principles of the Data Protection Act and if it is using some loophole to stick 2 fingers up at the Act then he would be interested in taking this up at a parliamentary level to prevent them from continuing this practice.

 

He agrees that the type of data being sold has the potential to expose an individual to significant harm or to expose an individual to having their identity stolen or abused in such a way as to cause significant harm.

 

He has advised me to complain directly to the ICO (In addition to I-CD Publishing (UK) Ltd ) and to copy him in on all communications. He says that the ICO will react quickly to a notification.

 

I get the impression that this kind of issue will be taken seriously by your MP or prospective MP so do the same and hopefully we can reign in this business that is a parasite on our freedom.

 

 

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My listing is dated 2007, it is my business number & in the public domain its under my business name NOT in my own name , yet 192.com lists me OH & our son - can you please explain how you obtained that information 192 - I'am self employed & not a ltd company.

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i did a search for me and i found me. Couldn't believe it. Admitedly its well out of date, as i moved out of that house in 2002. It also listed all my old flatmates, 1 like me doesn't live in the UK anymore, and another is now semi-famous. Not one of us lives at that address, and hasn't done since 2002. i pity for poor fools who pay for that info. unless its a DCA of course.

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I wonder why 192cs is ignoring the legal requirement "PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT"

 

regardless of their offer to remove, they did not have CONSENT in the first place regardless of where they extracted the info from

 

CONSENT in LAW is required to retain and forward the the INFO to anyone

 

stop playing on we can remove the INFO if you want, you dont in most cases have the right to hold the INFO in the first place :mad:

 

come on 192CS address the questions asked ,

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i did a search for me and i found me. Couldn't believe it. Admitedly its well out of date, as i moved out of that house in 2002. It also listed all my old flatmates, 1 like me doesn't live in the UK anymore, and another is now semi-famous. Not one of us lives at that address, and hasn't done since 2002. i pity for poor fools who pay for that info. unless its a DCA of course.

 

Breach of the 1st Principle of the Data Protection Act 1998.

 

Shocking!

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So I wonder when our "Zoe" is going to answer the questions here...if ever.:rolleyes:

 

No doubt she has some pseudo-jobsworth title like "Customer-Liason-Manager" or "Company-Interface-Executive", specialising in issue avoidance and burying the problem.

 

I for one will take anything she says as BS.

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....hello Guests....

 

 

 

Blimey, must be a slow day in the offices - there are 8 guests on here at the moment.

 

Do feel free to register & add your comments but do be aware that Caggers can spot trolls from a long way off :)

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How did 192 obtain the necessary consent from each and every individual involved, in order to process their subject data?

 

How long should organisations keep data for?

The Data Protection Act says that information should be kept for no longer than is necessary. The Act does not specify what a ‘necessary’ period should be for particular information. Each case would be considered on its own merits. If an organisation is obliged to retain data for a given length of time under any other laws, this should be taken into consideration.

 

For example, financial institutes may have to keep some information for up to six years in accordance with the Financial Services Authority regulations. A sole trader, however, may not need to keep information for longer than a month.

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192 used in conjunction with Facebook/Bebo Ancestry etc, etc is a surefire way to track someone down. Cheap, quick and easy too.

 

Personal info is all over the internet like a mad persons manure.

 

Not advertising here, just another similar example PEOPLE SEARCH,using the electoral roll and voters roll

HOIST BY THEIR OWN PETARD.

 

Blimey it works....:-)

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The country has gone mad!!

 

The majority of British people have no objection to being in a telephone directory, if that is their choice and if not, they can become ex-directory.

 

Personally speaking I strongly object about having my data banded about on the internet, when I have not provided consent nor, posted up data about myself on facebook etc...

 

Much of the information that is being published by 192, is inaccurate, out of date and often providing data that could be of a sensitive nature.

 

Consumers who have opted out of the ER and who are ex-directory, should not find themselves as being listed on 192 etc.

 

The Human Rights Act and the Right to Privacy, is subordinate legislation under the DPA.

 

The following Link will be of interest to many:

Your rights - The Right to Privacy

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Even the Electoral Roll gets it wrong. Let's face it, we could state that Elvis lived at our address and it would go in. Oooh there's a thought :D

 

I'm on facebook, but not with my real name. If I want anyone to find me, I tell them. Who wants some spotty ex stalker from your schooldays turning up at the door?

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Who wants some spotty ex stalker from your schooldays turning up at the door?

 

My thoughts exactly. I don't bother with any of that 'Facebook' kind of stuff.

 

It's very annoying - no - actually it's infuriating when you see details relevant to yourself appear on certain websites when you have not given them your express permission to use it.

I suspect much of it comes from the "we may sell or pass your details to reputable third party companies" or similar stuff that's in the small print of innocuous looking things nowadays..........

HOIST BY THEIR OWN PETARD.

 

Blimey it works....:-)

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