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Cheers, and thanks again for all your help!

Rob

Righty then, ok, the Litigant in person rate is £9.25 per hours

 

i think its reasonable to say 25 hours research of the claim

 

2 hours letter writing

 

plus your time travelling to the court to serve documents etc and anything else you can think of

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Hello,

 

I knew I knew it, they would not be so stupid, and as for the court MMmmmh.

 

Well done Matey, they start off a bit cocky don't they and now they are running with their tail between their legs.:lol::lol::lol:

I love it:D

 

:razz: to hfc/restons one in the eye for them

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Righty then, ok, the Litigant in person rate is £9.25 per hours

 

i think its reasonable to say 25 hours research of the claim

 

2 hours letter writing

 

plus your time travelling to the court to serve documents etc and anything else you can think of Thanks for that Paul. I'll cobble up a schedule of costs along those lines and send it to Restons. Should I address it as "For the attention of HFC, in the matter of Claim No XXXXXXXX etc." (on the letter)?

 

To everyone who has posted messages of congratulations and contributed earlier to this thread, thanks for those messages and your support! We can get through these difficulties by supporting each other, after all, that's what CAG is all about. :D

 

Onwards and upwards!

 

Who's next on my list? Well would you believe it, HFC/Restons! I'm feeling more confident in proceeding with a set-aside application for a previous judgement which I initially admitted before I found CAG :)

 

Cheers all :D

Rob

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To everyone who has posted messages of congratulations and contributed earlier to this thread, thanks for those messages and your support! We can get through these difficulties by supporting each other, after all, that's what CAG is all about. :D

 

Onwards and upwards!

 

Who's next on my list? Well would you believe it, HFC/Restons! I'm feeling more confident in proceeding with a set-aside application for a previous judgement which I initially admitted before I found CAG :)

 

Cheers all :D

Rob

Oh and BTW,

 

don't forget that you would like them to remove any adverse data they have added which is unsubstantiated , especially since the they failed with this case

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Oh and BTW,

 

don't forget that you would like them to remove any adverse data they have added which is unsubstantiated , especially since the they failed with this case

 

Good point Paul, thanks! ;)

 

I've never actually checked my files with any CRA to see what is on there, but no doubt it's now full of bad stuff!

 

I think I'll start with trying to get the costs issue sorted, but I wouldn't mind betting that won't be straightforward, and even if HFC do agree in principal there's a chance they'll say they'll deduct it from the alleged debt!!! What debt? I'll say, and insist on a cheque payment. ;)

 

Cheers

Rob

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Hi Rob

congratulation... so please for you.. I think now is the time to get back at them for all the time that you have wasted on them, the stress they created, the rising blood pressure etc etc..that you have suffered all this thime when they know that they are in the wrong.

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Oh Rob! Really and truly i cannot tell you how pleased i am. Very well done you for sticking at it and obviously more congrats to Paul too for all his work!

 

:D:p:D:p

 

Oh yeah.....

 

In your face HFC.............sorry couldn't resist :p

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Hi All :)

 

Well today brings another welcome result!

 

Another envelope arrived in the post from Restons marked URGENT - NOT A CIRCULAR as per usual, only this time it contained a cheque for my costs! :D

 

They have paid up in full without any argument (and included the amount which had been outstanding for the hearing of 22 May 2008 and which I had added to the schedule of costs). Which now leaves me wondering maybe I should have claimed more than I did!

 

Anyway, I got the amount I claimed, so that's that.

 

I'm off now to pay the cheque in to my BS account so that it clears ASAP, after which I'll be making a further donation to CAG!

 

I'll then be considering my next moves regarding getting the alleged agreement declared unenforceable, and possibly getting any defaults removed from the CRA records (not checked them yet though).

 

Cheers

Rob

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Forgot to mention, the cheque was a RESTONS (not HFC) cheque! :D:D

 

Cheers

Rob

 

 

Brilliant news robag, I hope it gets cleared in good time. I am so pleased for you.:D

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