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    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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I'm hoping someone can help me with a query on my jsa being sanctioned for failing to apply for jobs i'm not qualified for!!

Basically when i signed on i was told my job search activity log did not include any applications for jobs in the last fortnight....i explained to my advisor that all applicable vacancies i had seen had statutary requirements of basic qualifications or certificates which i did not possess...i was then told i should have applied for them regardless and because i did not my claim was being sent to a decision maker!!! I was given form ES48 which states "Until this decision is reached jobseekers allowance cannot be paid

Firstly am i right that by being referred to a decision maker my payment will automatically be stopped and will probably rely on an appeal to qualify for future payments??

Also how is it ethical to require me to apply for jobs i'm not qualified for??

Any advice on how to fight this decision would be greatly appreciated

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You have been referred to DMA for ASE action, this because you have not shown applications made and the adviser has identified through UJM and possibly Indeed and local papers etc vacancies that you could have applied for.

What type of work are you required to look for as per your Job Seekers Agreement and how long have you been claiming?

I'm afraid that ethics don't apply,

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my brother had the same thing jsa sanctioned stopped for 2 weeks, decision maker up held it, he is now appealing, doing a formal complaint and reported to his local MP, he has been advised to do all this because he had done everything required by jcp, he signed on yesterday and he will get his money Friday but he has to do the appeal to get the 2 weeks he lost

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I have been claiming for 6 weeks(my 3rd signing was today) i have been looking for kitchen/warehouse work and have had problems finding vacancies not requiring me to have health and hygiene or valid forklift licences (reach/c-balance)

Could you explain the terms DMA ASE and UJM please?

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You have been referred to DMA for ASE action, this because you have not shown applications made and the adviser has identified through UJM and possibly Indeed and local papers etc vacancies that you could have applied for.

What type of work are you required to look for as per your Job Seekers Agreement and how long have you been claiming?

I'm afraid that ethics don't apply,

 

Well its a waste of time applying for work you aint qualified to do. Its a bit like me applying to be an airline pilot but can bearly drive a car.

Would you not agree?

I think its disgusting that people should be treated this way to be honest.

If you apply for a job you are not qualified to do then you are wasting the employers time and money. You will never never never get the job so whats the point?

 

However to not apply for a job you are qualified to do is a different kettle of fish, I could then understand it.

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ASE is actively seeking employment, UJM is Universal Job Match and DMA is Decision Making and Appeals team who ulitimately make the decisions regarding the payability of your JSA following any doubts raised.

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just apply for anything,as long as your diary is filled,who cares what you apply for,you wont get any replies back when they view your cv anyway.

 

By doing this it makes a mockery of looking for employment.

I could apply only for jobs I know I wouldnt get so I could stay on the dole lol yes I bet there are thousands of jobs around the country that I will never be able to do.

 

I think the government and dwp are really taking the piddle on this matter. Its a bit like a monty python sketch.

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By doing this it makes a mockery of looking for employment.

I could apply only for jobs I know I wouldnt get so I could stay on the dole lol yes I bet there are thousands of jobs around the country that I will never be able to do.

 

I think the government and dwp are really taking the piddle on this matter. Its a bit like a monty python sketch.

 

Of course it makes a mockery, but that's the system. It's not fair, we know that. If they set unfair rules you have to respond with unfair behaviour.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Poundland"

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By doing this it makes a mockery of looking for employment.

I could apply only for jobs I know I wouldnt get so I could stay on the dole lol yes I bet there are thousands of jobs around the country that I will never be able to do.

 

I think the government and dwp are really taking the piddle on this matter. Its a bit like a monty python sketch.

 

And this is why I feel like the entire wellfare system is broken, I have known people sitting on the dole for over years, never looking for a job, just filling their diaries, and people who are looking for work, and want to be truthful are the ones that get stung by the system.

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One thing to consider when applying for kitchen jobs and the like where you don't already have the certificates mentioned is that, if they like the look of your cv/application form, they might be willing to put you forward for the courses to gain the certificates.

 

Worth a try and, if you don't get anywhere, you've at least jumped through the hoops they demanded of you.

 

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It's just all about "jumping through hoops" regardless ..................... just nod and smile! It's what the system demands .... of course it's broken ... it's broken beyond repair - "not fit for purpose" .... but we're all just p®awns in this game.

 

Use the system until you're able to stand on your own two feet .... and you're the only one who can help yourself. DWP won't do it for you ... neither will any W2W programme - their results prove that!

 

I'm applying for work all over the UK .. not just locally ... needs must! And, if I have to move to Edinburgh or Dublin to get a job - c'est la vie! If the work doesn't come to you, you may have to go to the work! Norman Tebbit wasn't all wrong! Except I can't ride a bike!

 

If you don't have any academic qualifications, get some!! Education costs very little if you're on benefits. Last time I was unemployed, I paid £10 to go on an Access Course (Humanities) for a year at a local college - I sat next to my eldest daughter and we had great fun! I passed with distinction and earned enough points to apply for entry to University and ended up with a great Honours degree. I was then 45 and a single parent to four children, one of them with a severe mental disability. So, basically, aim higher!!!! Get qualified and help yourself cos no-one else is going to.

 

Tough love? Yes!!! Always! At least now I have many more opportunities to secure a position commensurate with my abilities.

 

Sometimes you just have to be pro-active and "think outside the box".

 

 

Impecunious! :-)

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Impecunious you are an insperation for us all. I can see you as being a great life coach :-)

Its very true what you say, you have to go out there and get it. We make our own luck in life.

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Impecunious you are an insperation for us all. I can see you as being a great life coach :-)

Its very true what you say, you have to go out there and get it. We make our own luck in life.

 

Thanks dyfed -- I did feel I might have been a bit tough BUT, hey, if you don't get out there and actually make it happen, a job isn't just going to miraculously jump into your lap!

 

I strongly believe that education is the best way to escape poverty and it can become very addictive!! I could never settle for just being a dishwasher ... if we don't have aspirations, what's the point??? Everyone can improve their lot academically. For some it might be basic literacy and numeracy, for others GCSEs, NVQs, A Levels or Degrees.

 

Miss Impecunious! BA (Hons) English with History, Knitter, Crocheter, Crafter and Creative Job Activity Search Recorder! :-)

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I would say you should just apply for the jobs, if they don't consider you for them you'll have a good argument to put forward to the DWP by showing them how many jobs you applied for and you didn't even get an interview. No point in arguing with them, better to show them what you mean with facts even if it's a waste of time, that way it doesn't look like you are in the wrong. I did that when I was claiming after the credit crunch, then discussed it when I had to see the advisor who ended up concurring with me.

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I would say you should just apply for the jobs, if they don't consider you for them you'll have a good argument to put forward to the DWP by showing them how many jobs you applied for and you didn't even get an interview. No point in arguing with them, better to show them what you mean with facts even if it's a waste of time, that way it doesn't look like you are in the wrong. I did that when I was claiming after the credit crunch, then discussed it when I had to see the advisor who ended up concurring with me.[/quote

 

 

Take me out and shoot me if I ever just apply for jobs that I'm not qualified to do to make up numbers!! I can't think of anything more demeaning, demoralising or time-wasting! (Some of the job application forms I've been asked to complete have taken upwards of 3 days each.) Potential employers would think I was totally incapable of reading a person specification or was totally delusional about my abilities to do the job if I applied for jobs I wasn't qualified to do and the application would be filed in the wastepaper bin.

 

There is a very strong distinction between applying for a job that you're not qualified to do and applying for jobs where you meet a large percentage of the requirements of the job and believe you could "upskill" to complete the rest. Employers usually define these as "essential qualities" and "desired qualities" - they allow a certain degree of flexibility for candidates.

 

If I couldn't reach any job application target set by DWP, I'd just smile sweetly and ask if they could advise me on the best way to move forward as I had exhausted all the possibilities within my current area of expertise. After all, they are called "Advisors". No arguments, no confrontation, no stress.

 

As far as I know, JSAg have to be signed by both parties - great time to negotiate. My initial JSAg requires me to make one application per week and undertake six work-related activities per week and and that job search relates to just one specific type of job. I'm sure that my next JSAg will require me to increase my activity and to expand my search area but it's still a negotiation.

 

Onwards and upwards!

 

Impecunious! :-)

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If I was an employer with a vacancy and revieved a wheelbarrow full of applications by unqualified individuals I would be pretty miffed.

I would wonder if applicants could read the job advert and wouldnt advertise through the joke shop (job centre) again.

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