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I would have had to stand in the middle of the road to read this, in fact that's where I was standing when I took the photo. I have pasted the appeal and rejection below. Many thanks for looking. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is my appeal statement: As you can see from the image attached (image 1) I actually paid £18.50 to park my car in Gee st. I parked the car at what I thought was outside 55 Gee st as seen in image 2 attached. When I read the PCN issued it stated there was a parking suspension. There was no suspension notice on the sign that I used to call the payment service outside number 55 Gee st. I looked for a suspension notice and eventually found one which was obscured by a large van and generator parked outside 47 Gee st. As seen in images 3 and 4 attached. I am guessing the parking suspension was to allow the Van to park and sell Pizza during the Clerkenwell design week. I was not obstructing the use or parking of the van, in fact the van was obstructing the suspension notice which meant I could not read or see it without prior knowledge it was there. I would have had to stand in the road to see it endangering myself as I had to to take images to illustrate the hidden notice. As there was no intention to avoid a parking charge and the fact the sign was not easily visible I would hope this challenge can be accepted. Many thanks.   This is the text from the rejection: Thank you for contacting us about the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). The PCN was issued because the vehicle was parked in a suspended bay or space. I note from your correspondence that there was no suspension notice on the sign that you used to call the payment serve outside number 55 Gee Street. I acknowledge your comments, however, your vehicle was parked in a bay which had been suspended. The regulations require the suspension warning to be clearly visible. It is a large bright yellow sign and is erected by the parking bay on the nearest parking plate to the area that is to be suspended. Parking is then not permitted in the bay for any reason or period of time, however brief. The signs relating to this suspension were sited in accordance with the regulations. Upon reviewing the Civil Enforcement Officer's (CEO's) images and notes, I am satisfied that sufficient signage was in place and that it meets statutory requirements. Whilst I note that the signage may have been obstructed by a large van and generator at the time, please note, it is the responsibility of the motorist to locate and check the time plate each time they park. This will ensure that any changes to the status of the bay are noted. I acknowledge that your vehicle possessed a RingGo session at the time, however, this does not authorize parking within a suspended bay. Suspension restrictions are established to facilitate specific activities like filming or construction, therefore, we anticipate the vehicle owner to relocate the vehicle from the suspended area until the specified date and time when the suspension concludes. Leaving a vehicle unattended for any period of time within a suspended bay, effectively renders the vehicle parked in contravention and a Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) may issue a PCN. Finally, the vehicle was left parked approximately 5 metres away from the closest time plate notice. It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they park in a suitable parking place and check all signs and road markings prior to leaving their vehicle parked in contravention. It remains the driver's responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is parked legally at all times. With that being said, I would have to inform you, your appeal has been rejected at this stage. Please see the below images as taken by the CEO whilst issuing the PCN: You should now choose one of the following options: Pay the penalty charge. We will accept the discounted amount of £65.00 in settlement of this matter, provided it is received by 10 June 2024. After that date, the full penalty charge of £130.00 will be payable. Or Wait for a Notice to Owner (NtO) to be issued to the registered keeper of the vehicle, who is legally responsible for paying the penalty charge. Any further correspondence received prior to the NtO being issued may not be responded to. The NtO gives the recipient the right to make formal representations against the penalty charge. If we reject those representations, there will be the right of appeal to the Environment and Traffic Adjudicator.   Gee st pdf.pdf
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if it makes you get your act together I will use any tool in my box.

and believe me that's not an insult..

 

sorry but since day one you made numerous schoolboy errors which you should not be making if you read up on things.

this is a court case remember, one simple mistake by you could sink you.

 

so court date is?

 

time to get on with your WS

 

and we haven't seen any PDF's up yet about this CPR return either

get them up

read upload ONE multipage pdf only please

 

 

 

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Ok. My understanding was that the CPR 31.14 was an expanded version of the POC anyway. Court date: 27th August 2019.

I have been drafting WS and will send mine as I took the photos after the event and the defendent will submit one. And a letter asking if I  can speak.

 

The CPR thingy is enormous so I'll try and get that thing up asap.

 

Not looking for further sympathy but my wife passed away 2 weeks before I joined this site, hence my daughter unable to deal with these bullies. And I also suffer from 'grief brain'. The terminology is new so I can get in a muddle.

 

as always thanks for your help.

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your ( daughters)witness statement will fall into 2 parts, first of all her version of the story and secondly the evidence to support that and rebut their claims.

 

Fior the first aprt you need to consider what to say about what actions were taken on that day and whether it is agreed that the signage was seen and accepted as a contract and then why it wasnt breached. So this is where you can say about what was visible at the entrance to the land and whether they were obvious from a motorists viewpoint and then go into the wording of the signs and why no contract was offered or formed.

 

If you want to use the POFA as your friend you say whay they havent followed the protocols and what that menas and always use other examples from court cases.

 

You then rubbish the substance of their claima nd especially the lazy POC where they ahve decided that keeper/driver are the same when they arent and how the POFA makes it clear that the maximum amount that can be claimed is the amount on the NTK so it is clear that the claim is against the driver by adding all the other supposed contractual costs and therefore proof of the defendant being the driver be provided or the claim be limited to the NTK amount (less 25% for abuse of the Civil Procedure- need to lookup where this penalty applies)

 

In the second part you have maps and plans, photographs and copies of the POFA and all of the cases you refer to. As you know the Parking Parnksters website and blog pages have a lot of cases to use as precedents and others that are persuasive. you must know the difference between the two.

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Dx100uk- scanned the 20 page CPR return from GLADSTONES just having a fiddle about to convert to a multi page PDF

 

Ericsbrother should I not submit a WS about the images I took also?

all points noted and thanks.

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Latest blurb from GLAD STONES

Please find enclosed, by way of service, the Claimants Witness Statement

 

The Assumption is that our client is not attending the hearing and therefore we kindly request this notice be treated as a notice pursuant to CPR 27.9 However on some occasions our Client may wish  to attend and will do so.

 

We confirm the statement has been filed at the court.

 

Seems like they will not turn up and want the court to decide??

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Yes- I've spent 4 months back and forth with this outrage on top of having 'grief brain' 

I went to court physically 2 weeks ago and they suggested I couldn't be a lay rep as I wasn't legally qualified but said I could ask which I have.

 

i hope when we turn up and if we win we can still claim my daughters wages??

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They haven't identified any signs- just said signs.

Plus I didn't think they are supposed to make comments about our WS until the day?

They've gone on about DVLA details and haven't referred to signage at the entrance just the one on site and the fact that she had been to Greggs...

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she can claim £90 lost wages take prrof

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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read up on rights of lay reps, my local court staff confuse them with Mckenzie friends, which are different. Lay reps have to be that so yu cant use a solicitor as a lay rep but you can use a professor of law if you know one.

take a copy of the ruls with you as well as telling the court that you will be attending in that capacity with your daughter so the judge isnt surprised by 2 people asking or answering.

can you post up their WS so we can try and pick holes in it, there is nothing attached to your earlier post

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one multipage pdf only please

read upload

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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then use the websites detailed in upload

its why we wrote the guide

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Gladstones refer to an operator-shouldnt this person be present in court as their witness?

The account of events by operator are completely ficticious. How can we question this?

 

Their witness statement addresses points in our WS. I thought we arrived in court on a level playing field and cross examined there,not before.

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pitfalls of filing yours to early

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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