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    • Welcome to the National Consumer Service Buying any goods or any services??? A used car? - Paying by cash or bank transfer??? - BIG Fail!Share the love – Tell a friend about the Consumer Action Group - your National Consumer ServiceAre you buying a used car...? Protect yourself – read our used car guideESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Twitter - Why you should open a Twitter account ESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Have we helped you today...? Please help the CAG Had a car accident? Been offered a courtesy car?Follow @Real_CAG Parcel Delivery Insurance is Unlawful - The TimesWhy don't you change your profile picture?? Problem with utilities company or phone/broadband? Begin by sending a statutory request for your personal data. 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If you need to add something to this thread then   Please click the "Report " link   at the bottom of one of the posts.   If you want to post a new story then Please Start your own new thread That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help    Thanks   citizenB Posted March 4, 2014 #1   The questionnaires below provide important information which will allow us to help you. In order to use them, you will have to copy them into your own post and then give us the answers – preferably in red below each question. You can start by overwriting the prompt: "Give answer here" below each question – and your responses should automatically appear in red   Thank you +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   You have received a claim form.   firstly - read all the posts in this thread FIRST...   then copy this first msg to your thread - and put your answer after each question   In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us]     Which Court have you received the claim from ? Name County Court   MCOL Northampton N1 ? Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ? New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?   If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)     Name of the Claimant ? Give answer here   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Give answer here   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. Give answer here   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM     Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. state how many digits the account number has.. Give answer here   What is the total value of the claim? Give answer here   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Give answer here   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Give answer here   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? Give answer here Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Give answer here   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? Give answer here   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Give answer here   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Give answer here   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Give answer here   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Give answer here   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Give answer here   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Give answer here   Why did you cease payments? Give answer here   What was the date of your last payment? Give answer here   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Give answer here   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Give answer here   What you need to do now.   Answer the questions above   If you have not already done so – send a CCA request to the claimant for a copy of your agreement (If Applicable) (except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)   Send a CPR31.14 request to the solicitor named on the claim form for copies of documents mentioned/implied within the claim form. There are two different versions - one for Loans/Credit cards the other for Current accounts   Request 1 - Loans/Credit Cards     Request 2 - Current Accounts     You may use a CPR part 18 request for any other information (not request documents) that you might require in order to defend yourself. Please note that CPR 18 is specifically for Fast Track claims and although technically the claim has yet to be allocated to a track the claimant may refuse to comply for this reason.   If you require CPR Part 18 - this will need to be drafted specifically.   If you are not planning on defending for one reason or another – then you will need to complete an Income and Expenditure form and contact the Solicitor with your proposal. The N9a is already enclosed in the claim pack for Admittance which should be sent to the solicitor named on the claim form   If you are considering making a partial admittance N9b must be completed and returned to the court. Please note in most cases a partial admittance will result in an automatic CCJ for the amount admitted.   You have received a Claim - What you need to do.pdf1.33 MB · 242 downloads     Before Printing the PDF TIP   If you DO NOT wish to print Page 1 (Cover Page) of the PDF, please ensure to do the following:   Ensure you go to your Printer Settings and set it to 'Print from Page 2' (this way Page 1 (Cover Page) should not print out).   Note: This will save you Ink & Paper     Bookmark   Report 3 weeks later...   AndyOrch Posted March 20, 2014 #2   Once you receive a Court Summons N1   As a defendant in a small claims case it is important that you act quickly and do not ignore the claim form when it arrives. Remember, the claim will proceed anyway even if you don’t respond. If the claim goes against you, it will be very difficult to make a counter claim as you didn’t respond to the initial small claim.   You may be unaware that you are the defendant in a small claims case that a Creditor has bought against you. When the small claims form arrives follow these initial steps:   1: Read the Form Carefully   The detail about the claim that is being bought against you will be in the ‘particulars of claim’ section. If this section isn't completed, or has the words ‘particulars of claim to follow’ take no action now and wait until you are sent details of the claim against you. You may want to consult a lawyer at this stage.   2: Respond in Time   It’s vitally important that you respond to the claim for you have been sent. Remember that there is a 19 day (5 +14) time limit on this to acknowledge the claim.You must submit before the 19 days are up, so post your response with plenty of time.If your intention is to defend the claim in full you get a further 14 days to submit your response ...so 33 days in total.   3: Talk to the Claimant   Just because a small claim has been bought against you and a claim form issued, this doesn’t mean you are not allowed to contact the claimant directly. In fact the court encourages you to try and settle the claim without the need for a court appearance. So, try and resolve your dispute directly with the claimant if you can.   Not Responding to a Small Claim   If you ignore the small claims form when it arrives this can have an adverse impact on your financial status. The court will continue with the small claims lawsuit that is being bought against you even in your absence as this is a legal requirement. When the small claim is processed you will be sent a bill showing the amount you owe and any additional costs. The small claims against you is a legal process that will be recorded on the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines. This information is used to check your credit, so could have a negative impact when you next apply for any credit. To avoid damaging your credit rating reply to your small claims docket as soon as you can.   How to Respond to Your Small Claims Form   When you received your form from the court you will also have been sent a response pack. In this pack you will see the option that are open to you. These include:   • A dispute claim form. You can use this form if you do not agree that you are liable for the small claim being bought against you and wish to submit a Defence. • Details about how to pay the amount being claimed from you. • Details about how to admit to part of the small claim against you, and how you can ask the claimant for more time to pay.   There are Two Types of Small Claims:   Fixed Amounts:   If the claim against you is for a fixed amount of money your response pack will contain three forms. Form N9 (acknowledgement of Service), form N9A (admission form) and N9B (defence and counterclaim form).   Unspecified Amounts:   If the amount being claimed is unspecified you will be sent forms N9 and N9C (admission form) and N9D (defence and counterclaim form). It is vital that you read the accompanying explanatory notes before choosing which form to send back.   Paying the Small Claim   If you want to make full payment of the amount being claimed against you this amount will be shown on the claim for you have been sent, and will also have details about where to send the money. Don’t forget, this must be done within the 14 day time limit or your case will proceed to the next stage.   In some instances you would like to pay, but need more time, you can give details about the delay you would like on form N9A, which should be in your response pack. It’s also a good idea to read leaflet EX309: The Defendant Admits by claim as this gives more details on this aspect of your case when fixed amounts of money are involved. Leaflet EX308 gives details of cases when unspecified amounts are being claimed against you.   Also please read forms EX326 and EX160A   How to Defend a Claim Against You   Disputed claims are handled by filling in the appropriate form from your response pack. You have three choices: Form N9, N9B or N9D. Read the note accompanying each form carefully to ensure you completely correctly. Pay special attention to the allegations raised on the form. If you don’t respond to each the court will assume you are admitting guilt. Edited April 10, 2014 by stu007 Updated PDF added    1   Bookmark   Report 2 months later...   citizenB   Posted June 5, 2014 #3   PLEASE NOTE - WARNING   Once you have received your claim form - the Court timetable comes into force. Not that of the creditor or claimant. If you have requested information with them after the claim has been issued - or have entered into discussion with them and they say something like "We will put this on hold for a period of time". You cannot and must not ignore the timetable from the court.   This thread should serve as an example   http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?416202&p=4547677#post4547677   The OP in the case above was in communication with the CAG Vodafone rep. A claim was issued during this time. The Rep in good faith said he would ask the Claimant to put things on hold.... they did not.. the OP ignored advice from caggers to continue with the court timetable and did not submit a defence. The claimaint obtained a Judgment by default. Edited June 5, 2014 by citizenB     Bookmark   Report 3 yr AndyOrch changed the title to You have received a Court Claim ISSUED IN ENGLAND & WALES What you need to do   style="text-align: center;">     Thread Locked because no one has posted on it for the last 3638 days. 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I agree with BA

post 24 Bankruptcy is something the council can use.

and as stated the limit before proceedings can be taken, is now £5000,

I think it was £700 before.

 

With regards to the Bailiff threatening Bankruptcy this quite a common threat along with Committal to prison,

It is not up to the EA if this happens.

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Bankruptcy is one of the steps that the local authority can take with council tax arrears. However, given the increase in bankruptcy levels, the debt needs to be over £5,000.

 

Yes but not by a bailff using schedule 12 procedure.

 

It would be another enforcment path. An ea using sched 12 would not return the order after the seven day notice was sent.

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I agree with BA

post 24 Bankruptcy is something the council can use.

and as stated the limit before proceedings can be taken, is now £5000,

I think it was £700 before.

 

With regards to the Bailiff threatening Bankruptcy this quite a common threat along with Committal to prison,

It is not up to the EA if this happens.

 

Yes I agree they promise anything, not so often in writing though

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This confirms they do use threatening behaviours to coerce payment as mentioned previously, though as DB rightly states, it is not so often they put this in writing.

 

The OP has been asked quite a few questions now, and appears to post very late at night, so perhaps it is best to wait until they return again to see what they say.

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First of all this is definately for council tax arrears, not business rates, my premises is exempt.

 

I have contacted the council this morning, and they say that this enforcement went out to another company August 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. However they sent it back to the council last month saying they could not contact me. How is this possible I have had cars parked outside my house, I have been living in the house, but have heard nothing at all from any bailiff company before. Wouldn't they have taken my cars? Anyway they then instructed Dukes to make an attempt at my place of work. They admit the business address error, but don't know why it happened.

 

As my business has really suffered over the last 2 years, and I nearly got evicted, I did apply for help with my council tax in November last year, but they made is so difficult, because I was self employed that I gave up eventually. Don't know whether this has any bearing on anything.

 

The exact wording of the letter is this

 

Final Notice: Council Tax Arrears

 

An Enforcement Agent (bailiff) has visited you home again today.

Your possessions are now at risk of being REMOVED.

 

Despite numver attempts to contact you we have still not received satisfactory response about you Council Tax Arrears

 

An Enforcement Agent (bailiff) has visited you home again today to take control of your goods and remove them for sale.

 

If you debt is not settled within 7 days of the date above, we will return your case with one of the following recommendations

 

Attachment of Earnings - taking the funds from you at source

Bankrupcy - this will affect your credit rating

Charging order on your property - your could be forced to sell you home

Commital - you could go to prison

 

FAILURE TO CONTACT US WILL BE TAKEN AS YOUR REFUSAL TO PAY.

 

At the top of the letter is the Dukes Refence, then Client Reference where it says Balance Due Today it is blank and where it says date is left blank.

 

There is 2 copies of this letter in the envelope, both exactly the same exept for one has my home address writen across it in pen.

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Hi

 

First of all this is definately for council tax arrears, not business rates, my premises is exempt.

 

I have contacted the council this morning, and they say that this enforcement went out to another company August 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. However they sent it back to the council last month saying they could not contact me. How is this possible I have had cars parked outside my house, I have been living in the house, but have heard nothing at all from any bailiff company before. Wouldn't they have taken my cars? Anyway they then instructed Dukes to make an attempt at my place of work. They admit the business address error, but don't know why it happened.

 

As my business has really suffered over the last 2 years, and I nearly got evicted, I did apply for help with my council tax in November last year, but they made is so difficult, because I was self employed that I gave up eventually. Don't know whether this has any bearing on anything.

 

The exact wording of the letter is this

 

Final Notice: Council Tax Arrears

 

An Enforcement Agent (bailiff) has visited you home again today.

Your possessions are now at risk of being REMOVED.

 

Despite numver attempts to contact you we have still not received satisfactory response about you Council Tax Arrears

 

An Enforcement Agent (bailiff) has visited you home again today to take control of your goods and remove them for sale.

 

If you debt is not settled within 7 days of the date above, we will return your case with one of the following recommendations

 

Attachment of Earnings - taking the funds from you at source

Bankrupcy - this will affect your credit rating

Charging order on your property - your could be forced to sell you home

Commital - you could go to prison

 

FAILURE TO CONTACT US WILL BE TAKEN AS YOUR REFUSAL TO PAY.

 

At the top of the letter is the Dukes Refence, then Client Reference where it says Balance Due Today it is blank and where it says date is left blank.

 

There is 2 copies of this letter in the envelope, both exactly the same exept for one has my home address writen across it in pen.

 

 

Is the house owned or rented ?

 

Is the ammount owed over £5000 ?

 

Do they no know your home address ? If you suspect they do you must remove all vehicles from in front of your house or on your drive away from the house or park on a neighbors drive.

 

Do you know what the judgment sum was on this debt ? The bill you have should contain fees which will drop off if the order goes back.

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If as it says on their letter, they visited my home why did they not post the letter there.

 

Perhaps they have the wrong home address ?

 

You need to tell them and the council that you have received no notices either from drakes (or the previous bailiff ?)

 

That in itself should stop the enforcment. The notices are required before any enforcement action.

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Hi

 

First of all this is definately for council tax arrears, not business rates, my premises is exempt.

 

I have contacted the council this morning, and they say that this enforcement went out to another company August 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. However they sent it back to the council last month saying they could not contact me. How is this possible I have had cars parked outside my house, I have been living in the house, but have heard nothing at all from any bailiff company before. Wouldn't they have taken my cars?

 

Anyway they then instructed Dukes to make an attempt at my place of work. They admit the business address error, but don't know why it happened.

 

By coincidence, I have been assisting a couple today who thought that the enforcement company would have returned their debt back to the council by now so that they could pay the council tax direct to the council and therby evoid paying bailiff fees. The enforcement company have done no such thing and enforcment is continuing six months later !!! In light of other similar enquiries, I will be amending previous advice and will be telling debtors that an account would very likely not be returned to the council for approx 4-6 months.

 

You have also highlighted another area that has been debated on here. When an enforcement company return an account they do not write to the debtor !!

 

Is the council tax debt in relation to your current address? If not, this could explain the absence of previous correspondence.

 

What is your employment status (ie: self employed or employed)?

 

How much is the amount that Dukes are seeking from you?

 

PS: OOPS...I was typing without realising that another poster has asked some similar questions.

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Sorry couldn't amend the above. I meant perhaps they had the wrong home address.

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PS: OOPS...I was typing without realising that another poster has asked some similar questions.

 

Its OK the grammar is better in yours.

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Is the house owned or rented ?

 

Is the ammount owed over £5000 ?

 

Do they no know your home address ? If you suspect they do you must remove all vehicles from in front of your house or on your drive away from the house or park on a neighbors drive.

 

Do you know what the judgment sum was on this debt ? The bill you have should contain fees which will drop off if the order goes back.

 

House is owned, definately not over £5000. Yes they know my home address it was on one of the letters. One car is an old van, they can take that if they want, I can't get rid of it. The other car is one I use for business which is only worth about £900, so they can't take that as it is esscential to the running of my business. But I can park it elsewhere. The council lady did a lot of uming and erring, when I asked. She was not sure whether this years would be added on as once you become behind the whole year becomes due, so if one year £1200 if two Years £2400. The amount owed on the letter was left blank as was the date.

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Sorry couldn't amend the above. I meant perhaps they had the wrong home address.

 

My home address was added in pen to one of the copies of the letters, but perhaps the previous bailiffs had the wrong address.

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By coincidence, I have been assisting a couple today who thought that the enforcement company would have returned their debt back to the council by now so that they could pay the council tax direct to the council and therby evoid paying bailiff fees. The enforcement company have done no such thing and enforcment is continuing six months later !!! In light of other similar enquiries, I will be amending previous advice and will be telling debtors that an account would very likely not be returned to the council for approx 4-6 months.

 

You have also highlighted another area that has been debated on here. When an enforcement company return an account they do not write to the debtor !!

 

Is the council tax debt in relation to your current address? If not, this could explain the absence of previous correspondence.

 

What is your employment status (ie: self employed or employed)?

 

How much is the amount that Dukes are seeking from you?

 

PS: OOPS...I was typing without realising that another poster has asked some similar questions.

 

I am self employed, and the council tax is for this address.

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The lady on the council was not in the least bothered about sending them to the wrong business address, and although they admitted this, she said it was not a preach of data protection in any way. When I said that the bailiff had walked around asked if anyone knew me and that they had given detials out over the phone to the company they sent the letter to in error. Her response was well they managed to contact you, and that is what we pay them for.

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Dukes have not stated the amount, it is the council who says it could be 2400 if they decide to add on all of this years.

 

As you are self employed (and therefore not on a employers payroll), an attachment of earnings cannot be applied.

 

The council may only add this year's (2016/17) debt if they have been granted a Liability Order.

 

Very few Liability Orders have been granted by the courts for arrears of this year's council tax (2016/17). Have you received a summons yet?

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Hi BA

 

By coincidence, I have been assisting a couple today who thought that the enforcement company would have returned their debt back to the council by now so that they could pay the council tax direct to the council and therby evoid paying bailiff fees. The enforcement company have done no such thing and enforcment is continuing six months later !!! In light of other similar enquiries, I will be amending previous advice and will be telling debtors that an account would very likely not be returned to the council for approx 4-6 months.

 

Well you may have to alter the time scale a bit more, As I have been with Newlyns since the beginning,of September, But have only had 1 visit at 5am, and a lot of threatening letters.

 

Sorry for the off topic post

 

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Yes indeed. A charge on the house may be an option for them, if they have a liability order, the procedure is that they apply to the county court who will issue and interim order and give a date for a hearing to make it permanent. That would depend on what equity was on the proerty and what other charges you may have.

 

The exemption applies to tools or vehicles which, if they were absent would remove the debtors ability to perform his work.

 

This will not be just to take you to work.

 

The other option for them is to issue a warrant for committal, this initially will require you to attend the magistrates court and explain why you have not made a repayment on the debt.

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I will speak to the council again next week. When the more senior person comes off her holiday.

 

In the mean time are Dukes likely to call at my workplace again, or will it just go back to the council after 7 days as per the letter.

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I will speak to the council again next week. When the more senior person comes off her holiday.

 

In the mean time are Dukes likely to call at my workplace again, or will it just go back to the council after 7 days as per the letter.

 

I should think it will be a distinct possibility they will call at your home, usual procedure lock doors and keep cars and anything valuable outside under lock and key. unlikely they will call at your work.

 

After seven days if it goes back, and is closed, they cannot call.

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Just a thought, but if you drive your car to work, do not park it on a road where they may spot it..

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Dukes have not stated the amount, it is the council who says it could be 2400 if they decide to add on all of this years.

 

To add this years you would have had to have defaulted on payment and they obtain another Liability Order against you.

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In your shoes I would be making complaints as the Council do not appear to have a clue what they are talking about. At best Dukes are being evasive as they will have been instructed by the Council to collect £XXX. Have you thought about contacting your local Councillor(s) - do it over the weekend and they can attack this for you first thing Monday morning - best initial contact is by phone.

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