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Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
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Done for benefit fraud - can i find who shopped me?


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hi

i was last year prosecuted for benefit fraud

 

 

i hold my hands up and took what i had coming no one else to blame but me,

 

 

i was wondering the person who reported me did so by letter,

 

 

is there any way i could get this letter or a copy of it so i could see who it was who reported me

even if it wasn't sign just it could be someone i know,

 

 

i don't know but does the freedom of information act or data protection act anyway of getting these or this letter, from the dwp.

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You could try submitting a subject access request and asking for all information relating to the investigation, but I suspect you would not get a copy of this letter if it exists.

 

A F.o.I. request can not be used for personal information, only a SAR under the DPA.

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Even if they did submit to you the letter the personal data would be redacted.

 

If you admit to wrongdoing then why would you care who reported you. Sounds like you seek vengeance for getting dobbed in?

 

Best advice anyone can give you is to accept what has happened and move on.

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To answer your question, no your lawyer will not be able to get it. There is no reason to release it but lots not to.

 

Often the letters that come in are typed and anon anyway.

 

Move on. You did wrong and admitted it. What do you hope to do by getting it?

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nothing but thanks for every ones replies. i don't intend doing anything illegal just wondered if i could maybe recognise the writing.

 

I agree an SAR would fail.

Exemptions for both third parties (identifiers would be redacted) and for 'prevention of crime' would apply.

 

If you aren't going to use it to act against the individual, either deliberately or unconsciously : why do you want their identity?

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nothing but thanks for every ones replies. i don't intend doing anything illegal just wondered if i could maybe recognise the writing.

 

Hello there.

 

It seems to me you aren't going to get hold of this information. My understanding is that the reporting system is anonymous, otherwise people might not report benefit fraud.

 

I'm afraid I don't see what you would gain from knowing who reported you.

 

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Ok, I can kind of see and understand. If this happened to me, I would LIKE to see who shopped me just to see if it was someone I truly thought was a friend just to was my mind I guess. The problem is that there are people that would seek vengeance out there, so rules and laws are in place to stop that happening. The reporting of benefits fraud is anonymous.

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Hi Ellena,

 

A SAR is a request for data held about you and it would not require the disclosure of specific documents, such as an informant's letter.

 

As others have said, there are almost certainly measures in place to prevent you from getting info about an informant.

 

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I too can understand your need to know who it was that "shopped" you, as a similar thing happened to an old mate of mine years ago.

 

It did her head in, as she tried to work out who it was & it was all she could talk about, she even confronted someone, which ended badly.

 

It was not nice to watch her become mistrustful & isolate herself from our group of friends. She blamed everyone from her neighbours to her friends & family, as no matter what she wanted revenge....

 

Sad thing is, as she never found out who it was, she eventually moved far away & I never heard from her again.

 

So from my little experience of seeing what she went through, I can only imagine what your going through.

 

It's happened, you cant change this fact, you have held your hands up & taken whatever came next. Please don't let it spoil your life.

 

As others have said, move on from it & accept its an event in your life that's not going to define to you!

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It looks like Miss An Ony Mous shopped, that is all you will ever find out.

 

No solicitor or court order will be able to obtain a copy of the referral letter, if it still exits.

 

We tend to destroy the letters once evidence is obtained to back up the referral so that it doesn't get shown at interview by accident or copied into the court papers, as handwriting and content can often tip the customer off.

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i can understand why you are annoyed at the fact someone "shopped" you

 

but at the end of the day, you were the one at fault - and by "shopping" you, they have kind of done you a favour - as they have reduced the amount incorrectly claimed and helped you avoid getting a more serious outcome

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There are many ways that Fraud can be discovered. How do you even know how your Fraud was identified? It may not have come from an anonymous source at all and may have been from a Data Match - which are where most Frauds are identified nowadays.

 

As stated above, most frauds are reported anonymously anyway, but even if someone did provide their name, this information would be treated as 'sensitive' by the courts and legal system, and a defence would not have access to this part of the file anyway.

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