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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
    • Thanks, I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today. Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.
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Hello I have been enduring jacobes for many months now and it has ruined my quality of life every moment of the day I cannot stop thinking about what they are doing to me and my health,and now my major concern is that I don't work many hours well 2hrs a week cleaning and leaflet delivery round combining them both gives me around £150.00 per month £90 of which jacobs insist is paid every month in fact forced me to pay otherwise they would clear me out now my situation is such I have to go without food and drink for up to three or four days sometimes and I have even resulted in eating cat food because I so hungry I live in house on my own family moved away along time ago and they cannot help also I have many days without electricityas I,m on pre-payment with this I,m concerned about the coming winter as I just won't have the money to keep warm it has really terrified me the thought of this even to the degree of ending it all no Jacobs just dont want to listern to my situation what so ever every time I try to reason with them they just pile on the threats and misery well I just cannot cope with it anymore I want to end it all but I feel in the back of my mind there may be a way to recieve some help, I even tried signing on but I was told I would not recieve anything due to the lack of contributions this has also added to this dire situation which has also made me very ill with my nerves I,m weak throught and don't have any fight left in me anymore I cannot even buy myself nice things anymore its so depressing somebody PLEASE HELP I NEED SOME POSITIVE ADVICE BEFORE ITS TIME TO CALL IT A DAY. Now surely Jacobs cannot get awawy with this type of foreceful action I just don't know what to do anymore I,m convinced they wont be happy until they recieve notification of my death beleave me I,m feeling pretty close to making that descision if I cannot get some compassion from them to understand how serious my financial situation really is SOMEBODY HELP ME FIND A BETTER SOLUTION.

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Hi

 

Don't worry...the guys will be along to help as soon as they are available.

 

Can you tell us the type of debt please i.e. council tax, fine etc.

 

I have also moved you to the Bailiff forum where you will get the best help.

 

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We need to know why they are attending as the advice can differ for different debts.

 

I would assume it is for Council Tax and would also hazard a guess because you are paying in instalments they have been in your home and levied on your goods, or has levied on something outside. It may be that the levy they have made is not lawful for one reason or another - insufficient goods, exempt goods etc. If this is the case can you let us know what goods have been levied on exactly as described on any Notice of Seizure they have left you.

 

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Hi,

 

Can I ask? Have you any disabilities/illness or an 'older person'. There are lots of organisations out there that advocate and assist people who are struggling. There is always the CAB too (in regard for services and benefits available to you),

 

It sounds like you are finding things very difficult at present. No one deserves to feel as you describe. Have you talked to your GP about your low mood?

 

I'm not that savvy on bailiff issues but I work for a charity in an advocacy role, so I know there are organisations there which will help in that respect.

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Thanks for replying I am very grateful with your words of kindness but it does not change anything I,m still living with this dilema day in day out I just want some of my life back this whole council tax thing has taken away my quality of life all I,m looking for is being able to pay an installment that I can feel comfortable with and enable me to live and eat and keep healthy I cannot beleave in this modern world a company like Jacobs can let this happen to anybody everybody must have some quality of life with me this is not the case I feel I have been singled out and made a target for total destruction, I just need some positive action some direction that can offer me hope I need Jacobs to understand my situation and know how difficult things are for me lets face it If I do get driven to do something stupid they just dont get there money so its in there best interest to listern to me and work with me and understand that I cannot afford £90.00 per month I just need to have some hope I have come on here with the knowledge that someone professional can give me guidance I hope this can be the case I therefore look forward to some feedback in the coming days.

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hi and welcome

 

YOU MUST STOP PAYING JACOBS and start paying the council on-line (an amount you can afford )

 

did you let the bailiff into your home to levy goods

 

can you please tell us exactly what goods the bailiff levied

what charges the bailiff has put on the notice of seizure

what outstanding council tax balance the bailiff has put on the notice of seizure

 

how much have you paid so far to Jacobs

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This debt is for council tax and for me to make a payment every month on the 16th to Jacobs if payment is a day late the arrangement is stopped and my goods taken away and I only recieve £70 per month from a part time cleaning job and £90 per month from a leaflet delivery position all this money is spoken for on other priority debts water sewage etc, when ever I speak to Jacobs they just get aggressive with me and increase my payment amount even though they are aware of how much I have to live on I just don't know what to do anymore I just don't have any life left in me anymore I'm so very depressed and feel so very alone I just want to stop waking up to this everyday because each day gets harder I don't see anyway to stop drowning with all this its only a matter of time?

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hi and welcome

 

YOU MUST STOP PAYING JACOBS and start paying the council on-line (an amount you can afford )

 

did you let the bailiff into your home to levy goods

 

can you please tell us exactly what goods the bailiff levied

what charges the bailiff has put on the notice of seizure

what outstanding council tax balance the bailiff has put on the notice of seizure

 

how much have you paid so far to Jacobs

 

could you please answer these questions the answers you give will enable us to help you

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Please try and stay positive. You will get through this.

 

As I understand the law, you cannot be sent to jail for being unable to pay tax. You could for evasion, and things like that - but not having the wherewithall to pay - that's not something you can be punished for.

 

So - what is the worst case scenario, if you stop paying them? What can they do to you? Try and take your TV, or your hi-fi? They can't leave you without furniture like a bed, a cooker, some chairs, so even if they levy your goods, they can't leave you completely stranded.

 

Can you live without a TV until you get back on your feet? That is the worst that can possibly happen. If you go to a car boot sale you can get onther one for a fiver.

 

If it were me, I would stop paying them, and write and tell them. They can then do whatever they think they can. BUt you will come out of this - it's just a temporary situation which will get resolved one way or another.

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Hi, I'm really sorry to hear of the position you're in. I know it's much easier said than done, but PLEASE try to stay positive. There are many people on here with the knowledge to help you get through this - AND YOU WILL.

 

Are there no benefits you can claim? Perhaps there is a Benefits Advisor who can help, attatched to your local CAB, or perhaps try an online benefits calculator. Also, please seek help from your doctor. Tiredness, depression and worry can overtake your life very quickly, and you'll find it so much harder to cope with things. Once you begin to take control of the smaller things, you'll be able to take control of it all, and get your life back the way you want it. If you really do feel that everything is lost, talk to the Samaritans; it's what they're there for. Sometimes just getting it off your chest is a help, and it can start to put things in perspective. I know these are only words, but everyone has to start somewhere. Even knowing there are people out here who care about what happens to you (and we do!) is a start........just a small one!

 

You're not alone, and we will help. Give us the informtion we need to advise you, act on the advice and you'll get it sorted. Then you'll be able to help others who go through the same situation.

 

Take care of yourself.

 

Best wishes

Janie

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Thankyou for your kind words I'm afraid I have tried the benefits route to due to poor contributions I,m not entitled to a penny due to lack of contributions also the council will not listern its all in the hands of Jacobs when it comes to making installments and they just won't listern pretty much **** street for me at the end of the day.

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I dont have these things as I sold them to pay them all I have is a camping stove my roof over my head and limited amounts of furniture even had to sell my much prized record collection which broke my heart something I was forced into doing with my hands tied jacobs are heartless and evil and lack any compassion what can I do I have tried so many avenues I,m so tied and too weak to fight this anymore

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could you please answer these questions the answers you give will enable us to help you

Now if I did this they would come down on me straight away this is what they want I just want to lower my installments and to be able to live and eat again without worry doing this just plays into hands I know you mean well but this action has been tried before with very negative outcome.

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they have not levied my goods as yet but have threatend to take stuff away anyway if I default on this installment of £90.00 per month they just turn the screw every time and treat me with total contempt nothing as bad as it seems you say beleave me this is bad this is hell this is a bottomless shaft with no margine for recovery and jacobs dont give a hoot about my mental health and well being they have made that very clear over the phone recently there staff are the lowest of the low how do they sleep at night is what concerns me Thanks for the advice anyway but this will not work.

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So, if you tell them you're all out of cash and have no assets, and you aren't going to pay them anything else - what can they do? No-one in this country should ever be reduced to eating cat food. They have already pushed you too far. I don't see they have any power over you.

 

By the way - you have access to a computer? Check out the Trussell Trust if you are low on food. They collect donations of food at supermarkets and offer them to people in hardship so they don't go hungry - all brand new unopened food given by the public.

 

There are lots of ways to make life more bearable when you hit hard times. Try freecycle for free goods people want to give away. Try your local LETS trading scheme for goods and services for free - you have to offer something in return though but it can be anything from guitar lessons to helping someone with gardening.

 

And have you definitely claimed all the housing ben you are entitled to? And council tax benefit?

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If there is no levy on your goods (the bailiff hasn't been in your house) they HAVE NO CONTROL OR POWER OVER YOU

you DO NOT have to let the bailiff into your home you keep your door locked and windows closed pay the council on-line an amount you can afford

 

you do not need to have any contact with the bailiff you do not need to speak to him or answer the door to him (if you need to correspond with him do it by text )

 

even if you are not entitled to JSA you should stil send a council tax and rent rebate form to the council

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Have you actually let them into your house? If they have not levied goods they cannot take them, simple as that. I know that doesn't stop them threatening it, though. I'm truly sorry there seems no way to help you unless you give us some specifics, and I understand the reason behind your reluctance to do so. It's a bit of a Catch-22, isn't it - you have to make that leap of faith in order to get Jacobs to stop this monstrous behaviour but you're worried it will make things worse. Please ask yourself - could it really be much worse than it is now? Pardon me for saying this, but you appear to be at rock bottom now. If you trust us to help, things could be much, much better.

 

Anyway, please look after yourself.

 

Best wishes

Janie

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Edward do as hallow suggests keep the bailiff out pay the council, and issue a Formal Complaint as to their harassment, copy it to your MP and councillor if they have no levy, £42.50 is all they can have, bet you have paid over the odds to these vermin, so the Acme bailiffs letter to Jacobs and request to council for what is owed as per hallow, then we can see what unlawful fees they have added, fees they are not entitled to without a valid levy

 

. I can corroborate what a nasty and obnoxious shower Jacobs are, from an experience I had with them as a third party who encountered one of their cockroaches who was levying a car then wanted my parked motor also.

 

Edward rest a little easier you are among friends here, who can help you sort this.

 

send this to Jacroaches

 

"From:

My Name

My Address

 

To:

Acme bailifflink3.gif Co

Bailiff House

 

Ref: Account No: 123456

 

Dear Sir

 

With reference to the above account, Can you please provide me with a breakdown of the charges.

 

This includes:

a - the time & date of any Bailiff action that incurred a Fee.

b - the reason for the fee.

c - the name(s) of the Bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a Fee was charged.

d - the name(s) of the Court(s) the Bailiff(s) was/were certificatedlink3.gif at.

e - the date of the Certification.

 

This is not a Subject access requestlink3.gif under the Data Protection Act S7 1998 so does not incur a fee of £10. You are obliged to provide this information.

 

I require this information within 14 days.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Ripped off customer"

 

And ask the council

 

How many liability orders the hold for you

How much on each one

When obtained

When passed to Jacroaches for enforcement.

 

Bet the figures will differ wildly.

 

Once we know Caggers can help you challenge any fees over and above what are legal that jacobs have applied to your account.

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I was out of work for over two years and I was doing a leaflet delivery job cash in hand jacobs agreed to £20 a month I then got a pt cleaning job that was working 10 hours per week then the hours got taken away due the clients cutting back this went down to 2hrs per week I informed jacobs of change of circumstances but they insisted my installment increased even though I had taken a drastic drop on the amount coming in they have even said if I don't pay this month on time I will have it increased to £200 a month now how do they work that out when I dont even earn that much to start with this is getting all too complicated I'm going to try and sign on again even if it means just getting my stamp paid at least I will something in writing to say I,m looking for work and that I,m on low wage surely they have to take notice of this when you ask specifics what do you need to know I'm confused well its all this bull**** that I have been subjected too recently I do appreciate what you are saying but I find this all such dilema and a mental strain please understand this I just need the right amunition to fire back at Jacobs with so that they have to listern and take on what I'm saying if that makes any sense.

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Trying to reason with the bailiffs is often a battle. They often won't listen.

 

The first thing to do, I think, is stop paying them. Look after yourself. Let them worry about the debt - it's their problem, right? If they owed you money - then you would need to worry!

 

They really can't do much to you. If you can sign on, and I agree you should, you may then get some protection from the council. It would be a good start in my opinion.

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Trying to reason with the bailiffs is often a battle. They often won't listen.

 

The first thing to do, I think, is stop paying them. Look after yourself. Let them worry about the debt - it's their problem, right? If they owed you money - then you would need to worry!

 

They really can't do much to you. If you can sign on, and I agree you should, you may then get some protection from the council. It would be a good start in my opinion.

Definitely follow Jamberson on this one, as JSA would ground Council Tax benefit, and the council could deduct a nominal amount from benefit and the bailiff can go swivel.

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Definitely follow Jamberson on this one, as JSA would ground Council Tax benefit, and the council could deduct a nominal amount from benefit and the bailiff can go swivel.

 

yep I would advise the council of what your doing though, let them know that your ill and if you can pay them a small amount say £1 do that

My views are based on experience I would always urge you to do some further research and if in doubt seek legal advice.

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I think the OP said they had not paid enough contributions either for JSA or pension however if they contact the council and their income is that low they may be entitled to income support or tax credits

My views are based on experience I would always urge you to do some further research and if in doubt seek legal advice.

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