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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton   MCOL Northampton N1 ? Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ? New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?   If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form.   This has been uploaded in my previous messages in the bundle of documents     Name of the Claimant ? Asset Link Capital (NO5) Limited   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to./   14/02/2020   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total Not relevant as his claim was set aside, and has now been brought to the court again by the claimant       Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please see bundle of documents in previous thread   What is the total value of the claim? £10,734.1    Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  Yes - this is one of the grounds for getting it set aside   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ?  Apparently 2000   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? I do not recall entering into an agreement with Barclays   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ?  It was, but it is not anymore   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned to Asset Link   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? No - although they have provided a copy of the assignment notice in their bundle of docs for the hearing   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? I don't remember - but again a copy of a letter has been provided (see bundle on previous thread)   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  No    Why did you cease payments?  2015   What was the date of your last payment? December 2015   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved?  I wrote to Barclaycard back in 2015 to ask them to send proof of the original agreement but they just sent me a reconstituted document which had no personal deals on relating to me   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? yes - step change took control and set up payments of £1 pm
    • I have had no such luck getting the tickets cancelled. So more help would be greatly appreciated. I have debt recovery letters now. I guess I ignore these and only respond when there is court proceedings?
    • On MCOL there are 2 times the case stay is lifted. Once between filing the defence and them submitting a DQ, and then again between them submitting the DQ and the court issuing one to the defendant.   Is that normal or is there anything I should be aware of?   Thanks as always 
    • It's difficult to advise what to do because there are so many ifs and buts. In the majority of cases where a PPC start a court claim they go all the way to the final hearing. However, in a minority of cases, and by no means a tiny minority, they have no real intention of going all the way to a final hearing. They know their case is rubbish and they know it will cost them a hefty wad to send a solicitor to court (remember solicitors' costs are capped at £50 at small claims).  They pretend they are going all the way to court to intimidate the motorist into giving in.  Yes, the pretence often includes paying the hearing fee.  Yes, UKPC often do this.  And no, they haven't produced a WS (so far). I suppose it depends on how much you have spent on flights (and accommodation?) and if this is refundable v the approx £250 at stake if you lose the case.
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Just for record, back in the days when it was a well run family firm (prior to CCS' collections acquisition) Birchalls bailiffs Ltd actually used to issue guidance on the back of their distress warrents stating that tools could NOT be taken unless the debt related to non domestic rates.

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Am I right that it has taken over 2 months to get a response from ACEA ?

 

It has taken over 2 months but not without contact. I first wrote to the ACEA 20th July. I received an acknowledgement within the appropiate time, then a request for further info (2nd Aug) then a letter stating that they were waiting for a report from JBW. In my response 2nd Aug I sent copies to ACEA of reply I had from JBW,. statement from bailiff, breakdown of charges etc. In the final letter received from ACEA (21st Sept) they sent me copies of the report they received from JBW and it was exactly the same thing I had already sent to ACEA on the 2nd Aug.

I am now waiting for a reply (27th Sept post above) gave them 7 days in which to responed.

 

In my original complaint to JBW/ACEA I made a referrence to 'Culligan v Marstons' case, in the reply from ACEA 21st Sept they stated as follows:

I do not believe that this case is of any assistance to you for the following reasons:

1. That case is a county court case which has no binding effect on any other court.

2. That case predominantly centred upon a charge made from immobilisation which did not happen in your case. (I don't no this for sure, the vehicle could have been clamped while the bailiff was waiting for the tow truck).

3. One of the other features of that case was that the bailiff was found not to have allowed any time for payment between seizure of the vehicle

and its removel. My understanding of your case was that you had the opportunity to pay before the removel of your vehicle but the part payment you offered was not acceptable. (when I returned home the tow truck was already there and the rear wheels of my van were already off the ground. Could this be that the vehicle had already been seized before I was given the opportunity to pay.)

 

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Can anyone help. I am now in the process of taking court action and done a search on the certified bailiff register, but the bailiff concerned in my case does not appear. In the response from JBW they claim that the bailiff no longer works for them.

 

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send tomtubby a PM if you need help she is the best person to help you if you are taking court action against JBW

 

 

 

If you phone the Ministry of Justice Public Register of bailiffslink3.gif on 020 3334 6355 they will confirm if xxxx has ever been a bailiff with JBW(or if he has ever been certificated as a bailiff) and the dates of his employment with them

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send tomtubby a PM if you need help she is the best person to help you if you are taking court action against JBW

 

 

 

If you phone the Ministry of Justice Public Register of bailiffslink3.gif on 020 3334 6355 they will confirm if xxxx has ever been a bailiff with JBW(or if he has ever been certificated as a bailiff) and the dates of his employment with them

 

Just called the Ministry of Justice and they confirmed that the bailiff concerned is regisiterd as a self empolyed bailiff.

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Just called the Ministry of Justice and they confirmed that the bailiff concerned is registered as a self employed bailiff.

 

 

now you need to get in touch with the council and find out if they allow there contractors JBW to use self employed bailiffs

 

 

a lot of councils have it written into there contract that the bailiff firm cant use self employed bailiffs

 

have you named the council as joint defendants as you should be taking both JBW and the council to court

 

 

can someone advise if the op can send a freedom of information request to the council for a copy of this contract I THINK i have seen tomtubby refer to it as a service Level agreement

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Yes, the council will provide their service level agreement / Code of conduct for bailiffs. Makes interesting reading and in my case did say no subcontracted bailiffs which I would read as no self employed either.

 

You must include the council as co defendant and would also make a formal complaint, escalate through their stages and then take it to the Government ombudsman who will take notice of it.

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Yes, the council will provide their service level agreement / Code of conduct for bailiffs. Makes interesting reading and in my case did say no subcontracted bailiffs which I would read as no self employed either.

 

You must include the council as co defendant and would also make a formal complaint, escalate through their stages and then take it to the Government ombudsman who will take notice of it.

 

Called the council today, and they have requested that any info I need has to be made in writing, so a letter is in the post today.

 

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Update. Well it's taken a long time but finally had a reply from the ACEA. They cannot find any grounds upon which to uphold my complaint, due to the fact that there was no signs on the van to indicate that the vehicle was a trade vehicle and that no tools were visible inside the vehicle and that the vehicle is insured for both bussiness and social, domestic and pleasure purposes, indicates that the vehicle is not an exempt vehicle.

So before I proceed with court action I have written again to the ACEA to ask them to provide any legal information that requires my van to be sign written in order for it to be classed as a trade vehicle, and also to explain how the bailiff could not see any tools or equipment inside a locked vehicle that has no windows.

 

Well time has passed and as expected the ACEA have not replied to my request above. Gave them 7 days in which to reply and it has now been over 2 weeks so will now continue with court action once a hear back from the local authority concerned.

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Just called the Ministry of Justice and they confirmed that the bailiff concerned is registered as a self employed bailiff.

 

 

now you need to get in touch with the council and find out if they allow there contractors JBW to use self employed bailiffs

 

 

a lot of councils have it written into there contract that the bailiff firm cant use self employed bailiffs

 

have you named the council as joint defendants as you should be taking both JBW and the council to court

 

 

can someone advise if the op can send a freedom of information request to the council for a copy of this contract I THINK i have seen tomtubby refer to it as a service Level agreement

 

 

Letter arrived today 8th Nov and the council have confirmed that it does not allow its bailiff contractors to use self employed bailiffs.

 

So what does this mean, is the process (in my case) null and void and/ illeagal........

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

I don't think we recommend doing that, gasbo, could cause further problems.

 

This thread is 9 years old, by the way.

 

Best, HB

 

well i did it and it didnt cause me any further problems...kept the lock as a souvenir...direct action is sometimes better than legalese nonsense

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well i did it and it didnt cause me any further problems...kept the lock as a souvenir...direct action is sometimes better than legalese nonsense

 

Up until the point where you discover you were seen to do it, and get a conviction for criminal damage ......

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