I've just been over and read it. Fantastic result. I have been kicking up such a fuss in the back ground that i think the directors will have to get my tickets cancelled. I'll let you know when it's official.

There are about 10 signs around the car park and I've checked them, they are all the same as the one I've previously posted.

The sign is outside in the car park on a fence. There are a few of them around, I thought they were all the same. I will check tomorrow and see if any of the other signs are different. Thanks for all your help.

Thanks lolerz. I have ignored these 2, wish I had ignored the other 3.

Here is the other ticket I ignored. Both only have one side A4 printed on (nothing on the back) IgnoredTicket-2.pdf

Here is one of the tickets I ignored IgnoredTicket-1.pdf

Here is the response to the appeal I made to the IAS a while back. Surprise, surprise, they rejected my appeal! The Independent Appeals Service (IAS) has received a decision from the Independent Adjudicator regarding your recent appeal for the below PCN. Parking Charge Number (PCN): ....... Vehicle Registration: Date Issued: 06/02/2024 Appeal Outcome: Dismissed The Adjudicators comments are as follows: "The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator's role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case. In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish. There is no dispute in this case that the Appellant is entitled to park on this site, or indeed that he is in possession of a valid permit in order to do so. However, the terms for parking are prominently displayed, and are clear and unequivocal; a valid permit must be clearly displayed at all times when parked at this site. The permit was not clearly displayed as required. It is always the responsibility of the driver to ensure that the permit is clearly displayed prior to leaving the vehicle unattended. Having considered all the issues raised I am satisfied that the operator has established that the Parking Charge was properly issued in accordance with the law and accordingly this appeal has to be dismissed. " As your appeal has been dismissed, the Independent Adjudicator has found, upon the evidence provided, that the parking charge was lawfully incurred. As this appeal has not been resolved in your favour, the IAS is unable to intervene further in this matter. You should contact the operator within 14 days to make payment of the charge. Should you continue to contest the charge then you should consider obtaining independent legal advice. Yours Sincerely, The Independent Appeals Service

The permits are in an A4 piece of paper, but they do tear away into a small sticky square that you can stick to the windshield.

I got 2 rejections from CPM, surprise surprise: Site: Victoria House Issue date: 13/02/2024 Thank you for your appeal received on 11/03/2024 in relation to the above detailed Parking Charge. We are writing to advise you, that, after careful consideration, we have concluded that the PCN was issued correctly and therefore your appeal has been unsuccessful. The terms & conditions of parking at Victoria House have been exceptionally well advertised and are brought to the attention of the driver by way of the onsite warning signs. They inform the driver that they must clearly display a valid parking permit within the windscreen when parking within the car park. Whilst we appreciate your explanation, at the time of the contravention you were not clearly displaying a valid parking permit which is a breach of the terms & conditions and were therefore issued a Parking Charge. As the signage states "All vehicles must display a valid parking permit clearly within the front windscreen". You should refrain from parking in the car park if you do not have the correct parking permit in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking. After reviewing the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN was issued correctly and as such, must now be paid in full. The reduced rate of £60.00 is now payable by 27/03/2024. If payment is not received by 27/03/2024 the amount due will increase to £100.00. You can pay your PCN by visiting www.payapcn.co.uk or by calling 0333 023 0058. You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure. If you disagree with our decision, you can submit an appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) by visiting www.theias.org. Appeals to the IAS must be submitted within 21 days from the date of this letter. Please note, should you decide to submit an appeal to the IAS and it is subsequently rejected, the option to pay the discounted amount will no longer be available and the full amount will become due. Yours sincerely, Appeals Department Countrywide Parking Management Issue date: 14/02/2024 Thank you for your appeal received on 11/03/2024 in relation to the above detailed Parking Charge. We are writing to advise you, that, after careful consideration, we have concluded that the PCN was issued correctly and therefore your appeal has been unsuccessful. The terms & conditions of parking at Victoria House have been exceptionally well advertised and are brought to the attention of the driver by way of the onsite warning signs. They inform the driver that they must clearly display a valid parking permit within the windscreen when parking within the car park. Whilst we appreciate your explanation, at the time of the contravention you were not clearly displaying a valid parking permit which is a breach of the terms & conditions and were therefore issued a Parking Charge. As the signage states "All vehicles must display a valid parking permit clearly within the front windscreen". You should refrain from parking in the car park if you do not have the correct parking permit in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking. After reviewing the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN was issued correctly and as such, must now be paid in full. The reduced rate of £60.00 is now payable by 27/03/2024. If payment is not received by 27/03/2024 the amount due will increase to £100.00. You can pay your PCN by visiting www.payapcn.co.uk or by calling 0333 023 0058. You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure. If you disagree with our decision, you can submit an appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) by visiting www.theias.org. Appeals to the IAS must be submitted within 21 days from the date of this letter. Please note, should you decide to submit an appeal to the IAS and it is subsequently rejected, the option to pay the discounted amount will no longer be available and the full amount will become due. Yours sincerely, Appeals Department Countrywide Parking Management They also included a picture of the car park signs at the bottom.

Thanks for all your help guys

In my appeals on the others, I think the appeal to CPM for the other 2 I said the same thing, I've said that 3 times now. The other 2 I have not appealed at all, they are already going through the next stage. here is the signage. I think they are all the same. I will check. If there is any different ones I'll post them. sign.pdf

I see, I wish I'd known this before. Like you said luckily I've only done it with one of the tickets, no more! Hopefully it's not the same with the CPM, I don't remember admitting to be the driver with the others

This is from the website, I think this has to be a selectable option: Why Do I Have To Confirm That I Was The ‘Driver’ Or The ‘Keeper’ At The Time Of The Parking Event As I Am Entitled Not To Incriminate Myself? The purpose of Alternative Dispute Resolution is to resolve issues between consumers and traders relating to the provision of goods or services. If goods are purchased from a store and are faulty, then it is the person who bought the goods who has the legal right to raise the matter with the store (and to issue court proceedings against them if the grievance remains unresolved). Although the purchaser may appoint a solicitor or some other person to represent them during the process, the legal relationship is still between the store and the person who bought the goods (and no one else). In the case of a parking charge; it is the driver who is liable for the charge in the first instance and in certain circumstances the keeper can become liable. In identifying yourself as either the keeper or the driver, you are not incriminating yourself. You still have the ability to contest the charge on any point that renders the charge invalid and you are simply confirming that it is you that has that legal relationship with the parking operator. Furthermore, you have the freedom to choose whether or not to use the Independent Appeals Service at all. If you do not want to identify yourself as being party to the arbitration proceedings, you are at liberty not to use the IAS Appeals Service and to insist that the parking operator enforces the charge against you through the courts. Can I collect this, go back and say I wasn't the driver?

I didn't write it, but I'm wondering if it's a selectable option. I can check by starting (but not completing) another claim. See what the options are.

I will definitely stop appealing, this was my IAS appeal, although it is not completed yet and it's waiting for my response to the operator: The space was allocated to me when I purchased the property. I appreciate that the parking company is doing their job, but this is my space, which belongs to me. I'm sure you would agree that charging me for parking in my own space would be unfair. I have a parking permit, which I displayed. I found out after I got the ticket that my permit had fallen from my dashboard, and since then I have secured it to the windscreen. So this is just a misunderstanding; I was surprised that they even denied the claim. Thank you. I have attached the now displayed valid permit. Although I've just seen this, under motorist details: "You reported that you were the driver and the registered keeper at the time the parking charge was issued. You reported that you are being held liable for the parking charge." I don't remember saying this. What can I do? Should I correct it by saying I was not the driver?