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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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Yes stay clear of CO OP. I had a cash saver account with them. Unfortunately a direct debit was taken out without my knowledge, it was taken out a week earlier than the date it should have gone, taking me £7.00 over my limit. They cancelled all my DD without telling me, and it was only because i checked online that i knew. Speaking to them they didnt want to know and closed my account! Of course this caused me many problems with my DD payments. I now do not have a bank account and have no inclination to get one. But i will be joining a credit union, which is more ethical and has no charges. If everyone did this the banks would collapse.

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im waiting to see what will become of the post office as there is talk in gov of them being given more banking powers .i.e current accounts etc

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I'm in the mood for a rally. It appears that the courts as well as various other institutions seem to be deferring this "bank charges" thing. It's getting anooying now and I think there should be a rally (a peaceful one ofcourse) but out word needs to get out there.

 

Whose up for it? I MEAN PEACEFUL! I DONT MEAN LOOTING N THAT!!!!

 

Zap back to the 70's, get some pickets out, build a few camps n let it be known!

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I'm in the mood for a rally. It appears that the courts as well as various other institutions seem to be deferring this "bank charges" thing. It's getting anooying now and I think there should be a rally (a peaceful one ofcourse) but out word needs to get out there.

 

Whose up for it? I MEAN PEACEFUL! I DONT MEAN LOOTING N THAT!!!!

 

Zap back to the 70's, get some pickets out, build a few camps n let it be known!

 

Hey, see this thread:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/234784-march-fair-financial-system.html

 

Maybe we can have these threads merged? I am 100% with you. This needs to be done on the same day in every town and city up and down the country. It's just gone too far now. They are a big evil mafia and they don't want to take voluntary pay cuts, even though they'd still be earning plenty. ***In my view, even the County Courts largely paying out doesn't solve this.*** The banks are still charging and ruining the lives of millions. Not all of them have the heart to go to court. Even if they did, it can still be a tremendous ordeal getting the charges in the first place and dealing with it all! It's literally ruining the health of innocent people. I'm ashamed at the lack of people standing up. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them just want 'their' refund and don't give a toss about anyone else... :(:(:(

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Hey, see this thread:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/234784-march-fair-financial-system.html

 

Maybe we can have these threads merged? I am 100% with you. This needs to be done on the same day in every town and city up and down the country. It's just gone too far now. They are a big evil mafia and they don't want to take voluntary pay cuts, even though they'd still be earning plenty. ***In my view, even the County Courts largely paying out doesn't solve this.*** The banks are still charging and ruining the lives of millions. Not all of them have the heart to go to court. Even if they did, it can still be a tremendous ordeal getting the charges in the first place and dealing with it all! It's literally ruining the health of innocent people. I'm ashamed at the lack of people standing up. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them just want 'their' refund and don't give a toss about anyone else... :(:(:(

 

Yes, I'm annoyed with the lack of people putting their name down in the original thread as well. I really want to kickstart this marching idea and set it into motion right now!

 

It is ridiculous that we live in a first world democratic country which values the basic human rights of its individuals yet we just ignore the suffering of normal innocent people. I really am shocked by it. We need to be vociferous about this sort of thing but instead we get quieter. It is amazing that some people (not on this forum, or at least I haven't seen them here) actually support the bank charges, are these people so divorced from society that they ignore the plight of others??? No doubt they've never suffered the charges but do they really lack the ability to empathise??

 

I really don't think we'll feel vindicated when the banks give us back our money as only a permanent change in their practices and ethics will solve the problem. But the problem we seem to be suffering from now is the lack of resolve in people and this lack of resolve seems to be what is hampering us in our marching plans.

 

It is shocking that millions of people have suffered unjust bank charges yet only thousands of pepole speak up about it. What is even more shocking is that the people who actually want to march and solve the issue is not in the thousands or even in the hundreds but in the tens!

 

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Yep, I'm with you both. Already post on the thread that Renegotiation set up. Something needs to be done pronto whilst it is fresh in the minds of the public but I think you are right. Many people suffer from lack of resolve and probably feel a bit downtrodden. They day of the test case, after the result came out, I noticed that the camera panned to a member of the public, a black guy who had had his case 'stayed' and with the ruling, said 'thats it now, its all over, I won't be going forward, the banks have won'. I was sat there thinking, wow, I wish that camera was on me, I'd certainly tell them straight and that its far from over and if anything, its only made me more determined and resilient. We may be knocked down a little, but we are certainly not out. Years ago, I lived in Elton next to Shell Stanlow Refinery, when the strike was on regarding petrol, we where picketing on Oil Sites Road. I was there when Prescott lost his rag. (Was funny at the time) BUT people sat up and listened. This is what we need, something on a larger scale, in every major city.

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I'm in the mood for a rally. It appears that the courts as well as various other institutions seem to be deferring this "bank charges" thing. It's getting anooying now and I think there should be a rally (a peaceful one ofcourse) but out word needs to get out there.

 

Whose up for it? I MEAN PEACEFUL! I DONT MEAN LOOTING N THAT!!!!

 

Zap back to the 70's, get some pickets out, build a few camps n let it be known!

 

Do you mind having the threads merged? I will ask a mod if you don't.

What sort of world do you want your kids to grow up in?

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I dont mind, its up to Bankfodder. He's the forum moderator :-) Fine, most of my financial problems are down to myself, but thats no excuse to push me into depression.

 

We should do a 70's thing, and build a camp outside the banks lol.

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Hey I just thought, if 100 of us, or more, marched into a bank with our pickets, then that might bring a message to them!

 

It'd certainly get the attention of the papparazi, plus it'd bring good attention to CAG!

 

I think we should work on this! OI and I mean it, we DONT want chavvy kicker offers! Its meant to draw ATTENTION NOT DISGUST!

 

Anywayyy.. lol

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ok ANOTHER post, amber, the banks HAVENT won! See it as you havent won YET! Sorry, ,yet another rant lol

 

You mentioned about picketing against the petrol problems. Itws actually kinda cool to rally, I love fighting for a cause, but I was peed off that in the carbon footprint rally's in london that someone had to kick off and smashed up RBS.

 

That sooo killed the fun. Gosh if you were there, it was like a scene from the 70's. I swear hippies arent a thing of the past lol. Maybe I was born in '79 for a reason :-D

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They day of the test case, after the result came out, I noticed that the camera panned to a member of the public, a black guy who had had his case 'stayed' and with the ruling, said 'thats it now, its all over, I won't be going forward, the banks have won'. I was sat there thinking, wow, I wish that camera was on me, I'd certainly tell them straight and that its far from over and if anything

 

Although to be fair, at that stage the facts werent clear, and the press at the SC was really pushing that its all over, it was only once the judgement had been read by people that the true facts came out that it is indeed far from over.

 

He probably heard loads of news reporters saying that noone had a chance any more, I know if I was hearing loads of members of the press saying that, I would be feeling very doubtful, I would have expected the press to have got their facts straight before reporting, obviously this is not the case.

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And here it is:

 

 

Post Office bank plans outlined by government 02/12/2009

 

Plans for the Post Office to start offering financial products have been outlined by the government.

There will now be a public consultation on the plans, which include offering access to accounts from every one of the Post Office's 11,500 branches.

The plan, which also includes the provision of mortgages, requires investment of up to £1.7bn by 2011.

The changes would turn the Post Office into "a leading player in financial services", the government said.

 

 

 

BBC News - Post Office bank plans outlined by government

 

Well this could be a good move, providing the post office have a fair level of charges and fees and not get carried away with greed like the other banks.

 

Also will the post office offer current accounts to the many that are unable to get one elsewhere we shall see.

 

Im in full support of the post office if they hold true to a peoples bank and im sure they can gain a lot of custom if that was the case.

 

PF

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Yep, I'm with you both. Already post on the thread that Renegotiation set up. Something needs to be done pronto whilst it is fresh in the minds of the public but I think you are right. Many people suffer from lack of resolve and probably feel a bit downtrodden. They day of the test case, after the result came out, I noticed that the camera panned to a member of the public, a black guy who had had his case 'stayed' and with the ruling, said 'thats it now, its all over, I won't be going forward, the banks have won'. I was sat there thinking, wow, I wish that camera was on me, I'd certainly tell them straight and that its far from over and if anything, its only made me more determined and resilient. We may be knocked down a little, but we are certainly not out. Years ago, I lived in Elton next to Shell Stanlow Refinery, when the strike was on regarding petrol, we where picketing on Oil Sites Road. I was there when Prescott lost his rag. (Was funny at the time) BUT people sat up and listened. This is what we need, something on a larger scale, in every major city.

 

I found it very odd that they found someone like that to declare he was 'giving up' and it was 'all over'. :rolleyes: Call me a bit cynical, but... :lol:

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Two threads merged :)

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And here it is:

 

 

Post Office bank plans outlined by government 02/12/2009

 

 

Plans for the Post Office to start offering financial products have been outlined by the government.

There will now be a public consultation on the plans, which include offering access to accounts from every one of the Post Office's 11,500 branches.

The plan, which also includes the provision of mortgages, requires investment of up to £1.7bn by 2011.

The changes would turn the Post Office into "a leading player in financial services", the government said.

 

 

 

BBC News - Post Office bank plans outlined by government

 

Well this could be a good move, providing the post office have a fair level of charges and fees and not get carried away with greed like the other banks.

 

Also will the post office offer current accounts to the many that are unable to get one elsewhere we shall see.

 

Im in full support of the post office if they hold true to a peoples bank and im sure they can gain a lot of custom if that was the case.

 

PF

 

I'm really not getting this. They had Girobank years ago (I was with them) then sold it to Co-op but I can't remember why - whether it lost them money or what? So, having sold one bank for whatever reason they now want to start another one.

 

Be careful PF, if they do that again you'll end up back with Co-op!

 

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