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    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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standing my ground then lol

 

just one lil question what if this all backfires? x

It wont.

You will laugh abouit this after the second GW letter and they have gone away.

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hi abi82

I recently reveived a penalty charge notice in leeds from uk cps ltd. i wasnt the driver however I am waiting for all the threatening letters to arrive. I will be ignoring them too, so stay strong and don't pay. I have spent some time on here reading similar stories and I havent found anyone who has been taken to court by these [problematic].

Can you imagine if indeed they did take someone to court and lost. That would be the end of their sordid business as the media would have a field day and nobody would ever pay again. It is just not worth them taking you to court and losing so they will just try and bully you instead. They work on a percentages game. If a certain percentage pay, they make a worthwhile profit. Don't pay and stay strong !!

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hi abi82

I recently reveived a penalty charge notice in leeds from uk cps ltd. i wasnt the driver however I am waiting for all the threatening letters to arrive. I will be ignoring them too, so stay strong and don't pay. I have spent some time on here reading similar stories and I havent found anyone who has been taken to court by these [problematic].

 

You seem to have grasped the idea ;)

 

Can you imagine if indeed they did take someone to court and lost. That would be the end of their sordid business as the media would have a field day and nobody would ever pay again. It is just not worth them taking you to court and losing so they will just try and bully you instead. They work on a percentages game. If a certain percentage pay, they make a worthwhile profit. Don't pay and stay strong !!

 

They have:

 

Judge says Excel parking fines illegal - Mansfield Chad

 

Sadly though its not really a media storey that is likley to change anything and the Powers That Be don't seem to keen to actually sort the problem out. The DVLA certainly have a vested interest in so much as the get a few pounds for ever RK request they get from these PPC's. They won't want to stop the gravy train.

 

PPC's will continue for the forseeable future and unwary people will get caught out. Some who may even contact their local CAB and be told they have no option but to pay !

 

Best you can do is let family and friends know how the system works so they don't get caught out.

 

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hi abi82

I recently reveived a penalty charge notice in leeds from uk cps ltd. i wasnt the driver however I am waiting for all the threatening letters to arrive. I will be ignoring them too, so stay strong and don't pay. I have spent some time on here reading similar stories and I havent found anyone who has been taken to court by these [problematic].

Can you imagine if indeed they did take someone to court and lost. That would be the end of their sordid business as the media would have a field day and nobody would ever pay again. It is just not worth them taking you to court and losing so they will just try and bully you instead. They work on a percentages game. If a certain percentage pay, they make a worthwhile profit. Don't pay and stay strong !!

 

Your are solid. Do not contact them or mention who the driver was on any forum on by PM to anyone. Loss in small claims means nothing. What we want is for them to win in small claims and then get appealed up to a court of record. They have to very careful who they take to court on the very rare occasions they try it on. the seeds of their own destruction lie waiting there :)

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first solicitors letter arrived yesterday - stomach is churning but i'm not going to respond.

 

i did see the parking guy on friday in the car park taking pictures of a car on his mbile phone! he was a big fella driving a lil peugeot.

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thanks

 

bit spooked out with letter it is really arsey:

Graham White

notice of intended legal action

 

You were written to by LDK Security and their agent Roxburghe requesting the settlement of a CIVIL PARKING CHARGE. Due to the absence of payment, or a valid appeal, our client has instructed us to proceed with legal action to recover amount due.

 

therefore, it is a legal requirement to send notice of INTENDED LITIGATION before legal proceedings are issued in the county court. This letter fulfils this requirement.

 

TAKE NOTE; the costs associated with issuing a claim is as follows:

claim issue fee £30

Solicitors cost for issuing claim £50.00

Judgment costs £25.00

Warrant issue fee £100.00

solicitors fee for issuing warrent £2.25

TOTAL ADDITIONAL COSTS £207.25

Any judgement registered against you could seriously affect your chances of obtaining credit in the future, as this information can be made available to any interested parties via the register of judgements, orders and fines and remains there for 6 years.

 

in the event of a judgement order not being adhered to, we may instruct Bailiffs to attend at your address who are authorised to seize goods for sale at public auction in the amount claimed plus all statutory interest.

 

please contact us with your proposals for settlement within 7 days to avoid the possibilty of this action

 

yours sincerely

 

michael sobell

solicitor

 

regulated by the solicitors regulation authority registered number 272121

 

so sorry to go on x

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If you do some word searches in the forum with some of the words in your letter, you will find that the same tat has been copied by lots of people on CAG. It's a standard letter with lots of "ifs" and "maybes" none of which will actually happen.

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as it says INTENDED LITIGATION, maybe sometime, maybe next year, maybe never

 

these **** of solicitors think they are some sort of god and you will do what they tell them

 

they wont go near a County Court with these cases , because they know they dont have a case in the first place

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Most of the people that are helping you have a LOT of green reputation

marks under their user names, in fact, Michael has the highest achievable.!

So take comfort from the fact that you're being well advised.

 

Please do continue to ignore as advised, as you're close to the end of the

process now before they give up and move onto another mug.

 

Good luck and best wishes, Dave.. :-)

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deep breaths and ignore

 

thanks - all your help is appreciated x

 

Swap your deep breaths for a Glass of Red Wine - no need to panick !

 

"Micheal Sobell" is a solictor who rather than use his own name trades using the name very similar to a rather more reputable firm.

 

You might also note on the letters you have that the phone number for Roxburghe is just one digit different to that you have from "Graham White" - strange that they are just a desk away from each other in the same room.

 

Fear not ;)

 

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thanks, i really appreciate all the advice, sounds good to swap deep breaths for red wine too,

 

me thinks i'll have a look at the phone number bit on letters

 

thank you so much again, no doubt i will be back with another panic soon lol x

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HI SORRY HIJACKING THIS THREAD I GOT A PARKING FINE FROM COUNCIL DIDNT PAY SO IT WAS TAKEN TO COURT AND GOT FINE FOR £110 TODAY HAVE HAD A VISIT FROM PHOENIX COMMERCIAL COLLECTIONS LOOKING FOR £299.98 i told her i wasnt paying because my husband had paid the fine hes come home from work told me hr totally fogot all bout it what i want to know is cn they charge this amount thats nearly a 200% increase she just came to my door i didnt let her in she just handed me a piece of paper saying notice of baliff having visited

PLEASE ADVICE NEEDED

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HI SORRY HIJACKING THIS THREAD I GOT A PARKING FINE FROM COUNCIL DIDNT PAY SO IT WAS TAKEN TO COURT AND GOT FINE FOR £110 TODAY HAVE HAD A VISIT FROM PHOENIX COMMERCIAL COLLECTIONS LOOKING FOR £299.98 i told her i wasnt paying because my husband had paid the fine hes come home from work told me hr totally fogot all bout it what i want to know is cn they charge this amount thats nearly a 200% increase she just came to my door i didnt let her in she just handed me a piece of paper saying notice of baliff having visited

PLEASE ADVICE NEEDED

 

Somewhat of a different situation and not really connected to the OP of this thread.

 

If you indeed did receive a PCN - choosing to ignore a PCN, subsequent correspondence (Notice to Owner and so on) and not either paying it or challenging it in the correct manner will land you in doodaa.

 

I'd suggest you start a new thread and post pictures (with personal details removed) of the PCN you received - both back and front.

 

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If you indeed did receive a PCN - choosing to ignore a PCN, subsequent correspondence (Notice to Owner and so on) and not either paying it or challenging it in the correct manner will land you in doodaa.

 

 

 

Blagton

 

is that not what i'm doing?

sorry i'm such pain

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is that not what i'm doing?

sorry i'm such pain

No, the ticket Blagton was refering to was issued by the Council (who have real powers). Not the clowns you are dealing with.

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P.S. You are NOT a pain.

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is that not what i'm doing?

sorry i'm such pain

 

Don't panick - you are doing the correct thing - sit back and have another glass of wine.

 

If you look again at my you quote you will see it was in responce to Ruthill who hijacked your thread with his own situation of a council issued PCN. This is not the same as a PPC issued Invoice.

 

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