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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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i get these letter cycles for another yes another debt ill post which company later when iv been through my library to work out who it is

im worried ill get a cap in my ass from some gangsta geeza what with the name n all

anybody know of these twerps and what the moa is???

 

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Power to Contact need to be renamed "No power whatsoever"

 

A complete joke and a waste of space, there will be no contact 'Manager' turning up at all, the fact that they don't even have the staff or the money to send these idiots out on the street is another string in your bow.

 

File under ignore, and if any such knuckle head does grace your property a glasgow kiss and a strong word will put paid to any more intended visitis!

 

Can't remember who 'Power to Contact' is? It is a psudoname for some laughable DCA I know that.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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hi forum

i get these letter cycles for another yes another debt ill post which company later when iv been through my library to work out who it is

im worried ill get a cap in my ass from some gangsta geeza what with the name n all

anybody know of these twerps and what the moa is???

 

thanks forum

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write a letter to the registrar of companies crown way maindy cardiff with a copy of their letter an complain that they are a limited company and have not stated their true status the registered company number and registered address on their letter

 

you could also point out that you are aware that others have complained about this company and you expect the registrar to take firm action as they continue to flout company law

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Hi,

 

They knocked my door twice in 2 days, the 2nd visit being 8a.m.! Not impressed!

 

OH answered to both times and they just left a card and went away without any problem. Not been back since.

 

In my case it was on behalf of Debitas (Capital 1)

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dicky dicky

what did you get from companies house - worth a carrot?

got any templates of letters sent to either

ill send em

just for my records when i have some money

cheers

 

they acknowledged and YES they will order them to alter their letterheads

 

just write and enclose a ocopy of their letter and say that it should have \LTD on it and their company number and registered office

 

why not give them some aggravation- however minor doesnt cost you anything other than the stamp

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I had a visit from Powerless !

 

Quite funny really, he was obviously a self employed freelancer acting on behalf of Capone/Debitas, when I opened the door he was fumbling with about six ID cards hanging round his neck trying to 'find' the correct ID for who he was 'representing' although he thrust his mobile towards me asking me to talk to Debitas he quickly left when told no cca no pay!

 

As I said Powerless - nothing to fear even IF they turn up.

 

Beachy

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Pity you didn't get a pic of his id stuff, then you could have reported him to the tax office, odds on he is not declaring his pitiful earnings from this company and may also be signing on...

 

Doorstepping is now being widely advertised as being a 'professional' job and people should trained and licenced similar to bouncers..... if only!

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Hello Folks!

 

Further to what DD has pointed out, that Power 2 Annoy Letterhead has indeed failed to show their Company Number etc.

 

Anyone getting a similar letter should report them to Companies House.

 

BTW, whilst Credit Solutions Limited is part of the same rotten group as Power 2 Annoy, the latter is also a Company, so any complaint needs to be in relation to the correct Company.

 

If in doubt, check the Company details here (it's Free):

 

Companies House

 

The current details for Power 2 Annoy are:

 

Name & Registered Office:

POWER 2 CONTACT LTD

CAPELLA COURT

BRIGHTON ROAD

PURLEY

SURREY

UNITED KINGDOM

CR8 2PG

 

Company No. 04791083

 

Cheers,

BRW

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Pity you didn't get a pic of his id stuff, then you could have reported him to the tax office, odds on he is not declaring his pitiful earnings from this company and may also be signing on...

 

Doorstepping is now being widely advertised as being a 'professional' job and people should trained and licenced similar to bouncers..... if only!

 

now now silly girl- when creditors refer to all debtors as **** and avoiders you would be the first to complain

 

yet here you are tarring all of THEM with the same brush

 

the vast majority of them are working people like you and me just doing their job and are harmless enough

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I agree DD they are only doing a job and earning a living.

 

BUT they do not play by the rules!

 

I have just re-read the reply letter that P2C sent after I complained to them and one sentence goes "In relation to subsection 2.12 of OFT guidelines doorstep visits must give adequate notice of the time and date of visit".

 

They knocked my door twice in 2 days and the 2nd call was at 8.05 in the morning, so you can imagine, my thoughts were pretty much the same as sillygirls that day!

 

It also states that the Armstrong v Sheppard (1959), (which is used in the doorstep collections template letter on here) is dependant on each individual circumstance and only such order to refuse access can come from a Court and not from the individual. I should mention this in my response too I guess but need a pointer, where to find it.

 

I have yet to respond further to their letter but will be asking for evidence from them as to when they made the appointments with me!

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not all of them play by the rules i agree

 

but then neither do all of the debtors-

 

 

the reason they call so early/late is because you are likely to be at work anytime between 8am and 5pm

 

 

it sometimes pays to try to understand the other sides point of view as well as your own!

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IMHO and just my twopenoth - a job is a job and I agree that times are hard, but I too have lived through hard times and just like other professionals a person needs a certain 'aptitude' to carry out certain work.

 

Just as like me a fully trained SRN, I would never think myself able to take on a Doctor's job.

 

My point being, one needs a personality to fit the job, and I'll say no more on the subject.

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"My point being, one needs a personality to fit the job"

 

 

Theres a thought.....obviously the CSA have not thought of offering personality courses as far as I am aware.

Cant see anything about it in their codes of practice either:rolleyes:

 

 

Maybe Crudit today will beat them to it now............

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now now silly girl- when creditors refer to all debtors as **** and avoiders you would be the first to complain

 

yet here you are tarring all of THEM with the same brush

 

the vast majority of them are working people like you and me just doing their job and are harmless enough

 

Rubbish. Decent people don't prey on nor try to terrify their fellow citizens

 

Decent people would rather starve than be a parasitic debt collector:x

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Well, I too worked with some lovely people a long time ago and I used to have to send them out knocking doors to try and collect unpaid debts.

 

I would add however, that the call was generally used as a last resort because no response was received from letters sent or telephone calls. I think that the majority on here are trying to deal with CCC's but the boot is on the other foot now and they(the CCC's) are incapable of responding with anything apart from their standard letters, which of course do not apply to many of the genuine people who are trying to sort things out and get a fairer deal.

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There are good and bad and occasional downright awful in all walks of life, and I guess if you are happy doing your job then you have to admit that if it is a job that many others would not have the conscience to do, in that they could not sleep at night, you have a different 'take' on life in general.

 

Life differs for everyone and what one sees as a pleasant job, others have not got the 'stomach' for it.

 

What I am trying to say is not that these jobs must not be done, but think about what you are asked to do and in what circumstances, and if you would not be happy doing it, or having these things done to a member of your family, then perhaps you are being asked to go a step too far.

 

People who get actual pleasure in the debt collection business should have a smattering of conscience, and education, and have a brain they can use, and not just be rude, arrogant, aggresive people who cannot string two words together that don't make a threat. In other words they should have MINDS and not be led by scripts.

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its just a bit desperate for people to be forced to work in industries like this what a sad world we have grown up into

some sad scrote in a dark room calling people up harrassing them for money

for 12500

only 19 knows no better

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Pity you didn't get a pic of his id stuff, then you could have reported him to the tax office, odds on he is not declaring his pitiful earnings from this company and may also be signing on...

 

He would be foolish not to declare his earnings - its not cash in hand, it is traceable from the DCA he's working for.

 

I have done some doorstep collection work in the past - the money is not always pitiful, some of the work can be paid well. It does depend on the nature of the work and he company.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

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