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    • Under the consumer rights act 2015, if a defect manifests itself within 30 days and you have a right to return the vehicle for a full refund. If any defect manifests itself within the first six months of ownership then you have a right to return the vehicle for a full refund subject to the retailers right to carry out a repair. If the retailer declines to repair or if the repair fails then you have the right to return. The problem here is that you have to assert their right. It's a bit ridiculous – but you have to do let them know preferably in writing that you are asserting your rights under the consumer rights act either the 30 day right or the six month right. I suppose that you haven't done this – which would be quite understandable because most people don't know that these rights exist and that they are subject to these conditions – the condition that the right must be inserted. It is frankly ridiculous. The dealers know it and we have lots of instances of this company delaying appointments et cetera and our strong suspicion is that they are simply trying to run their customers out of time. On the basis that you haven't asserted your rights, we now have to look to ordinary contract law. You are entitled to purchase a vehicle which is of satisfactory condition and which remains that way for a reasonable period of time. Clearly it is in satisfactory. They are blaming you. Has your independent inspection identified the reason for the defect? This will be important because as you have seen BMW are already saying it is down to your driving and you are going to have to produce evidence that it wasn't down to your driving and the you drove it absolutely reasonably and it was simply the condition of the car. Have you been without the car for any period of time. Is it driveable now? If the car was off the road for a substantial amount of time and was still off the road then you would be able to argue that this is a fundamental breach of contract and that you have been deprived of substantially the whole benefit of the contract and therefore you will be entitled to treat the contract as breached by Big Motoring World and insist on cancelling the contract. It may be that you will eventually be obliged to keep the car but have the repairs paid for. Have you had any quotations for the work that needs doing? I asked you questions about the MOT – but you haven't responded.
    • A 'violent left wing mob', comprised of a chap in a red hoody with a damp polystyrene coffee cup and a bit of wet cement, gets nowhere near cowering frightened farage some distance away on top of his double decker bus .. as farages security and support seem to film the incident grinning     Farage bravely flinches, grimaces and seems to almost burst into tears as the 'objects managed to travel a part of the way toward his position on top of his bus. His reactions honed by having a bit of milk splash him at a prior incident allow him to swiftly fall into a protective cower and grimace .. .. Sometime after, once the mob of 1 had been safely bundled away, farage apparently wipes his eyes of tears, and rising from his cowed and frightened pose, bravely shouts “I will not be bullied or cowed by a violent left-wing mob who hate our country.” .. however few they may comprise of.   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nigel-farage-cement-barnsley-reform-uk-b2560501.html  
    • According to Parkopedia parking is limited to two hours.  I don't know how accurate this is though. What were you doing there for four hours?
    • no its friday 21st by 4pm if you'd done it properly and read the sticky in post 2 it clearly says: ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM  
    • Have had a read up just to double check last day to file defence is 24 June (claim form date is 22 May)
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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They called me again this morning! Quick references to OFT guidelines, FOS complaint & Manchester Trading Standards and he didn't want to talk anymore! upset.gif

 

Though at one point he did quickly say... Is this just about the lack of any documentation?! :lol:

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THIS IS NOT A COURT DOCUMENT

 

THIS LETTER IS VALID EVEN IF NOT READ BY YOU

 

We are sure you are as keen as us to ensure the OFT's guidelines regarding statute barred debts are adhered to. Because of this we wish to advise you of the following one-off settlement quote :

 

An action founded on simple contract shall not be brought after the expiration of six years from the date on which the cause of action accrued.

 

IF YOU CALL WITHIN 7 WORKING DAYS , WE CAN OFFER A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TEXT IN THIS LAW THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO READ AND ARE PREPARED TO NARROW IT DOWN TO ONE RELEVANT PARAGRAPH.

 

 

ACT NOW ! If we do not receive a response from you we will have no alternative but to take no further interest in your scheme.

 

TELL US ! You must tell us if you cannot understand the Limitations Act 1980 . We WILL HELP YOU if we can . If you have a problem understanding this law or the office of fair trading guidelines on debt collection procedure regarding harassment , it is better to consult and be acquainted with than to simply ignore it.

 

 

THIS LAW WILL NOT GO AWAY. - IT MAKES SENSE TO READ IT IN FULL – NOW .

 

ARE YOU AWARE THAT YOUR NEGLECT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAW COULD BE AFFECTING YOUR CREDIBILTY AND MAY IMPAIR YOUR ABILITY TO OBTAIN OR LOAN VALIDITY TO YOURSELVES AT A LATER DATE .

 

 

 

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Only one letter since my request for their complaints procedure, and a major step down from the earlier 'court action ' ultimatum . Now it is limited to 'take further action'. It is unspecified as to what . I hope they threaten me with a door collection agent , I hate this traffic in london and the congestion charges .. id want him here just to tell him to go away again, and knowing he spent all that time and money for his troubles :)

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Would love to see their faces or should that faeces when they read this. They will have to send for the monkey with the brain cell to translate it into DCA Idiotspeak. Maybe you should write the letter in CRAYON

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dear me. they have been collecting on this account for 8 years but dont have a CCA agreement............if you claimed back the payments you have made over 8 years at 8%.....

 

new car dave???

 

Can you actually claim back any money you have paid to a debt if there is no CCA?

 

I'm just starting this with a catalogue debt and Dave was kind enough to post on my thread, it's very interesting reading this :)

Lloyds TSB -Settled in full 30/08/06 :)

Now whoes next :)

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Can you actually claim back any money you have paid to a debt if there is no CCA?

 

Very difficult as the money was paid voluntarily.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Very difficult as the money was paid voluntarily.

 

voluntarily?

 

'we will default you if you do not keep up repayments'

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

alliance and Leicester.WON

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voluntarily?

 

'we will default you if you do not keep up repayments'

You would have to prove that you only made the payments because you were prssurised or diliberately mislead into making them.

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deliberately misled:

 

RWC: we bought a debt and you must pay us

DMD: can i have the CCA?

(RWC send an application form/illegible CCA, so debt cannot be enforced)

RWC: we have sent the CCA so you must pay us

 

like I said, deliberately misled

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

alliance and Leicester.WON

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deliberately misled:

 

RWC: we bought a debt and you must pay us

DMD: can i have the CCA?

(RWC send an application form/illegible CCA, so debt cannot be enforced)

RWC: we have sent the CCA so you must pay us

 

like I said, deliberately misled

Then as long as you are sure they will not be able to produce a valid CCA then try for a refund

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As previously stated you would need to prove that the monies paid were paid under duress. Placing a default on your file if you don't pay hardly counts as duress.

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HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Threats of court action might be sufficient though
The problem with threats is that you must be prepared to see them through. Ask Clownells or RWC the country's leaders in computer generated threats

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As previously stated you would need to prove that the monies paid were paid under duress. Placing a default on your file if you don't pay hardly counts as duress.

 

 

rory32

 

surely you must agree that threatening to put a default on a persons credit file/put a charging order on their property/threatening to send the bailiffs round/threatening to bankrupt a person would put said person 'under duress'....?

 

thus making them hand over payments 'under duress'...?

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

alliance and Leicester.WON

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