2*Parking Eye PCN's for gym use - i've paid them, but more are i feel coming!!

[Irt8787]

Hi

just received two parking charge notices from PE today, £100 each for overstaying at a retail car park.

 

new member of The Gym at the retail park and thought I get 4 hrs free parking after registering my vehicle on their self service machine.

didn’t realise that I have to do that each time I visit.

 

Unfortunately I have paid both charges before I found these threads.

is it too late to do anything now?

 

another worry is that I have been going for a month, I am unsure how many times I could have overstayed.

I might get more PCN from Parking Eye. 

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera captur

 

1 Date of the infringement   21/12 and 22/12

 

2 Date on the NTK  25/12 on both 

 

3 Date received. 29/12

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? Y

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Y

 

6 Have you appealed? Y for 22/12, N for 21/12. appealed through parking eye website and has unfortunately identified myself as the driver on 22/12

 

7 Who is the parking company? Parking Eye

 

8. Where exactly?   Great Hormer Street District Centre, Liverpool 

 

Appeals body - BPA

PARKING CHARGE.pdf PARKING CHARGE 2.pdf

[dx100uk]

well you could try and do a chargeback to the debit card provider.?

 

 

 

 

[Irt8787]

good idea I will give my bank a call and see if they can do that. 

[Irt8787]

as feared I have received 3 more PCN from ParkingEye today. 

 

Date of the infringement   12/12, 14/12 and 19/12

 

2 Date on the NTK  24/12 all three

 

3 Date received. 31/12

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? Yes

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? No for all three

 

7 Who is the parking company?  Parking Eye

 

8. Where exactly?   Great Hormer Street District Centre, Liverpool 

 

 

any advice on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated. thanks. 

 

 

parkingeye PCN

PARKING CHARGE 3.pdf PARKING CHARGE 4.pdf

 

MEMBER OF THE.pdf

[Homer67]

Go and tell the Gym that you will be cancelling your membership and telling others to do the same unless they sort it out.

[ericsbrother]

post up piccies of the signage and also of the car park if it shows any sort of demarcation between the gym area and the retail area.

[Irt8787]

These are the pics of the car park and the signs. The gym is in the retail area.  I know I have to input my vehicle registration details on the self service machine in the gym to get an extra 2 hrs free parking (max 4 hrs) but nowhere did it say that I have to do this EACH time.

 

Pls let me know if I have a case, or if I should pay the reduced charge before deadline. Ta. 

Photo.pdf

Photo_2.pdf

 

the instruction to enter then vehicle registration detail for EACH VISIT can only be found on The Gym Group website FAQ section. 
from reading the ParkingEye signage, I wrongly assumed that once I’ve done it once I’m covered for future visits. Sneaky. 

Edited January 4, 2020 by Irt8787

[honeybee13]

Nobody has said to pay them, we normally don't. Please bear with us until the guys have looked at the pictures and they'll advise yu.

 

HB

[KL2]

I normally don't either, I'm not too sure about these ones but I have a friend who has mentioned this company before so let me ask him and I'll update my post.

 

Just posting so I don't forget.

[honeybee13]

We have plenty of other Parking Eye threads, it's worth reading around.

 

HB

[ericsbrother]

neither the sign nor the screen blurb, which is your contract to park mentions paying PE a fortune for not obeying a contract you havent been offered.

Put simply, you dont owe them because they havent offered you anything bu way of a contract to break.

They will now this but dont care and hate the idea of being caught out and having to pay back everyone else so they will try and stick it to you up to the last hurdle,

 

What to do? sit on all of these until you get a lba and then let them know abotu the lack of contract and lack of any conditon breached by way of the signage and screen. They may try suing to get you to drop the matter, esp as you ahve paid them before

[Irt8787]

if you look at the clearer Photo 2, you can see their ‘parking contract’ in smaller prints at the bottom of the signage. Is that what you are referring to?

[ericsbrother]

If you  look up "invitation to treat" and then consider waht is and isnt a contract you will realise that this sign deosnt apply to you and nor to anyone else if they dont like it

YOUR contract is the blurb on the check in machine and that says nowt about paying them for anything.

You have to understand they tell lies to make money out of the gullible and uninformed. dont be in those groups and learn a bit about contract law as it is not about parking at all

[Irt8787]

I’ve looked it up but finding myself still confused after reading them. I’m not very good with legal stuff. 

 

on the check in machine, after entering the vehicle registration I think there is a warning about ensuring the detail is correct or I might be fined. I’ll take a pic of that when I go in again. 

 

so it’s ok to ignore the PCN for now? what is the likely next step by PE? debt recovery?

 

thanks. 

[brassnecked]

It's not a fine and if they do try court you defend and win, you could sue them for the cash you already paid them others will be along with advice as well.

[ericsbrother]

re check in machine

- if it tells you somehting after you enter your details then that isnt a fair contract either as you cant have considered it before pressing the button.

 

Why are you so keen on setting yourself up to fail rather than learning how to defeat these bandits?

 

Do nothing and say nothing until you get a lba from them but in the meanwhile read and read some more on the subject of these issues.

 

Start with a couple of hundred of the threads on here and then read a few years wrth of the Parking Pranksters blogs and you will then understand why we urge peopel to fight rather than give up and pay up. i

t is a very rare charge that is actually legal

[Irt8787]

So out of the 5 PCN I paid for two before I came to this forum for advice. I accepted that. received more letters from PE for 3 unpaid ones asking for full £100 each which I ignored. 

 

now I have received a letter from Equita debt collection for £170 (see attached). that’s for 1 PCN. I am expecting 2 more. Equita is threatening court action. 

 

so I understand the advice is to not engage until I get LBA. only issue is I am expecting to move out to a different address in coming months. How do I make sure that I don’t get 3x CCJs for missed LBA(s)? 

 

Thanks. 

Debt collection 1.pdf

 

[dx100uk]

you write to PE informing them of your address change WHEN you know you are safety be moved in and will get mail

[ericsbrother]

Equita are owned by Capita, the big outsourcing co the govt likes.

PE is owned by Capita.

smell anything fishy?

 

Use RM redirect for at least 6 months, it will save you a lot of bother from utility co's  ect as well as these bandits

[Irt8787]

didn’t know RM offer redirection service. i will prob do both, inform equita of address change and also use RM redirect.

 

thanks.  

[dx100uk]

no PE ignore equita they are a DCA in this guise

 

 

[brassnecked]

They might use their letterhead that indicates they are bailiffs, they are the ones many Councils which are infested by a Capita Revenue office outsource to Enforce on Council tax Liability Orders. but here they are merely DCA with no more power than a dead battery.

[Irt8787]

I have received a Letter before court from ParkingEye, demanding full payment or else. Not sure why they are fixated on the PCN on 19/12/19 and ignore ones on 12/12 and 14/12. What should I do now? Please advise. 

Parking Eye LBA.pdf

[honeybee13]

Please wait for someone like ericsbrother to see this before you reply, as they're talking about Pre-Action Protocol. The guys will know what to do.

 

HB

[Irt8787]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

Please wait for someone like ericsbrother to see this before you reply, as they're talking about Pre-Action Protocol. The guys will know what to do.

 

HB

Thanks will do.