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CEL ANPR PCN - BlZSPACE SWINDON BSS HOUSE.CHENEY MANOR ROAD. SWINDON, ENGLAND SN2 2PJ


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My wife dropped my daughter off at a kids party space on a trading estate and didn't think to look for signs as she parked outside the establishment.

We got a £60 (reduced early payment) fine.

Although now the signs are to be seen its a lot of money is this something we must now pay?

Attached is the notice and the signs.

Looks obvious now but when you are driving to a party warehouse on a trading estate and looking for the place itself its easy to miss this and especially when it seems logical to park there and walk in.

My wife was there for 30 minutes.

Thanks in advance

Sam         

 

2024-04-16 CEL PCN-NTK incident 2024-00-07.pdf

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welcome....

it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand

no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything.

Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter

hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do).

Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS.

Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves.

10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either.

the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get.

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please complete this:

thread title updated.

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to CEL ANPR PCN - BlZSPACE SWINDON BSS HOUSE.CHENEY MANOR ROAD. SWINDON, ENGLAND SN2 2PJ

Please fill in the sticky as dx asked.

Was the kids' party inside the Bizspace area?

We could do with some help from you.

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The PCN is one of the more compliant that I have seen. however it still fails.

There is no period of parking mentioned as required by paragraph 9[2][a] . ANPR cameras only capture the arrival an departure times. It does not record the times you drove from the entrance to the parking place and then from the parking spot to the exit.

That means that if you are the keeper then you are not liable to pay the PCN. Only the driver is so do not appeal as you may reveal who was actually driving.if you were not the keeper then as long as the driver is not identified CE will have difficulty on that fact alone. The majority of people with valid motor insurance are allowed to drive your car  and Courts do not accept tha that the driver and the keeper are the same person.

On top of that your car was trespassing there since you didn't have a Permit and only the land owner can pursue you not the monkey they employ. The signage is prohibitory in that only permit holders can park there so no contract can be formed.

The signage is new apparently so there must be some time allowance for motorists to adjust to the new signs which could mean that  they shouldn't even be issuing you with a PCN.

For all those reasons I wouldn't be too much in a hurry to pay them a penny.

And well done on posting up the PCN and that sign so quickly. 

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I've got some suggestions re Bizspace but can you fill in the sticky please.

We could do with some help from you.

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We would love to help you but if you can't find two minutes to fill in the details of the disputed invoice despite three requests there's little we can do.

We could do with some help from you.

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