Me and My Various Benefit Claims and issues

[Tj rodgers]

Not sure when I will se my advisor next, no appointments booked so just wait for a letter saying when to see her, keep my head down and keep applying and hopefully will stay on normal fortnightly sign ons for a while

 

 

not sure if I missed the new scheme, I read that at the moment it is only for people leaving the WP after april (I left in march)

 

 

job search not bad at the moment, quiet over weekend but have applied for 7 so far this week (couple of responses back)

 

 

how did your sign on go?

where they happy with everything in your work book?

yes they leave u alone if you finished wp before April and you just carry on with post work programme support but i have just read the guidelines on the gov website and it says candidates finishing work prog before april carry on with post work program support but after week 26 of post work program support your advisor can review your case and make a decision along with the manager weather or not to place you onto the new Help to Work Scheme

[pauls33]

Thanks for that

 

 

Gives me about another 3 months to go, I would like to think I could get a job before then, but with applications either being ignored or just getting rejection letters I am not too hopeful

[Tj rodgers]

Thanks for that

 

 

Gives me about another 3 months to go, I would like to think I could get a job before then, but with applications either being ignored or just getting rejection letters I am not too hopeful

Im on week 31 of post work program support so it just a matter of time for me before they mandate me to that scheme - is anybody here actualy on the Help to work scheme?

[jasta11]

I've been on the PWP since September last year, so that makes it about 36 weeks for me. So far I've been lucky in mainly only seeing decent, sensible advisers who can see that there's no point at all in sending me on worthless schemes which won't improve my employability in the slightest.

 

If the decision to mandate to Help To Work is purely a discretionary one by the adviser hopefully I won't ever have to go on it, but I'm not holding my breath. I'll certainly argue like hell if I'm ever put on the scheme but of course if it becomes compulsory after a set period then there's nothing I can do about it.

 

Anyone who is still on PWP, my advice would be to really show them you're doing all you can to find work and it might stop them putting you on HTW..if only for a while longer.

[boomboomboom]

Im on week 31 of post work program support so it just a matter of time for me before they mandate me to that scheme - is anybody here actualy on the Help to work scheme?

 

i will be put on the help to work scheme from the 20th of june as my adviser told me last month when u see me back on the 20th of june we will then decided what is best for u either daily sign on or a voluntary work but i can be sure i will be on the voluntary work scheme plus i cant see many adviser at the jcp actually wanting to sign u on daily am sure they will be wanting u out working do u not think?

 

as they wont cope with daily sign ons so to me its a waste even putting daily sign ons.

[boomboomboom]

Thanks for that

 

 

Gives me about another 3 months to go, I would like to think I could get a job before then, but with applications either being ignored or just getting rejection letters I am not too hopeful

 

 

am sure u will get a job soon just keep going keep trying like am doing i had a interview today if i get it it will be bye bye job centre and hello to 40hours work.

 

hows your jobsearch been going when last time u got an interview?

[leicesterguy]

Finished pwps in December 2013 and was put back on jsa 25+ with normal 2 week signing

 

does anyone know if i will be put on htw or put back on wp in december 2014

 

have to see advisor next week for first time in about three months

[Tj rodgers]

Finished pwps in December 2013 and was put back on jsa 25+ with normal 2 week signing

 

does anyone know if i will be put on htw or put back on wp in december 2014

 

have to see advisor next week for first time in about three months

well thats the first time ive heard of sombody going from post work programme back to normal fortnightly signing on - Lucky You !

[jasta11]

Finished pwps in December 2013 and was put back on jsa 25+ with normal 2 week signing

 

does anyone know if i will be put on htw or put back on wp in december 2014

 

have to see advisor next week for first time in about three months

 

I don't think even the DWP or JC know what's happening - or when it's happening - or if it's happening! Keep your head down and you might get left alone, at least for the foreseeable future. I'm hoping for the same.

[Tj rodgers]

I don't think even the DWP or JC know what's happening - or when it's happening - or if it's happening! Keep your head down and you might get left alone, at least for the foreseeable future. I'm hoping for the same.

and me i just wish there was more full time job in my area also ones that dont involve commision based wages coz there loads of them advertised each week round my area

[jasta11]

Same here. Employers now only want people when they want them; the days of the 'normal' permanent job are fading rapidly. When they started calling us 'Human Resources' instead of 'Staff' or 'Personnel' that was the beginning of the rot.

 

For myself, I'm sick of seeing vacancies which involve 15-20 seperate 'jobs' and for which they're only paying minimum wage. Most jobs usually involve doing more than was in the agreement and we all accept that, but what they expect from you now is just ridiculous.

 

Saw an admin job a while ago in which you were basically the only one left in the office during the day and had to run the place, sort out any problems, deal with customers, etc. I've done this kind of thing before and the correct title of the job should be 'Office Manager' - you're the only one there so you're effectively managing the office, right? - yet they had it advertised as only 'Admin Assistant' and for minimum wage.

 

I had an urge to email them and ask 'Pardon me, but if I'm the only one there all day, exactly who am I 'assisting'..myself?'.

[essexmat]

Same here. Employers now only want people when they want them; the days of the 'normal' permanent job are fading rapidly. When they started calling us 'Human Resources' instead of 'Staff' or 'Personnel' that was the beginning of the rot.

 

For myself, I'm sick of seeing vacancies which involve 15-20 seperate 'jobs' and for which they're only paying minimum wage. Most jobs usually involve doing more than was in the agreement and we all accept that, but what they expect from you now is just ridiculous.

 

Saw an admin job a while ago in which you were basically the only one left in the office during the day and had to run the place, sort out any problems, deal with customers, etc. I've done this kind of thing before and the correct title of the job should be 'Office Manager' - you're the only one there so you're effectively managing the office, right? - yet they had it advertised as only 'Admin Assistant' and for minimum wage.

 

I had an urge to email them and ask 'Pardon me, but if I'm the only one there all day, exactly who am I 'assisting'..myself?'.

 

This is the problem, there are no REAL PERMANENT jobs any more and if there are they are filled internally or by people already volunteering at the place at minimum wage. The JCP/WP seem to think we WANT to be unemployed and going through hell and being treated like idiots - the majority of the unemployed WANT TO WORK but cannot do so on minimum wage at set hours less travel etc as it brings in LESS and we cannot survive.

[Chester6]

This is the problem, there are no REAL PERMANENT jobs any more and if there are they are filled internally or by people already volunteering at the place at minimum wage. The JCP/WP seem to think we WANT to be unemployed and going through hell and being treated like idiots - the majority of the unemployed WANT TO WORK but cannot do so on minimum wage at set hours less travel etc as it brings in LESS and we cannot survive.

They always claim even a p/t time job is better and have started giving the impression you won't lose out and should be happy you can still sign on and get JSA or whichever benefits you get

[Tj rodgers]

This is the problem, there are no REAL PERMANENT jobs any more and if there are they are filled internally or by people already volunteering at the place at minimum wage. The JCP/WP seem to think we WANT to be unemployed and going through hell and being treated like idiots - the majority of the unemployed WANT TO WORK but cannot do so on minimum wage at set hours less travel etc as it brings in LESS and we cannot survive.

I rarely find a job thats over 36 hours a week every week thats not commission dependant an that arnt lookin for a list of qualifications as long as your arm

[Tj rodgers]

Looks like The help To Work Scheme hasnt started yet its set to start in the next 4 weeks as the companies who bid for the contract wernt told they would be given a contract by dwp until may and they wanted 6 weeks notice to start it up so your lookin it at things changing around 3rd or 4th week of june or even 1st week of july so keep your eyes peeled and your ears to the ground when visiting your jobcentre over the next month G4S, Learndirect and Seetec are 3 of the 6 companies to get the Help to work contract

[pauls33]

Not sure if this is old news (article dated yesterday)

 

 

345 organisations not going to take part in community placements

 

 

http://welfarenewsservice.com/workfare-scheme-holed-waterline-says-unite/

[Tj rodgers]

Not sure if this is old news (article dated yesterday)

 

 

345 organisations not going to take part in community placements

 

 

http://welfarenewsservice.com/workfare-scheme-holed-waterline-says-unite/

Yes they are mainly charities that want to keep voluntary work to volunteer's but 6 companies have since been given the "Help to Work" contract and 3 of them are G4S, Learn Direct and Seetec the other 3 want to remain anonymous so the dnt face a public back lash

[Tj rodgers]

The Help To Work Scheme is Set to Start in the next 4-6 weeks so Everybody keep your Eyes Peeled and Your Ear to the Ground when attending you jobcentre and give them plenty of jobsearch evidence

[pauls33]

Do you know who would send you on this scheme

 

 

would this come from your post work programme coach or could it just be from anyone that signs you on?

[Mr.P]

Community Work Placement suppliers

 

Contract package area Coverage Supplier

 

 

1. East of England – Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire; Cambridge and Suffolk; Essex; Norfolk – Seetec
   
2. East Midlands – Nottinghamshire; Derbyshire; Lincolnshire and Rutland; Leicestershire and Northamptonshire – G4S
   
3. London West – Ealing; Hammersmith and Fulham; Brent; Harrow; Hillingdon; Hounslow; Richmond Upon Thames; Kingston Upon Thames; Wandsworth; Enfield; Kensington and Chelsea; Barnet; Camden; Westminster; Islington; Haringey – G4S
   
4. London East – Hackney; Newham; Tower Hamlets; Barking and Dagenham; Redbridge; Havering; Waltham Forest; City of London; Croydon; Bexley; Lambeth; Bromley; Greenwich; Lewisham; Southwark; Merton and Sutton – G4S
   
5. North East Northumbria – South Tyne and Wear Valley; Tees Valley – Pertemps
   
6. North West 1 – Cumbria and Lancashire; Merseyside; Halton – G4S
   
7. North West 2 – Greater Manchester Central, Greater Manchester East and West, Cheshire and Warrington – Seetec
   
8. Scotland – Ayrshire, Dumfries, Galloway and Inverclyde; Edinburgh; Lothian and Borders; Forth Valley, Fife and Tayside; Glasgow; Highlands, Islands, Clyde Coast and Grampian – Learndirect
   
9. South East 1 – Hampshire and Isle of Wight; Thames Valley (Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire) – G4S
   
10. South East 2 – Kent; Surrey and Sussex – Seetec
    
11. South West 1 – Devon and Cornwall; Dorset and Somerset – Rehab
    
12. South West 2 – Gloucester, Wiltshire and Swindon; West of England – Seetec
    
13. Wales – North and Mid Wales, South West Wales; South Wales Valleys; South East Wales – Working Links
    
14. West Midlands 1 – Birmingham and Solihull; Black Country – Seetec
    
15. West Midlands 2 – Coventry and Warwickshire; Staffordshire; the Marches – Pertemps
    
16. West Yorkshire – Interserve
    
17. South Yorkshire – Interserve
    
18. North East Yorkshire and the Humber – G4S
    

(From DWP press release, 28th April: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/help-to-work-nationwide-drive-to-help-the-long-term-unemployed-into-work)

 

To finish off, a link to the CWP provider guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/community-work-placements-dwp-provider-guidance - Always good to know what they should be doing rather than letting them get away with making up the rules as they go along.

[dyfed]

Yes they are mainly charities that want to keep voluntary work to volunteer's but 6 companies have since been given the "Help to Work" contract and 3 of them are G4S, Learn Direct and Seetec the other 3 want to remain anonymous so the dnt face a public back lash

 

I say name and shame them.

Once we know who these slave masters are we can boycott and bully them. Afterall thats what they are doing to us for the crime of being unemployed.

[Tj rodgers]

Do you know who would send you on this scheme

 

 

would this come from your post work programme coach or could it just be from anyone that signs you on?

Anybody who u see regular at your jobcentre

[boomboomboom]

Do you know who would send you on this scheme

 

 

would this come from your post work programme coach or could it just be from anyone that signs you on?

 

will be your adviser not just a sign on person.

 

see in this work booklet for last time i signed on i put down i will sign up to more sites. can i put that down again this week?

 

as i have put down i will attend a interview and then put i attended my interview.

 

plus been told for my sign on make sure i put down what i will do for my next 2 weeks after this wed sign on day.

[boomboomboom]

30hours community work placement and 4hours led jobsearch a maximum of 10 hours jobsearch must be evidenced and recorded must say am not sure how i will do 10hours job search when u will be doing 30hours work basically 40hours jobsearch and working all for a £50+ a week that is the worst part its not even a lot of money we get paid

[leicesterguy]

will we still have to sign on during the cwp as we will probably be on the cwp monday to thursday for eight hours with a half hour break so 7.5 X four days = 30 hours

 

the supported job search will probably be on a friday for four hours where the provider could check we have done the ten hours and applied for jobs etc,

 

so thus would give us very little time to get to sign, Also this would be very similar to the old new deal work placement scheme which was for 13 weeks but no signing during that time.