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    • Good evening, so not a good weekend reviewing paperwork -- I have lost some proofs of postage.. also, although not provided at CCA, they have now supplied a DN in their WS, please see scan of claimants WS (without statements) Document with tick boxes as signatures doesn't look like an agreement and is split across pages. Documents have been stapled and copied multiple times looking at the top left of them. Aside from that, having read other threads, I suspect they have everything? appreciate your input please Sorry for heavy redactions, I noticed the paperwork was see-through LinkHalifaxCC1.compressed.pdf
    • Received a final demand today Final demand.pdf
    • Here is my final draft: I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in the claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act.   1.        The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date.   2.        I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment.   As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party.   3.        The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’.  The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents.   4.        Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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    • Hi folks, I've just found previous documentation. I thought it had gone missing. I'd forgotten that I did appeal it through POPLA but I can't find the thread on here that, I assume, I posted for help. Appeal letter is dated 27/10/2020 with a rejection. I genuinely had forgotten about this so apologies for misleading you. A lot has happened in the years since the ticket was issued. We closed down a couple of businesses and moved to the opposite end of the country to retire. The documents I have are scanned copies. I no longer have the originals. The NTK is also in there. If there's anything you'd like to see, please let me know and I'll post them, although it probably won't be until tomorrow now, but I'll be looking in on this page tonight. Thank you for the responses so far
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Hi, recently registered with copart and have purchased a vehicle.

I did not do any hpi or mileage check until I won the vehicle, I know silly me.

 

 

After I had won the auction I was curious and just did a mot history check online at and was shocked to find the mileage had been reversed a few years ago.

 

 

I haven't paid yet and contacted the manager to complain about the mileage being tampered with.

 

 

I got this message back.

 

Hello, thank you for your email. I have looked at lot **** and I see the following;

 

We listed this with an image showing there was an inconsistency with the mileage as per the attached image.

 

It is your responsibility to complete all pre-auction checks before deciding to bid or how much to bid.

 

The VRN of this vehicle is on the website for all to see and therefore you were able to complete a HPI or MOT check prior to the auction.

 

Furthermore in the additional information we listed that there was a discrepancy again please see attached image.

 

The sale of this vehicle will stand as we have advertised it correctly.

 

 

You have the option to enter this vehicle back into the auction once paid for if you no longer wish to keep the vehicle but we cannot guarantee how much it will generate.

 

 

The other option is not to pay for it and the vehicle will re-list for this you will incur a 10% fee of the hammer price.

 

Regards

 

Apart from the pictures of the car it did state there was discrepancy in the mileage showing at gov.uk MOT.

 

I thought it was illegal to even sell vehicles that's mileage had been tampered with.

Any help appreciated.

 

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they speak utter trip

 

 

you have 14 days under CRA and contract law to cancel as this was all done online.

 

 

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An issue I see is that you registered via there website and their Terms & Conditions throughout state your are a 'Trade Member': https://www.copart.co.uk/Content/uk/en/Member-Terms-and-Conditions#uk

 

Did you take any screenshots of the Action vehicle website link you viewed to bid on vehicle?

 

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I don't think cra right to reject applies to cars sold at auction because they're all sold as seen and roadworthiness is not guaranteed.

You'll find this in their t&c.

 

Buying cars at auction is always a risk and this is reflected in the price you pay.

 

About the mileage,

it is not illegal to sell a vehicle with doctored mileage, as long as the seller tells you about it.

 

In this case they state that the advert included two notes about the mileage discrepancy,

so they have done nothing wrong.

 

Many cars have mileage discrepancy,

for example when dashboard display is replaced.

That doesn't make the sale illegal.

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How many miles have been clocked.

If it's only 20/30k and you paid scrap money, why not keep it and see how it runs.

I had an old Peugeot 405 with 190k miles on it and I was planning to keep it for 6 months.

It served me well for 6 years before failing the mot.

You never know...

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they speak utter trip

 

 

you have 14 days under CRA and contract law to cancel as this was all done online.

 

 

dx

 

Sorry DX, that's wrong.

 

 

Auctions are buyer beware and that is well known and founded in case law over and over again.

 

The only exception to this is where goods have been deliberately or even accidentally missadvertised.

They you could make a claim.

 

As said, they did advertise the discrepancies and the reg was there for all to check.

 

Auction is where the caveat emptor really applies.

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Auction or not it was advertised that there was a discrepancy in the mileage and if the only issue is the mileage I don't understand why OP is so shocked about it and went ahead knowing there is a discrepancy in the mileage.

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How many miles have been clocked.

If it's only 20/30k and you paid scrap money, why not keep it and see how it runs.

I had an old Peugeot 405 with 190k miles on it and I was planning to keep it for 6 months.

It served me well for 6 years before failing the mot.

You never know...

It shows this when I check mot history.

 

 

Test date
22 March 2016Expiry date
29 March 2017Test Result
PassOdometer reading
81,869 miles

 

 

Test date
30 March 2015Expiry date
29 March 2016Test Result
PassOdometer reading
72,097 miles

 

 

Test date
31 December 2013Expiry date
17 January 2015Test Result
PassOdometer reading
214,411 miles

 

 

Test date
3 January 2013Expiry date
17 January 2014Test Result
PassOdometer reading
119,488 miles

 

 

Test date
18 January 2012Expiry date
17 January 2013Test Result
PassOdometer reading
35,325 miles

 

 

Test date
14 September 2011Expiry date
13 September 2012Test Result
PassOdometer reading
27,748 miles

 

 

Test date
25 March 2011Expiry date
24 March 2012Test Result
PassOdometer reading
20,784 miles

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Ex taxi with a replaced odometer springs to mind.

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next time you want to buy a car at auction, go along and look at it with someone who really knows about cars. The RAC will even inspect a vehicle you are interested in for a fee and I'm sure there are other organisatiosn that offer a similar service.

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