Article 50 Discussion

[fletch70]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/far-right-group-britain-first-says-5000-members-joined-tories-11970687/

 

Owned and printed by the same people who own and print the Daily Mail- 

 

Now go on and answer the question 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-far-right-extremists-join-conservatives-support-britain-first-a9252201.html

[Maharg1]

Well, if you are going to be petty and try one-upmanship

http://vote-watch.co.uk/watch-the-26-times-corbyn-supported-anti-semitism-and-terrorism/

https://labourhatesjews.wordpress.com/2017/06/05/29-examples-of-labour-anti-semitism/

 

 

[honeybee13]

If the next Labour leader has any sense, they will address the problem of anti-semitism.

 

Meanwhile Bojo has dumbed down the anti-islamist enquiry the Conservatives were going to have, after he promised Sajid Javid he would hold one during the leadership debates.

[fletch70]

27 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

Well, if you are going to be petty and try one-upmanship

http://vote-watch.co.uk/watch-the-26-times-corbyn-supported-anti-semitism-and-terrorism/

https://labourhatesjews.wordpress.com/2017/06/05/29-examples-of-labour-anti-semitism/

 

 

That was not the point being discussed now was it? 
 

You did not trust the validity of the Guardian so I provided alternatives.

 

Now go on, I dare you

Answer the question if you can 

[Maharg1]

You're a loser, I don't answer to people like you who thinks they are always right and everyone else is wrong.

[AndyOrch]

Really getting very personal this chaps...time to take a break ?

[fletch70]

4 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

You're a loser, I don't answer to people like you who thinks they are always right and everyone else is wrong.

Or anyone else who questions your claims by the looks of it. 
 

Take a look in the mirror before calling anyone else a loser 

[Maharg1]

1 minute ago, Andyorch said:

Really getting very personal this chaps...time to take a break ?

We're having fun, let us be

[Maharg1]

1 minute ago, fletch70 said:

Or anyone else who questions your claims by the looks of it. 
 

Take a look in the mirror before calling anyone else a loser 

lol - The Mirror is even more red than the Morning Star

[Peterbard]

1 hour ago, Maharg1 said:

We're having fun, let us be

 

Aye, until someone answers you in the same insulting way. Then all of a sudden, its not fun anymore.

[honeybee13]

1 hour ago, Maharg1 said:

We're having fun, let us be

 

Guys, if we can't have a reasoned discussion without name calling, Andyorch will do what he said. It would be a shame for the thread.

[Maharg1]

It matters not to me what happens to this thread, it's just a load of remoaners whinging and throwing their toys out of their prams

and ganging up on the glorious winners of Brexit and the Election just because they didn't get their way

[fletch70]

All I wanted was an answer to my question.

 

Here are more

 

Do you think the Brexit vote was down party lines or were there Tories who voted remain and Labour who voted leave.

 

I doubt I will get answers to them either.

 

I think before anyone celebrates we should wait to see what the consequences are. I fear there could be dire problems if a reasonable deal isn’t struck.

 

There are still so many important unanswered questions. 
 

Again, for the record, I have no problem who voted leave if they have a coherent and considered reason for doing so (unless of course the reasons are racist and some definitely were). 

 

[brassnecked]

If it can't be kept civil I agree with HB and Andyorch, that the thread be closed.

[Maharg1]

First off a deal is two way, the EU stands to lose more than we do.

 

Immigration was a factor and not as you would hope to promote on a racist line, it was the totally uninhibited amount of people allowed in

mainly illegal economic migrants who listened to Germanys Mercal who said everyone is welcome knowing that they weren't refugees and

would claim asylum in the first country they came to but all want to come to the UK.  Just take a look at France today.

 

 

[Maharg1]

3 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

If it can't be kept civil I agree with HB and Andyorch, that the thread be closed.

We are civil, it's the Left Wing moderators who are the problem.

[Maharg1]

6 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

If it can't be kept civil I agree with HB and Andyorch, that the thread be closed.

Meaning of Brassneck in the Cambridge Dictionary

 

"a type of behaviour where someone is extremely confident about their own actions but does not understand that their behaviour is unacceptable to others:" 

[brassnecked]

Oh I know my behaviour, or advice is not palatable to all at all times , but then whose is?  Its pointless just flaming people it does nothing for the debate.

[Maharg1]

This thread is dead anyway, the Article 50 discussion is dead, lets move on.

How about we debate the lies about climate change instead ?

[Jase1982]

34 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

If it can't be kept civil I agree with HB and Andyorch, that the thread be closed.

 

In all honesty, I think the thread has generally been quite civil and has opened up quite a bit of debate.  Its only when Maharg1 gets involved because he's clearly on a wind up.  "Don't feed the troll" has never been more apt.

[honeybee13]

10 minutes ago, Maharg1 said:

This thread is dead anyway, the Article 50 discussion is dead, lets move on.

How about we debate the lies about climate change instead ?

 

Feel free to start a new thread in the Bear Garden about it, Maharg.

[Maharg1]

16 minutes ago, Jase1982 said:

 

In all honesty, I think the thread has generally been quite civil and has opened up quite a bit of debate.  Its only when Maharg1 gets involved because he's clearly on a wind up.  "Don't feed the troll" has never been more apt.

 

See, you just don't like opposition.  How can it be a good thread if everyone on here is of the same ilk.

I don't think moderators should get involved at all on threads like this.  They change it to how they want it and the proof is in tobyjugg signature

 

"Please don't assume what you see here is what I wrote - At least some of my posts HAVE been edited without my knowledge or agreement - or anything showing people they have been amended "

 

When a moderator with a different political view deliberately deletes sections to change the meaning of a post, that is wrong especially if they do

it and don't acknowledge the fact.  Promoting your view by stealth is wrong.

 

[fletch70]

Have you ever thought it might be TJ being mistaken? Or it might be that they have written something the mods feel is insulting or inappropriate and removed it.

 

I have had plenty of run ins with mods but can honestly say they have never changed the meaning of anything. 

[determindator]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

 

Feel free to start a new thread in the Bear Garden about it, Maharg.

 

[tobyjugg2]

6 hours ago, fletch70 said:

Do not avoid the questions

 

 

LOL LOL LOL

Says no3 behind Maharg1 and Jase

 

 

and Just stop feeding @maharg1 when he posts horsecrap - which is 99% of the time

and the other 1% will almost certainly already have been answered in this thread anyway

 

 

 

... oh and I am in no way whatsoever mistaken about a number of my posts having been deleted/hidden and/or edited without my agreement, notification or anything showing they had been edited.

 

HB has decently marked about 2 of those edits as such I think - a number of others I KNOW have had nothing whatsoever to mark them as edited

God knows how many others I (and those later reading) don't know about .. which is the point - whatever they are edited for