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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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In other Article 50 news , questions are being asked in parliament about the supply of bog roll in the event of a no deal Brexit. So many benefits to Brexit it seems.

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Can always buy a few useless  misleading newspapers, cut them up and thread them with string like in the alleged good old days of outside privvy, 'tween the wars. Be like Zan Izal all over again.  bit harsh for a snowflakes bottom possibly.

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toilet paper wouldn't be needed

.. as *it would all be hitting the fan ..

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Ironically it may increase sales of the Mail /Express for Arse Wiping purposes.

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15 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

 Zan Izal all over again

 

That would be the glossy pages from the Sunday versions of the daily rags wouldn't it?

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One last one:

 

We can wash instead of wipe.

All together:

 

Buns that do Brexit can feel soft as your face

With mild green fairy liquid.

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This is so fundamentally depressing , humour is needed.

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And there was I suggesting addressing a shortage with a tried and tested method from 'oop north, when cash is tight.  Seriously might be used by foodbanks for victims of Universal Credit. We now have a parliament that is well past it's sell by date.

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On a mixed blessing lighter note

 

If i'm reading the signs correctly, which is by no means certain, Cummings may be goings - with a raftload of johnsons blame on his head

 

Why mixed blessing - it will make Johnson more popular in various areas and he'll have a patsy to point the finger at.

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https://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-boris-johnson-moves-to-scrap-environment-and-gmo-safeguards-to-get-deal-with-trump/5691400

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/10063334/boris-johnson-level-playing-field-eu-brexit/

 

 

 

When Boris Johnson used his first three speeches as UK Prime Minister to flag up his desire to “liberate” GMOs as part of Brexit, we warned that this meant his priority was doing a trade deal with Donald Trump at any cost. Johnson, we said, was “simply dancing, puppet-like, to Trump’s tune”.

Now a Cabinet source has told the Brexit-supporting Sun newspaper that Johnson is scrapping a commitment by his predecessor, Theresa May, to stick to European Union rules on the environment, safety standards (that would include GMO foods and crops, as well as pesticides) and workers’ rights.

“The level-playing-field promise has to go, and Boris is very clear about this,” the ministerial source told the Sun. “It would seriously restrict our ability to deregulate and to do trade deals with other countries.”

The Independent has reported EU officials as saying,

“British negotiators are particularly keen to jettison EU restrictions on genetically modified foods – a key demand of American trade negotiators.”

One EU official with knowledge of the Brexit talks also told The Independent that

“US trade officials appeared to have been in contact with British negotiators and told them standards would need to be slashed if there was any chance of a US trade deal.”

This has also been the message from US agribusiness, with the head of the American Farm Bureau recently making clear that the UK must accept US food standards as part of any future trade deal with Washington.

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Note that it would put johnsons suggested Canada ++ completely outside any possibility.

 

USA vassalage is largely all that leaves ..

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Not great, is it TJ? Up until now, Europe have saved us from having to eat GMOs and so on and I would really not like to start.

 

Weird times, I was looking at the headlines yesterday and thinking how unbelievable it is that the PM could be held in contempt of court and that he could be summoned by the GLA [Greater London Authority] over one of three separate enquiries into his behaviour in office.

 

Can anyone remember when a PM was this beset by legal issues?

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Interesting article in the London Evening Standard yesterday with figures from YouGov.

 

The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since.

 

One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties.

 

So far this year, just one poll in the series has put Leave ahead, compared to 74 for staying in the EU. 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-britain-against-leaving-eu-as-poll-of-polls-says-most-now-want-to-stay-a4257476.html

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The LSE poll is too narrow as it will only attract its london-centric readers, where Remain was majority, Leave was a North and Wales phenomenon, so its too close to call.  The legal shenanigans are very dangerous Constitutionally, and they are playing with fire.

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Polls are not a reliable indicator, as the companies muck around with wording of question and methodology.

 

To be reliable same question and exact method would be required over months. Does not happen!

 

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UB is correct, which is why Samuel Clements, aka mark Twain, referred to "Lies, damned lies and statistics"  only arbiter will be a general Election.

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There definitely is no concrete proof in any poll.  If proof of how rubbish and misleading they are, just take the in/out referendum polls.

they all said there would be a massive remain vote and it turned out the exact opposite.

Life is so much better and happier as an Optimist than a boring depressed Pessimist

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6 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

From CityAM talking about the same poll.

 

The series includes polls that were conduct across the whole of the UK, as well as polls limited to Great Britain.

 

https://www.cityam.com/britain-would-now-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu-mega-poll-reveals/

 

 

Too true HB and all polls doubts aside, when you consider the ACTUAL votes that have occurred

 

The European elections

- 11 less eurosceptic MEP's wasn't it - A big win despite some smaller gains for Farage

 

Peterborough by-election - 'Brexit heartland'

- Didn't vote in the Brexit Party despite Farage throwing everything at it including a 'celebrity candidate'

 

Brecon and Radnorshire by-election 

- Libdems from the cons

 

 

 

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