moral issues applying for a job

[mrs nathan fillion]

Sorry if this is the wrong place but i couldnt decide if i should put it here or the job centre section.

 

Im on jobseekers and worried if i dont apply for a job at a capita call centre that the job centre will sanction me but i dont feel comfortable working for a company that has caused ill and disabled people so many problems and distress. Like, if i get to the interview process how do i hide my hate for them, how do i go to work everyday knowing i am taking money from a company who is part of a system that is hellbent on robbing a sizable part of society of their dignity and even their lives? I would be very greatful for any advice

[Emmzzi]

Hi,

 

DWP will take the view that you can have morals on your own expense not the taxpayers I am afraid. So I would be inclined to increase efforts to find work somewhere more aligned with your values, or throw the interview with subtlety.

[honeybee13]

Hello there.

 

As your query is connected with the job centre, I've moved you to the benefits forum for further advice.

 

HB

[mrs nathan fillion]

Thanks honeybee.

 

 

 

Another problem is i dont want to work in a call centre full stop, been there, done that and hated it. In the exact same building but under a different owner. Ive been through months of updating my qualifications so i can go into admin not back into a call centre. Oh yeah, ive not been mandated to apply, just given the info

[MrHat]

I'd redouble your efforts to find what you are looking for then.

 

Also, there is nothing wrong with taking a job somewhere whilst continuing those efforts.

 

Emmzzi is spot on imo

[Mr.P]

I've not been mandated to apply, just given the info

 

If a DWP Employment Officer has given you the information, it may well have been recorded on their computer system as a Jobseeker's Direction and/or a notified vacancy. Failing to follow up on the vacancy without good reason could lead to a benefit doubt being raised and then having to fight a sanction.

 

I was in a similar position a few years back when I was advised of an admin vacancy with a dubious company (the firm claimed to reduce unwanted telesales calls and junk mail). I rejected it on the grounds that I could be required to breach any number of rules & regulations and the business engaged in morally (as well as legally) questionable practices.... Looks like the directors of said company are now in the dock accused of a £9m fraud.

[mrs nathan fillion]

I figured as much, i have to admit i was hoping it wouldnt be the case. Thanks everyone

[Jedicris]

What makes you think you will actually be offered the job?

[mrs nathan fillion]

What makes you think you will actually be offered the job?

 

I did say if. Nice way to try and kick someone in the stomach though. Did you ever learn dont say anything at all if you cant say something nice

[fishfingered]

I think it's more immoral to live off the taxpayer than to work for an evil company. And I hope that at least this post won't be censored.

Edited June 12, 2016 by fishfingered

[honeybee13]

I think it's more immoral to live off the taxpeyer than to work for an evil company. And I hope that at least this post won't be censored.

 

fishfingered, if you've had posts removed, it's possible that they were against site rules. I would like to invite you to read them, it may explain things for you.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?9-Forum-rules.-Please-read-these-before-posting(1-Viewing)-nbsp

 

HB

[fletch70]

I think it's more immoral to live off the taxpayer than to work for an evil company. And I hope that at least this post won't be censored.

 

Following that argument, you are saying that the Eichmann was less immoral than someone who doesn't work. It has been argued by academics that Eichmann was actually a remarkably ordinary man and not the evil monster that has been portrayed. He was allegedly a moderate achiever who ended up in his job almost by accident.

May I suggest you read a few books:

 

A major one Modernity and the Holocaust (Bauman).

Eichmann in Jerusalem ( Arendt)

[honeybee13]

Can we get back to advising the OP now please?

 

HB

[Jedicris]

I did say if. Nice way to try and kick someone in the stomach though. Did you ever learn dont say anything at all if you cant say something nice

Wasn't meant that way.

Sorry if you can't see the hint.

[Shoelover]

I would just apply. If you get it then just concentrate on doing your best to assist the people you deal with.

 

Capita are paid to do what the government ask. The government pay benefits.. Not having a go, just saying don't think about it too deeply.

[fletch70]

I would agree with Emmzzi , the DWP won't take your moral stance into consideration. If you really don't want the job there are plenty of truthful ways of sabotaging your application without appearing to have done so.

[citizenB]

I can think of nothing worse than having to work in a call centre - other than not keeping my self respect by having no job at all !

[mrs nathan fillion]

Please just delete this thread, obviously having feelings towards other human beings is not as important as getting money from murdering [edited]

Edited June 13, 2016 by honeybee13
Pejorative term removed.

[fletch70]

Hi

I think you mistake many peoples true feelings with pragmatism.

 

You came asking for advice which is what was given, you did not ask what our opinions of capita was . I think what most of us stand for is quite clear from reading other threads on the forum. It is not about any judgement, moral or otherwise on Capita , it is about how the DWP may react should you refuse to apply for such a job.

 

As I said, there are many ways to legitimately screw up an interview without calling them murdering [edited] or indeed giving the dip any reason to sanction you.

 

There is of course the thought that you might actually be able to quietly do some good as a 5th column within the organisation although I realise that is difficult and takes a calm head and precise planning. A calm head is something that you may struggle with.

 

From reading the replies there seems only one non supportive response and that person is fully employed building bridges

Edited June 13, 2016 by honeybee13
Quote of pejorative word removed.

[Mr.P]

obviously having feelings towards other human beings is not as important as getting money from [Capita]

 

Quite the reverse. I fully support you with any moral objections you have towards any company. I for one will refuse to even consider applying for a job if it involves "telesales" or any other questionable activity.

 

CAG do not routinely delete threads, and this one does raise a very real concern. To prevent any of the serial trolls posting their poison, thread closed.