Parking 'Fine' LDK Security

[keekeedee]

Hi,

 

I hope someone can help,

 

 

I have searched on here and see differing replies.

 

 

I received a parking fine from LDK Security, I was 10 minutes late back to the car.

It was in a place in the middle of Newcastle City Centre, that I did not realise was privately owned.

 

 

As I got back to my car there was actually a traffic warden placing tickets on cars on the street next to where I was parked.

 

 

 

 

I approached him to try and get my ticket removed.

That's when he informed me it was a private area.

 

 

His advice was not to pay it as they are not enforceable!!

 

 

He was actually at the time about to put a ticket on the car of the lady who was issuing tickets in the private car park!

 

I've been really busy and to be honest forgot about this fine, so it hasn't been paid.

 

 

I have now received an issue for £125 fine for non payment of the ticket.

 

 

Researching on here and online majority say ignore, some say to pay.

 

What is the situation now, as most posts I've found about this company are a year or two old.

 

Thanks in advance; I'm sorry if this is in another thread I couldn't find anything upto date.

[Bazooka Boo]

Ignoring PPC tickets is the old advice, and is no longer relevant

 

Wait for the NTK before you appeal, DO NOT identify yourself as the driver!

 

ericsbrother will be able to advise you in how to defeat these unenforceable speculative invoices, and whatever you do DON'T pay a thing!

[keekeedee]

Hi and thanks Bazooka Boo!

 

Maybe sound stupid here what's NTK?

 

looking forward to ericbrother's advice.

 

Thanks!

[silverfox1961]

Hi

NTK= Notice to Keeper.

 

If the letter you have received is the NTK (or similarly stated) then it is time to appeal to LDK first. They will likely reject any appeal as this would lose them money but when they do, they should issue a POPLA code. This is when you do the full appeal as it will cost LDK money-not you.

 

Even if POPLA rejected your appeal, LDK would still have to go to court to enforce this 'ticket' and there are many companies that don't like doing this as they tend to lose more than they gain from a court case.

[dx100uk]

I hope none of their papwerork is using the word fine?

 

 

where did that come from?

 

 

simply your mistake?

 

 

its an unenforceable speculative invoice

 

 

as the council warden said - and not a fine

[keekeedee]

'Fine' was my word. It is an 'outstanding Parking Charge Notice'.

 

I have received the NTK letter.

 

The curve ball in here is, the car is mine, was registered in my father in laws name,where the NTK was sent too, now though is in the process of being re-registered in my name, all forms with DVLA as we speak, so the new keeper is me... what do you recommend?

 

Thanks

[SabreSheep]

Advise your Father in law to come on here and appeal. He does not need to name you

[ericsbrother]

Dates of event and date your FiL received the NTK please. When we know these we can advise best course of action.

[keekeedee]

Date of charge - 13/05/2015

Date of notice - 26/06/2015

 

The letter was sent to my father in law, who was the registered keeper. I am now the registered keeper of the car, just received all the documents through the post.

 

No contact Has been made with LDK SECURITY GROUP ltd or PCS Who, have sent up the notice to keeper.

[ericsbrother]

If you are happy to take the matter on then you can respond to the NTK sent to FiL as the current keeper and say that something like the signage is too confusing to creat a contract. Let them then do the running after you rather than anyone else.

[keekeedee]

Well it is me who was in the wrong place so it's my problem. Do we have any template letters

i could use?

 

Or do i get FiL to reply saying wasn't him and he's not keeper of the car?

[Bazooka Boo]

There are no templates no, you just need to appeal on any ground really, what you want is them to issue you with a POPLA code.

 

You could appeal saying that as the cow failed to jump over the moon, you're not in breach of any alleged contract.

[ericsbrother]

as long as they know that they are to deal with you then you can say anything but that car park has been commented on before if I recall correctly and the signage question was the clincher for getting the demand cancelled.

[keekeedee]

So i just reply to their NTK letter saying I am the keeper not my FiL and the car was parked there, i believe the charge not to be vaild because the signage was not clear?

[Bazooka Boo]

Just respond to the NTK, you've no need to explain anything, just that you are appealing the ticket and require they issue you with a POPLA code.

[silverfox1961]

Agreed. If you feel the urge to name a driver, stop. Always speak in the third party by saying 'The driver', not a named person

[keekeedee]

It says I can use the online form, where it wants me to complete my details, name address, telephone number etc and options being 'driver, keeper, driver&prehistoric keeper, hirer/ lease, or non of the Above'

 

Or.

 

On the form to complete and post, it a asks for

Appeal details and again name address contact number and signature.

 

For the appeal do I literally write, I am appealing the issue of this ticket and require to be issued with a POPLA code

 

And no more,

 

Put my name and address as the contact, not admitting to being driver and NOT sign it?

 

Sorry for all questions need to get this right.

Thanks

[ericsbrother]

youare appealing as the registered keeper/owner of the vehicle. Do not mention the driver in any capacity as you are in the middle of a process that concerns the keeper and no-one else.

Personally I would post the appeal, that way it is easier to create a paper trail as you can get a proof of posting when you send the letter and that starts a clock for them to do their bit. They already have your address or they wouldnt have been able to send the NTK. What they dont have is any information about the driver at the time.

[silverfox1961]

Hi

I sense an air of hesitation here. I am a little concerned over the keeper issue. You were not the keeper at the time of the alleged offence so in my view, your fil should be the appellant or to protect both of you, get his authorisation to act on his behalf.

 

I just think you should be above board when dealing with these companies.

[keekeedee]

Thanks both, I wasn't the registered keeper at the time and the NTK went to mph FiL. I am however now the registered keeper, so all correspondence should be coming to me. So is it best to reply saying I am replying on behalf of FIL who was the was the keeper at the time and no longer is I am... Then ask for POPLA in same letter or wai until I receive a reply?

 

Thanks

[armadillo71]

You being RK now has nothing to do with this charge.

 

It concerns the keeper at the date of the event/ RK at date of event or the driver.

 

You do as silverfox has advised post #19.

 

Either state that you were the KEEPER at the time and provide your name and address for correspondence, or state that you are

 

responding on behalf of the REGISTERED KEEPER. ( your fil)

[keekeedee]

I have sent this email this morning. as I'vee run out of ink for my printer, will send letter today also when this problem is solved!

 

........

 

Parking Collection Service

PO Box 271

Ashton Under Lyne

OL6 0DL

 

18th July

 

Ref:

Charge Date: 13/05/2015

Parking Charge Ref Number: ...

Vehicle Registration Number: ....

 

To Whom It May Concern:

 

I write on behalf of ***, the registered keeper of the car at the time, as he has given me his authorization to do so.

 

We appeal this ticket and require us to be issued with a POPLA code at this time.

 

I look forward to your reply.

Regards

***

 

 

Will that suffice?

Edited July 21, 2015 by honeybee13
Names removed.

[dpick]

I appealed LDK ticket with POPLA using gpol and won LDK did not send any information to POPLA so POPLA had to refuse LDK for not giving any evidence

 

dpick

[honeybee13]

Hello there.

 

I have taken the names out of your letter, to keep this anonymous.

 

HB

[keekeedee]

Hello there.

 

I have taken the names out of your letter, to keep this anonymous.

 

HB

 

Thanks!!