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The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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Anglian water 'debt' was wescot, now Past due credit chasing


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discount offers usually mean no debt exists

 

they are trying to fleece you.

 

ignore them

 

dx

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I think that's the idea!

 

Remember, there's no law (so far as I'm aware) against them making all kinds of threatening noises so that's what they do.

 

The really significant thing they've said is the discount offer.

 

In my limited experience, that's a sure sign they've got no case against you.

 

Ask yourself, if they have a genuine case, why don't they just take you to court instead of harrassing you?

 

Their behaviour gives them away.

 

If they had any real power they'd be using it.

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Ive had no contact from LCS for over a week. The last threatogram gave me 72 hours to pay up or they are going to take me to court. The also offered a discount. Im now getting concerned that the next letter will be the dreaded court summons :(

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OK I thought this had gone away!! Clearly not.

 

about 6 months ago I had a letter from Wescot saying I owe Anglian Water £900 from a previous address.

 

I challenged them with a prove it letter which they were unable to do.

 

That was the last I heard from Wescot.

 

Then a letter from LCS re: the same debt.

 

They were writing constantly making all kinds of threats.

 

I ignored every letter and they just went away.

 

Then, today a formal demand from Past Due Credit Solutions for the £900 allegedly owed to.AW.

 

1) If this debt had any substance and they are certain im liable would'nt Wescot have seen it through?

2) Shall I just ignore these idiots or send a prove it letter? This seemed to work with LCS.

 

PLEASE HELP

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So do you owe Anglian any debt or not ?

 

Is there any dispute about the water bill ?

 

Wescot don't always follow through.

 

I would suggest that you write back to PDCS asking them to prove that this alleged debt exists. Advise them that you have previously been contacted by Wescot and they could not provide any proof. Send the letter by recorded delivery.

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What have AW got to say about it?

 

IMO a prove it letter is the only thing I would send, if anything! Send it then ignore. If you don't owe this money to AW then you need to start their complaints procedure and exhaust it.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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To my knowledge I owe Anglian Water nothing. Wescot told me that they acted in good faith and have conducted a credit reference trace. However it appears im not the individual they seek and apologised

 

Check your credit record. When 2 DCA's contact you about a debt that is not yours, it seems a bit odd.

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And start a formal complaint with AW, this is something they need to sort out.

 

Agree. Unless you sort this out with Anglian, this could drag on for years.

We could do with some help from you.

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you already had a thread running

 

I've merged the threads AGAIN.

 

the debt is sadly due as you were living with the ex when it occurred

 

and

 

she was paying it until march 2009

 

so its not SB'd yet.

 

however, the last lot offred a discount

 

so somethings up with it.

 

PDC are bottom feeders that chase debt no-one else will take on

or have given up on.

 

pers i'd be ignoring them.

 

if AW wanted their money They'd have you in court.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi

 

I apologise for starting another thread. I just pursumed that because it was another DCA that an alternative thread was needed.

 

This debt and others are all in my past.

 

I cant talk to my girlfriend about them because im embarrassed.

 

In fact the only people I can talk to is you guys.

 

Everyone has been a real help especially dx.

 

say these debts are are getting on top of me is an understatement.

 

The last thing I want is to come home and have to hide letters from DCA's from my partner,

then lay awake at night wondering what to do.

 

The last thing I wanted to do dx was upset you and I apologise.

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If the water bill was in your ex-wifes name,

then I expect that for some reason she has refused to pay for a period.

 

Because you were resident at the address and therefore they can make you liable for your usage,

then they are chasing you.

 

But I suspect that it is not that straightforward taking you to court, if the bill was in your ex-wifes name

 

The question would arise as to why they were not issuing a court claim against your ex-wife.

 

You could just write back that you are disputing any liability for this debt,

as the property concerned where the water usage was incurred is your ex-wifes residence and the bill was in her name.

 

Suggest to them that they refer the matter back to Anglian to ensure that this account is dealt with properly.

We could do with some help from you.

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