Benefit Sanctioned

[MIKEY DABODEE]

What an odd rule.

 

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It is also, they dont get the SDP if entitled even, as they have no address

AJACS pronounced AJAX is an electronic diary, each Jobcentre has one, appointments are made in the AJACS diary for such things like counter payments, handing things in etc etc. Contact centre staff can book a appointment in the diary, if someone calls up and needs to go into the jobcentre, we can book people in as well...

Edited June 4, 2012 by MIKEY DABODEE

[MIKEY DABODEE]

Hello guys.

 

I have unapproved a couple of posts for consideration by the site team. They may be reinstated later.

 

My best, HB

 

Perhaps best left unapproved

[mark1trucker]

Hello guys.

 

I have unapproved a couple of posts for consideration by the site team. They may be reinstated later.

 

My best, HB

 

That's ok leave them unapproved, don't see why though its true what these people are and should be exposed but whatever its ok with me

[count orlok]

I can't believe people get £1400 a week on benefits even if they have a couple of disabled kids. The most anyone can get on DLA is £131.50 per week and there is no way they'd get that if they didn't deserve it and need it. Besides most (or even all) of that would go on expenses most do not need to fund.

 

I don't know how much one gets for kids, but the rate for a couple is only £111.45 (as a pensioner couple we spend more than that on our weekly food shop) per week, those under 25 only get about half that.

 

I got all these figures from the gov.

 

You'll never convince me people go through all this by choice.

[MIKEY DABODEE]

some couples can have eight to ten childrem, the couple ususally has DLA each so couple disabled premium, Carers Allowance , so this gives them CP. Their grounds to I.S can be Carers or IB

 

lots of the children can have DLA full awards, we pay just under £65 per week for each child, plus the children with DLA get DCP, and sometimes EDCP. can add on £80 or more per child extra for the children with the DLA

This can all add up, now add on housing benefit.

If CTC are in payment as apposed to I.S then similar amounts are paid

 

There is not much difference in the amount paid for an over 25 and a child.

And strangely if the customer is under 25 and lives on there own, the child would get more and they live with their parents

 

I agree nobody would choose this as a way of life.

I think this has now run its course......

Edited June 4, 2012 by MIKEY DABODEE

[antone]

That's ok leave them unapproved, don't see why though its true what these people are and should be exposed but whatever its ok with me

 

Again, no-one doubts, I don't think, that there are people out there playing the system. But the issue is that here, on this forum, we wish to provide a place where people can get help with their benefit problems without being judged. So we have some rules about how we discuss things. In general, this isn't really a place for discussion about politics, but we do acknowledge that our subject matter means that political topics will come up from time to time, especially with all the recent welfare reform legislation. So, in the interests of allowing people the chance to exchange information and ideas with others who have an interest in the subject, we don't squash every political discussion the moment it starts.

 

However, in some cases, there's a risk that a thread or post will interfere with our primary purpose, which is the provision of benefits advice which is impartial, non-judgemental, and as accurate as we can possibly make it. If benefit claimants or JCP staff are insulted or harassed here, we are less able to do this.

 

There is a CAG forum called The Bear Garden, where some more latitude is given, and you're welcome to start topics there.

[Nystagmite]

And strangely if the customer is under 25 and lives on there own, the child would get more and they live with their parents

 

I've never understood this at all.

[MIKEY DABODEE]

I've never understood this at all.

 

 

Nor me, I know nobody would like to see any child live in poverty but a single person on there own surely needs more money......

[mark1trucker]

Again, no-one doubts, I don't think, that there are people out there playing the system. But the issue is that here, on this forum, we wish to provide a place where people can get help with their benefit problems without being judged. So we have some rules about how we discuss things. In general, this isn't really a place for discussion about politics, but we do acknowledge that our subject matter means that political topics will come up from time to time, especially with all the recent welfare reform legislation. So, in the interests of allowing people the chance to exchange information and ideas with others who have an interest in the subject, we don't squash every political discussion the moment it starts.

 

However, in some cases, there's a risk that a thread or post will interfere with our primary purpose, which is the provision of benefits advice which is impartial, non-judgemental, and as accurate as we can possibly make it. If benefit claimants or JCP staff are insulted or harassed here, we are less able to do this.

 

There is a CAG forum called The Bear Garden, where some more latitude is given, and you're welcome to start topics there.

 

Point taken thanks, i do have very strong views and opinions about the system and certain people using the system and believe things won't change for the better if there isn't enough support to bring about the right changes so the system is used correctly.

[SWLABR9]

Pointless to worry about these thing when they pale into absolute insignificance in the face of the complete chaos the introduction of UC will precipitate. The benefits system will probably simply cease to be when that happens. Maybe that's the plan.

[MIKEY DABODEE]

our office has been chosen to process UC, I think one of eight offices around the country, the benefit system we have now is out of date, UC is coming in can it be any worse then the mess we have now? who know we will have to wait and see...

They are bringing UC in, in stages, the benefit system will not cease beleive me

[debt4get]

I think your right mikey it wont cease but think it will be more difficult to access...but time will tell...however, I am more concerned with the influence of big private companies with their hands in this particular pie..and can envisage the day when public servants will no longer be needed to do the role you are doing at the moment...and I can honestly see companies like w2w being given the responsibility to decide and pay who or who is not eligible....they are already attempting to push the public sector to the limit...work longer, harder, for less..pay more for your pension for longer...look at the possible savings they could achieve if they did this...minimum wage...easy system to administrate.....one universal credit...dont need public servants now to do this job.....

[debt4get]

can someone give me from site team give me a link to the 'bear garden' went through the menu but for life of me cant find it...

[MIKEY DABODEE]

I think your right mikey it wont cease but think it will be more difficult to access...but time will tell...however, I am more concerned with the influence of big private companies with their hands in this particular pie..and can envisage the day when public servants will no longer be needed to do the role you are doing at the moment...and I can honestly see companies like w2w being given the responsibility to decide and pay who or who is not eligible....they are already attempting to push the public sector to the limit...work longer, harder, for less..pay more for your pension for longer...look at the possible savings they could achieve if they did this...minimum wage...easy system to administrate.....one universal credit...dont need public servants now to do this job.....

 

and dont forget the regional wage, paid less if you live in the north then the south, i wonder if we will become the norm.

imagine if that filtered through to the benefit system......

[down'n'out]

........give me a link to the 'bear garden'.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?23-The-Bear-Garden

[debt4get]

and dont forget the regional wage, paid less if you live in the north then the south, i wonder if we will become the norm.

imagine if that filtered through to the benefit system......

nothing this lot does or will do no longer surprises me...disappoints me but not surprises...and it would not be beyond them to do this......I am in wales so regional pay here for public servants has already become an issue with the teaching profession, medical, nursing staff etc...divide and rule...

[osdset]

Looks like the big roll out of Universal credit in October next year will be a rather more muted affair http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/3135/

[SickAndTireddd]

The Sanctions are pushing the country into poverty in a big way. I'm currently unemployed but busting my backside trying to find the jobs that just are not there.. They are filling our country up on immigration and then sanctioning us when we cant find jobs...

I lost my job as a construction worker because it was cheaper for my employer to take on 2 polish guys who have no regard or knowledge for health and safety, so i was paid off....

I was Sanctioned for 6 months in total 4 weeks, then 4 weeks again straight away another 4 weeks, then slapped me with 3 month sanction all straight after each other.

All because i had to return to Glasgow to attend court and be a witness against a polish man who raped/gang raped and abused me. He got 16 years in prison after a 2 week long trial( was over the papers and everything), and in those two weeks trial i missed 1 job center signing and 2 work program appointments due to the trial, (that they were fully aware of, even had court letters and numbers to speak to legal representatives, prosecutor fiscal everybody but the judge himself) so they saw fit to sanction me 4 times for 6 months in total,. My sanctions only just finished in October last year, yet even now, i only receive £25 per week as i am currently having over £100 taken from every payment because i am now paying back rent and council tax arrears that happened due to my unfair sanctions. £25 a week, thats less than i was getting on hardship allowance on sanction, and im still expected to starve and use this money to find work, ooh and did i mention i am a single parent with 3 kids, whos on the verge of doing something illegal just to put food in our mouths.... The state of my counrty brings me to tears, the state it has left my family in has me on the brink of doing something really desperate and probably illegal.....

[Jmulv]

unfortunately mark there is one thing you have to learn whilst being on benefits.

 

Do everything they tell you. It is a joke yes but unfortunately getting angry won't help you. For future reference just do anything they say no matter how dumb. It's not too hard and you just completely avoid sanctions. Apply for enough jobs per week, turn up on time, keep your head down and you'll be ok. Hopefully you can claim hardship and I would also try to appeal the sanction if it goes ahead. Send evidence of all the jobs you have applied for and say you didn't apply for 1 job that was too far away and you are doing everything you can to look for work. Just apply for any jobs they give you probably won't get them anyway and it keeps them quiet.

 

Good luck.

[Shoelover]

I think your right mikey it wont cease but think it will be more difficult to access...but time will tell...however, I am more concerned with the influence of big private companies with their hands in this particular pie..and can envisage the day when public servants will no longer be needed to do the role you are doing at the moment...and I can honestly see companies like w2w being given the responsibility to decide and pay who or who is not eligible....they are already attempting to push the public sector to the limit...work longer, harder, for less..pay more for your pension for longer...look at the possible savings they could achieve if they did this...minimum wage...easy system to administrate.....one universal credit...dont need public servants now to do this job.....

You are so right

[biggeorge]

Sorry to hear about your sanction Mark I know how nasty these things are after been on the receiving end so many times myself.

 

Get all your evidence together for the DM (Decision Maker) and if that is refused you can go to an independent appeal and put your case forward in person.

As already said on here, do everything they ask and give them no reason to sanction.

 

I just signed on, on Wednesday and was going to get a sanction if I had not signed up to the UJM, Created a profile and uploaded a CV, Even though

I have just gone through 5 months on the NEA getting my business plan signed off to come across another problem with the NEA loan providers not

wanting to touch me with a barge pole with very bad credit so back to JSA.

Even though I had a 16 page letter of reasons why I could not join UJM, Fake jobs, Scams etc.. I knew I would be sanctioned as I failed a direction so did

what I was told and safely joined the UJM site with a redacted CV and limited information.

 

Same day a guy before me almost took out my adviser as she sanctioned him and security had to be called to get him to leave.

I can see some JCP advisers getting really really hurt sometime soon, People would be better of in jail than living with no money.

 

The whole system is starting to fall apart, No matter if you have paid into the system for the past 20 or 30 years now that means nothing.

 

Wish you luck in your appeal

 

George