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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ?  Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account 4546384809766042. The defendant faild to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. The dbt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ?  Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment?  May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
    • what device are you using? copy all the questions then come here to this thread and paste them. then answer each question click on red give answers here. when done  hit submit reply bottom right.  
    • No because it's locked. You need to copy the relevant part of the questionnaire and paste it into this thread. That way you can overwrite. HB
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My companies Data Protection Officer said to me a while back, 'onthebrink, we don't live in a world where privacy means anything anymore, and where our data has a monetary value. Big business pay big bucks for data.'

 

Before submitting ANY data about yourself look and the T&Cs of the website, you may find it asks if you want to receive marketing info but won't detail what they do with your data, just that they will 'use it'. ALWAYS look for a 'privacy' policy and if its missing walk away.

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ALWAYS look for a 'privacy' policy and if its missing walk away.

 

great advice.

 

someone give onthebrink a medal!

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

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My companies Data Protection Officer said to me a while back, 'onthebrink, we don't live in a world where privacy means anything anymore, and where our data has a monetary value. Big business pay big bucks for data.'

 

They don't even need to pay for it, neither - if it isn't the Banks ditching our personal data in the dumpsters out back, it's the government losing data in the post.

 

The simple answer to avoid identity theft, these days, is to not have an identity. The question is, how far are you willing to go down the rabbit hole to protect (and therefore expose) yourself?

 

Conspiracy theories abound... and rightly so, me thinks...

 

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Car if we was to go down a rabbit hole and have no identy who would the DCAs argue with?

 

I total agree about the identy thing. I was ferious when HMRC lost the data dics. Last i knew is they were searching rubbish dumps for them that bis when they were saying they had more that likely been left in the office of the courier company/ left with a receptionist at the location they were ment to go to.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

Essex girl in pc world looking 4 curtains 4 her pc,the assistant says u dont need curtains 4 a computer!!Essex girl says,''HELLOOO!! i,ve got WINDOWS!!'.

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cus4loans.co.uk

 

their not even subtle:

 

 

'Cus4Loans.co.uk is a website operated by The Slice Ltd. The Slice Ltd is licensed under the Data Protection Acts. Registered Company Number: 02860905 Registered Office : 25 Ormside Way, Redhill, Surrey. RH1 2LW. Data Protection Number: Z8414369

The Slice is a marketing and IT systems organisation and does not offer any financial advice. Think carefully before taking out a loan.'

 

Give it a try, you'll be lucky to get a response ;)

 

That's what they said about Cabot - Didn't kinda end up that way :D :D

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:-D

 

Sorry to answer PMs here, but if you asked then I'm sure someone else needs to know.

 

Why do DCAs pass my debt on?

 

Basically because they have run the debt cycle and the chance of recovery is nil. As I said in an earlier post, they are working on % of debtors and turnover of accounts. If the supervisor has determined they won't get paid it will be passed on.

 

 

If I move address can the OC/DCA find me?

Not if you move to the moon. :-D . At some point in the future your going to go looking for debt again (sorry credit :wink: ), and they link you with two key pieces of information - you date of birth and you place of birth (the chances of two joe bloggs born in Hackney on the 25 Feb 1905 is rare!), your address is only the first port of call.

 

DCAs have a number of routes to find you -

 

Spoof websites offering credit (you get rejected but they have the info)

Mobile phone contracts

HP agreements

Mortgage applications.

On-line marketing surveys

Electoral register

 

Do you know the name of any of the other 'spoof' websites purporting to be brokers

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Or Miss M Mouse.

 

I can see the letter from them.

 

Dear Mr G Dog.

 

ref XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

I am writing about the loan taken out under the above number.

 

GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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LOL well Mr Brown is likely to need a loan as l will be advising companys that if they want there money then they should contact Alistar Darling as he is the chancellor.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

Essex girl in pc world looking 4 curtains 4 her pc,the assistant says u dont need curtains 4 a computer!!Essex girl says,''HELLOOO!! i,ve got WINDOWS!!'.

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:-D

 

Sorry to answer PMs here, but if you asked then I'm sure someone else needs to know.

 

Why do DCAs pass my debt on?

 

Basically because they have run the debt cycle and the chance of recovery is nil. As I said in an earlier post, they are working on % of debtors and turnover of accounts. If the supervisor has determined they won't get paid it will be passed on.

 

 

If I move address can the OC/DCA find me?

Not if you move to the moon. :-D . At some point in the future your going to go looking for debt again (sorry credit :wink: ), and they link you with two key pieces of information - you date of birth and you place of birth (the chances of two joe bloggs born in Hackney on the 25 Feb 1905 is rare!), your address is only the first port of call.

 

DCAs have a number of routes to find you -

 

Spoof websites offering credit (you get rejected but they have the info)

Mobile phone contracts

HP agreements

Mortgage applications.

On-line marketing surveys

Electoral register

 

LOL well Mr Brown is likely to need a loan as l will be advising companys that if they want there money then they should contact Alistar Darling as he is the chancellor.

 

& as we have seen he likes the money lenders doing all he can to support them........at our expense

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I've just joined "The Cabot Fan Club".... they introduced themselves as the new "owners" of an unenforceable account at the week-end. Deep joy... :rolleyes:

 

PriorityOne! We haven't caught up in ages! It wasn't a Goldfish card was it? If it was, then join the club!:rolleyes:

 

Regards,

 

Corn x:)

 

PS : The Cabot Fan Club are F.A.B. I don't mean the Cabot that prefer the hung, drawn & quartered option!

CLICK ON THE SCALES IF YOU THINK I HAVE HELPED!

 

I AM NOT SCARED ANYMORE!:rolleyes:

 

MBNA - To quote "The Carpenters", We've Only Just Begun..................;):D

HSBC - Settled.

Capital One - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Goldfish - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Tesco - SAR issued.

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Congratulation to OTB for a truly amazing and useful thread. I hope you have good cover!

 

I have a couple of questions though :

 

How do you deal with an DCA and their solicitors when you have spent 16 months trying to communicate with them and they have never answered a single, solitary letter and have ignored your SAR and your CCA requests? I am talking around 26 letters in fact, which have all been received and signed for.

 

How do you deal with a DCA who has filed a claim, despite all the above) at county court (a claim that will be fast-tracked due to the size) despite the OC admitting that they converted documents unconnected to the "debtor" in an attempt to concoct an enforceable agreement? Oh and put all the wrong information on it, at that!

 

I am more surprised that the Solicitor for the DCA is extremely well known and "high end" yet they can't respond to letters? Why is that? Further, why they have advised their "client" to litigate is beyond me. Will they withdraw after my defence is submitted? What do you think OTB???

 

I have, thankfully, been able to afford a Barrister (on a time spent and reduced fee basis) to represent me in Court. I ought to say that the reason for this is that in my experience, the Judge does not appreciate a Litigant in Person, however, their tune is very much changed when a Barrister comes into play. That is just from being an observer in Court. I wouldn't put myself through it after that! Sorry that is slightly off topic but was touched on earlier in the thread.

 

Regards,

 

 

Corn x:)

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I AM NOT SCARED ANYMORE!:rolleyes:

 

MBNA - To quote "The Carpenters", We've Only Just Begun..................;):D

HSBC - Settled.

Capital One - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Goldfish - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

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Hi all,

 

Just got in from work so no time to respond to questions but I will tomorrow.

 

I do have good cover :-D although I did get a PM from someone I worked with but decided it best not to respond!!!!! He knows who he is ;).

 

Remember....it's good to talk. :-)

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Help! on behalf of a friend

 

Mary ran up debts in 1997 and then immediately left the address with no forwarding address. Mary makes a new start and opens several credit accounts from 2003 onwards at a different address with no connection to the previous address.

 

Mary runs all accounts good, no problems, no ccj etc. Mary gets a letter from DCA recently, stating acting for OC as to whereabouts of debtor. Mary panics and puts letter in the bin. Mary checks Equifax and discovers a search by DCA of reason: outstanding debt. Everything else clean.

 

We do not know if a CCJ or Default Notice was received since Mary left address years ago. Is this statute barred?

 

  • Mary is now worried that old debts will now find her, is he on the radar?
  • How did they trace her after so long?
  • What should she do when the next letter comes through the letterbox?
  • Will her current Credit Cards and Bank accounts now be withdrawn?
  • Mary is vulnerable with terminal disease.

Please help!

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Hi all,

 

Just got in from work so no time to respond to questions but I will tomorrow.

 

I do have good cover :-D although I did get a PM from someone I worked with but decided it best not to respond!!!!! He knows who he is ;).

 

Remember....it's good to talk. :-)

 

Ah! But did he do it on purpose or is he undercover, or is he a shameful debtor like the rest of us????!!!:rolleyes::)

 

I look forward to your response OTB!

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Corn x:)

CLICK ON THE SCALES IF YOU THINK I HAVE HELPED!

 

I AM NOT SCARED ANYMORE!:rolleyes:

 

MBNA - To quote "The Carpenters", We've Only Just Begun..................;):D

HSBC - Settled.

Capital One - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Goldfish - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Tesco - SAR issued.

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Help! on behalf of a friend

 

Mary ran up debts in 1997 and then immediately left the address with no forwarding address. Mary makes a new start and opens several credit accounts from 2003 onwards at a different address with no connection to the previous address.

 

Mary runs all accounts good, no problems, no ccj etc. Mary gets a letter from DCA recently, stating acting for OC as to whereabouts of debtor. Mary panics and puts letter in the bin. Mary checks Equifax and discovers a search by DCA of reason: outstanding debt. Everything else clean.

 

We do not know if a CCJ or Default Notice was received since Mary left address years ago. Is this statute barred?

 

  • Mary is now worried that old debts will now find her, is he on the radar?
  • How did they trace her after so long?
  • What should she do when the next letter comes through the letterbox?
  • Will her current Credit Cards and Bank accounts now be withdrawn?
  • Mary is vulnerable with terminal disease.

Please help!

 

Janesy, I would suggest that you start a thread on this in the General Debt Forum. I would imagine that most of the debts are now statute barred, but it doesn't stop them from searching. I would suggest not responding to any searching letters, although others may disagree.

 

I doubt that current facilities would be withdrawn, especially if they have been properly run. I suggest same regarding her bank account.

 

I really do think that you ought to start a separate thread on this and provide some further information. I hope this helps.

 

Regards,

 

Corn x:)

CLICK ON THE SCALES IF YOU THINK I HAVE HELPED!

 

I AM NOT SCARED ANYMORE!:rolleyes:

 

MBNA - To quote "The Carpenters", We've Only Just Begun..................;):D

HSBC - Settled.

Capital One - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Goldfish - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Tesco - SAR issued.

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Oh god, I'm so sorry...

 

NO NO! Don't apologise! I didn't mean to scare you!!:eek:

 

I just thought that as this thread was about the workings of debt collection agencies, it might be better, under the circumstances, for you to have a whole thread to yourself regarding Mary's issues! New threads tend to get a lot of attention!

 

If you need any help with that, then please do let me know!

 

A hug for scaring you.....:-)

 

Regards,

 

Corn x:)

CLICK ON THE SCALES IF YOU THINK I HAVE HELPED!

 

I AM NOT SCARED ANYMORE!:rolleyes:

 

MBNA - To quote "The Carpenters", We've Only Just Begun..................;):D

HSBC - Settled.

Capital One - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Goldfish - S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) issued.

Tesco - SAR issued.

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Janesy, I would suggest that you start a thread on this in the General Debt Forum. I would imagine that most of the debts are now statute barred, but it doesn't stop them from searching. I would suggest not responding to any searching letters, although others may disagree.

 

I doubt that current facilities would be withdrawn, especially if they have been properly run. I suggest same regarding her bank account.

 

I really do think that you ought to start a separate thread on this and provide some further information. I hope this helps.

 

Regards,

 

Corn x:)

 

A good call Corn :-)

 

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