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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Had a hearing date for 10th September. I applied to the court last week to refuse a stay if asked for. I have had no reply. My court bundle has to be in by 24th August, I just rang the court The girl who spoke to me said that every case in the country was being stayed, I said that in many courts the cases were still being heard. She said that they had been instructed by the senior judge of Devon and Cornwall to stay every case, so it seems that Bodmin, Truro, Plymouth Exeter Torbay and Barnstaple are not hearing cases.

She acknowledged that my application had been received by the judge but but did not know whether he had made a decision.

 

Problem now is do I waste time and money getting the court bundle in by 24th or not, if I dont will I be penalised for not getting in on time.

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ello this is my first post so please be easy with me question......

i have claimed my charges back from the Halifax some time ago then started claiming back for my otherhalf. now the halifax took some time in returning the information (56 days) and we couldn't total the full 6 years only taking to court for 2 of the 6 years which we got as the normal "good will" we now got the information and want to claim back for the last 3 years left. now i know the bank can apply for a stay what i want to know is Leeds county court aplying the stays or not and if they do how do i appeal it?

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Just to add Greenock Sheriff Court is business as usual. The lady who i spoke to today was positivley encouraging me to file. The banks have not defended in this court yet. It would be a change to court life if once in a while it wasn't a murderer, drug dealer or thief that took up their time in this wild west town...:rolleyes:

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Evesham County Court - my hearing went ahead as normal on 13th Aug, bank had applied for a stay but then we settled the day before, judge said he would have considered the stay at the hearing but was glad I turned up all the same to let him know what was going on. I know there were 3 other bank cases on the same day.

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Interesting development, I phoned Maidstone Combined County Court as I had not received any confirmation of the blanket stays which were apparently being put into place. The court clerk advised that this was the original plan (to make blanket stays) but "the situation is currently being reviewed as it seems that the District Judge is having second thoughts "

 

I also received the Halifax's response this morning (sent from Optima)

 

Great news

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Milton Keynes have decided to Stay all cases but you can appeal if you have a spare £65 - apparently you won't win though!! or if you'd prefer to waste a futher £35 you can ask to be transfered to another court - but chances are you won't win that either! so well done HSBC thats me screwed!!!!:shock:

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Stafford Court stayed all cases today. The DDJ liked the " Objection for a stay" letter but didn't feel that it was a strong enough arguement. Did make the lawyer twitch a bit though.

 

oh well, onwards and upwards

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I have received notification today from Bow County Court that they have stayed our claim

HFC Bank - First letter claiming £196/LBA sent/£75 offered/rejected/Claim filed

HFC Bank Take 2 - Statements received

A & L - Prelim sent/LBA sent

Barclays (for my Dad) - Awaiting statements/LBA for S.A.R. sent/Statements received/Prelim sent/LBA sent

A & L (for my Son) - Awaiting statements/Statements arrived Prelim letter sent/£280 offered and rejected

Abbey (for my Sister) - ***Won***

Barclays PPI claim

Studio - ***Won***

HSBC - (for my brother-in-law) ***Won*** 8-)

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Huddersfield county Court today stayed claim for credit card charges with Barclaycard till feb 2008

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List updated

 

 

 

For what reason, was it to allow settlement or due to the OFT announcement, if it is the latter then you need to apply to have it set aside as the OFT case is not about credit card claims

 

Barclaycard have got a stay on my claim, due to the OFT action.

 

Ive been told to write to court if i do not agree with it.

[COLOR=#2e8b57][B][SIZE=1][U]Claimed & won so far[/U]:-[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2e8b57][SIZE=1][COLOR=seagreen][U]Banks[/U]:- NatWest Personal £1000, Natwest Business £2000, Lloyds TSB Personal £1500, [U]Mortgages[/U]:-Central Capital (PPI) £500, Natwest MEAF £140 [/COLOR][COLOR=#2e8b57][U]Credit cards[/U]:- HSBC Gold card £365, Capital One £599.55 Barclaycard £1070 ( i only aske for £700) , Lloyds £500 [U]Catalogues[/U]:- Littlewoods Direct Flex Account £60 :D [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2e8b57][SIZE=1][B][U]For Friends[/U][/B]:- Natwest £1500, £1800 & £500, Cap One £600, Barclaycard £400, Solutions £100, Aqua, £105.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2e8b57][B][U][SIZE=1][COLOR=seagreen]Pending:-[/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/B] [COLOR=seagreen][SIZE=1]Barclays Bank Personal (On hold - Thanks a lot OFT) :mad:.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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If those courts Staying claims en mass should find that everyone is applying to have it set aside :evil: then their attempts to frustrate consumers & reduce the burden on their courts will be to no avail:-D & after a while they may decide it's just as cost effective to agree to hear cases

 

Moral of the story - no matter what apply for a set-aside of the Stay;) thereby maintaining the pressure

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A friend whom I am helping with his charges has received notice from Worcester County Court today.

 

The court is staying his case awaiting the outcome of the test case (no definition - poor form) [Edit: this is the court staying case with no application from either party].

 

We'd had notice from the bank they were going to apply for a stay. We checked with the court Friday and Monday and were assured the case wasn't being stayed, the court had received nothing from the bank and they would only be able to apply (due to the short timescale) at the hearing. The notice is dated Monday. Needless to he's miffed - he'd had a hearing due tomorrow, and we'd both booked time off for it (he's not the most eloquent and clear when putting his point across).

 

If anyone else has had the same notice would be good to know - it was District Judge Parry (just wondering in case he'd reviewed a bulk of cases)

 

We're going to appeal and will keep you posted. We'll also include the proposal for directions to see if it helps.

 

I presume this is the same for the rest of Worcester. Sad news but the fight's on.

 

Mal

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My case vs HSBC was stayed in Nottingham County Court today. Before I saw the Judge, I overheard the Usher telling someone that all cases are being stayed. The Judge told me that they were seeing both parties on a case by case basis to tell them personally that the case was being stayed. He did not care that HSBC had not folllowed directions by not sending me their court bundle. He also gave me a ready prepared Q & A sheet about the OFT announcement and a copy of the agreement that the OFt and the banks had made. What surprised me was that he gave a veiled warning about websites that would advise me to get the stay lifted, and that they didn't know what they were talking about. Needless to say, HSBC solicitor went away looking very smug.

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Crystaltipps. A pointless waste of everyone's time conducting hearings when cases were going to be stayed anyway. Probably for judges benefit - so he'd feel he was providing some sort of service.

 

Also pointless giving out info about the OFT case - did he think you didn't know about it?

 

May not be worth you applying to have the stay lifted unless you can be sure a different judge will deal with it. On the other hand, JonCris may have a point:

 

If those courts Staying claims en mass should find that everyone is applying to have it set aside then their attempts to frustrate consumers & reduce the burden on their courts will be to no avail & after a while they may decide it's just as cost effective to agree to hear cases

 

Moral of the story - no matter what apply for a set-aside of the Stay thereby maintaining the pressure

:rolleyes:
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Leicester county court when i phoned them 2 days ago it was buisness as usual if you have a date your case is going ahead. A&L did not comply with DJ's instructions so applied for judgement by default, when I rang to get an update I was told that it will be approx 3 weeks before I hear anything they are that far behind in their work.

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Worcestershire County Court

 

Unfortunately, despite telling me right up to yesterday that the hearing was going ahead, I have received a letter from the court TODAY, the actual day of the hearing saying they have upheld the bank's request for the stay. Barclays only requested the stay yesterday, by FAX!! A legal rep from Barclays rang me yesterday to tell me they were doing this.

 

I'm GUTTED

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