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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
    • The date was 3 June. Get on MCOL now. The legal principle is that, even if you defence is late, if the other party hasn't requested judgement, then your defence takes priority and is accepted. You might be in time. When I say now I mean now.  Recently we had someone who was nine days' late and this was pointed out to them at 5:30pm.  They faffed around till 11pm.  When they went on MCOl they saw that judgement had been entered at 7pm. Every minute is vital. File the below standard defence if you still can - 1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle]. 2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim.    4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer.  6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.
    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
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I've got one of these from Westcot, which basically triples the alleged debt, have sent it to Trading Standards as well as the OFT. The debt doesn't even exist as the balance on the account is 0.00 and I have proof of that, and proof that their clients have told them four times now that I don't owe them any money.

 

I thought one of the things was they were not to send out documents which may be taken or implied to be part of the process of taking you to court!

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I've got one of these from Westcot, which basically triples the alleged debt, have sent it to Trading Standards as well as the OFT. The debt doesn't even exist as the balance on the account is 0.00 and I have proof of that, and proof that their clients have told them four times now that I don't owe them any money.

 

I thought one of the things was they were not to send out documents which may be taken or implied to be part of the process of taking you to court!

Write to Westcrap and request details of their complaints procedure. Comply with this and if you are not satisfied then the FOS will investigate FAQs - consumer credit complaints

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Another small update!

 

Got the complaints procedure, they've obviously had to send for it given how long it's taken to send it and the fact that it's the London Scottish Bank complaints procedure... If you want to read these it may be a good idea to download them and rotate them in Windows picture viewer.

 

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Just a quick update, i've drafted a 2 page letter under their complaints procedure which is going by Special Delivery tommorow.

 

Though for the moment, i'm not going to scan the letter, it's basically a breakdown of what has happened over the time this has been going on and what action I require from them to prevent me taking this further and further.

 

I'll scan up the letter when I get a resonse and scan that up at the same time.

 

Dave.

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Just a quick note, because I didn't notice it before, the complaints address is...

 

Customer Care Manager,

Risk & Compliance Department,

London Scottish House,

Mount Street,

Manchester,

M2 3LS.

 

Maybe someone who can string more than 2 sentences together will reply??! :rolleyes:

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Just a quick note, because I didn't notice it before, the complaints address is...

 

Customer Care Manager,

Risk & Compliance Department,

London Scottish House,

Mount Street,

Manchester,

M2 3LS.

 

Well... Had a call from Salford Trading Standards this morning and to cut a long chat short(er) the lady who called me said firstly that they hadn't come across RW&C before to which I said this surprised me hugely, she corrected me then because she said that just on basic research because I hadn't provided their address (I stated in the letter, "I'm sure you already know their address!") that whilst their address does exist the postcode they are using is nothing more than a postal drop that is redirected to (wait for it now!) Mount Street in Manchester!!!

 

So the upshot of it is that Salford Trading Standards are now investigating their mis-use of the postal service but have had to hand over my main complaint to Manchester Trading Standards whom she advised me (obviously spoken to a colleague/s) are more than aware of said company Robinson, Way & Co!!

 

So there's going to be 3 lots of TS's sending them letters!! :lol:

 

Going back to my Lowell/Cap1 thread for a mo, Tameside Trading Standards were more than happy to tackle Lowell Financial in Leeds so i'm thinking that i'll be getting them involved as well over the weekend..

 

Now, being one who likes his fun.....:D

One of my colleagues delivers on Salford Quays on a Thursday so I gave him a quick ring this morning and asked him if he wouldn't mind whipping over to Carolina Way and finding LSH and to just go in and ask if xYz company were based at this office as he'ld just been asked to deliver at LSH with no address.... Anyway, he told me when he got there that it was like a completely sealed estate within the estate (Salford Quays) and the security guards wouldn't even talk to him, let alone let him in!! See (from Google Images) photo below!

 

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So what have we got to hide RW&C ??

 

This has certainly made me even more determined now! You know what they say..?

 

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That's the one! ;)

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Just out of interest... Are there any Manchester/North West "meets" planned for this summer?

What about a mass picket of Parsite Central. Digital cameras to be brought. They must be scared with all that security. W (things that hold ships in the water)

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Keeping a close eye on this Dave! I tried to get a complaints procedure out of a company other than RW&C last night, called like you did - was very hard I tell you!

They are obliged legally to have a complaints procedure. If they dont you can report thrm to the FOS

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Just out of interest... Are there any Manchester/North West "meets" planned for this summer?

 

Apologies for going off topic..

 

There was talk of a meet being discussed over in the Bear Garden, but still can't get into it. From memory, members discussing included Ladybird, InKogneeTo...

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Quick update, i've had yet another begging letter in a blue stripey envelope, this time a gentle reminder that being determined to settle the account they appreciate my co-operation! :eek:

 

Ohh and could I please make sure that I send them £9 by Friday! :lol:

 

I'll scan & put it up on Friday when i've a little more time.

 

They've also signed for my 2 page pre-FOS complaint today too, I know it'll just go straight in the bin so I stamped the letter throughout with complaints procedue notices! I'll scan & put that up on Friday too.

 

As for the Manchester meet, it doesn't look all that well supported yet which is a shame as I could hop on a bus straight to Victoria and leave the car at home... Never mind..

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Keeping a close eye on this Dave! I tried to get a complaints procedure out of a company other than RW&C last night, called like you did - was very hard I tell you!

 

I just call them for the fun of it these days, they must have a marker on my account as they don't rise to the bait any more! upset.gifHow things have changed.....

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Well, just a little update, Salford have passed the TS's complaint to Manchester finally. Got the initial letter this morning so will copy and bundle everything up on Saturday for them.. Might just follow through with sending it to Tameside as well now I know they'll deal direct!

 

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They've had my complaint under their complaints procedure for a week as well now and not even acknowledged it which is against their own procedure!

 

Ohh it's all adding up!! yipee.gif

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I've also had that letter today, sent back my client form plus my evidence. They also called me today too which I actually had before the post came, so I outlined everything on the phone and I hope I have enough to back it up.

 

Good Luck Dave!

All my knowledge has been gained from personal experience and the sharing of advice from fellow members.

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