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    • The property was our family home.  A fixed low rate btl/ development loan was given (last century!). It was derelict. Did it up/ was rented out for a while.  Then moved in/out over the years (mostly around school)  It was a mix of rental and family home. The ad-hoc rents covered the loan amply.  Nowadays  banks don't allow such a mix.  (I have written this before.) Problems started when the lease was extended and needed to re-mortgage to cover the expense.  Wanted another btl.  Got a tenant in situ. Was located elsewhere (work). A broker found a btl lender, they reneged.  Broker didn't find another btl loan.  The tenant was paying enough to cover the proposed annual btl mortgage in 4 months. The broker gave up trying to find another.  I ended up on a bridge and this disastrous path.  (I have raised previous issues about the broker) Not sure what you mean by 'split'.  The property was always leasehold with a separate freeholder  The freeholder eventually sold the fh to another entity by private agreement (the trust) but it's always been separate.  That's quite normal.  One can't merge titles - unless lease runs out/ is forfeited and new one is not created/ granted. The bridge lender had a special condition in loan offer - their own lawyer had to check title first.  Check that lease wasn't onerous and there was nothing that would affect good saleability.  The lawyer (that got sacked for dishonesty) signed off the loan on the basis the lease and title was good and clean.  The same law firm then tried to complain the lease clauses were onerous and the lease too short, even though the loan was to cover a 90y lease extension!! 
    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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Hello,

 

I recently entered into a payment plan with overdales, after reading a few posts on here I now realise it is the wrong thing to do! I have made 1 payment and have a recurring payment plan set up with them. 

 

Originally the debts were with Lowell and then passed onto overdales for further action. 

I owe a total of £4000 across 3 debts 

I have looked at my credit file and have noted that they are recoreded with lowell and due to hit 6 years in April 2024, May 2024 & Dec 2025. It is my understanding that after the 6 years the accounts will move to closed. 

If I decide to not pay overdales can they still chase me for these debts? 

Can they re-register them on my credit file

What steps can I take? I am finally seeing my old defaults reach the 6 year mark and I don't want new ones popping up. 

 

Any and all help is appreciated. 

Thank you 

Jb 

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If youve made a payment and its under 6 years, then you cant plead Statute Barred anymore if under 6 years, 

Essentially restarts the clock. 

 

@dx100uk is pretty good with this stuff. Plus if you are in England / Wales. Accounts are not closed after 6 years, they just disappear from your Credit File.

The debt isnt ever extinguished etc unless the company chasing you write it off in full.

 

We could do with some help from you.

 

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  • fkofilee changed the title to Lowells / Overdales - Payment Plan / Paid Money - Have I Made A Mistake?

overdales are lowells, same group, but are solicitors, but of course they'll act as a dca too and accept cash cow payments.

stop paying.

sadly you've reset the SB date now unless they were already SB'd and you've got your dates wrong.

a debt is removed from your file on the defaulted dates 6th b'day regardless to if paid or not or paying or not. never to return.

what are the debts and what was the date of your last use or payment.

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you for the speedy reply! 

1 - 118 loan I can't recall the last date of use/payment but the default date is set at 25/04/18

2- Vodafone, default date 01/12/19 

3- Capital 1 default 13/05/18 

 

I have logged into my bank and cancelled the payments until I know the best action to take. 

I understand I was a huge idiot to set up payment plans and since reading the posts on here I feel silly for not asking for help sooner. 

Thanks 

Jb

 

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Don't pay them another penny whatever you do, providing that they have your correct address (you have sent it to them in writing) there really is very little they can do aside from send a Claimform, that will be very easy to bat away, because Lowell never have any correct documentation, especially for debts as old as yours.

Those defaults will likely be dropping off your credit file also, so there is even less to worry about.

We could do with some help from you.

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Okay thank you, they do have the correct address as they have sent letters regarding the debts so I should receive any and all communication from them. 

If/when I get a claim form do I just come back on here for advice ? 

Thank you :)

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Not good enough sadly, if you have moved since you took the loan out they can still send a Claim Form to your old address, which they will win by default, because you didn't receive the documents necessary to defend it.

If that's the case then you need to just write a simple letter stating your new  address with the account number they have given you and your name. This will protect you from backdoor CCJ 's, which are actually very much Lowell's MO.

Oh and definitely come back to this thread if you receive a claimform

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well the mobile debt is unenforceable anyway they always are . forget it, there never was a debt in the 1st place.

typically PDL defaults are always reg'd late on credit files so i'd check your filefor last payment dates should be listed there.

as for 118118, did you have lots of defaults and outstanding credit when they loaned to you?

get those letters off to prevent backdoor ccj 's...that's a must.

never moved without telling your debt owners!

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Happy Monday

I have today received a "Letter of Claim - 30 days to prevent legal action" 

Dated 17 April 2024  I am already 5 days into the 30 days. 

What are my next steps?

I know i cannot just ignore the letter as I have read that they will pursue for a CCJ which I am trying to avoid.

As said above, I should not enter into a repayment plan with them  am unsure as to what to do now. 

I think there was some confusion above, I have never moved.

I have been at the same address for many many years, I have grown roots along with the plants. 

I cannot recall if I had defaults /loans when I got the 118 loan

. This is something I will look into. 

Thank you :)

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hit letter of claim

follow post 2

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you, I have drafted my letters and started to complete the reply form, printed from this site and not using the one they provided. 

 

2 questions, on the forum link it says to tick box D & I, the reason for box D will be given on my thread, what would my answer be to "I dispute the debt"? 

Do I send anything for the Vodafone debt they have included? 

I've only done 118 loan s. 77 & capital one credit cards so. 78 

 

Thank you :)

 

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there isn't one yet use the default mentioned already there.

that covers all 3 debts as i assume the PAPLOC is for all 3 debts?

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope

does their PAPLOC state all 3 debts?

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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one reply only 

follow post 2 of letter of claim <<clickme link.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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