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Good evening,

I know you may have heard a story like mine before but I'm still reeling.

 

I didn't know I had a ccj against me

,( we had building work done and there were lots of problems with the builder)

 

imagine my shock a week last Saturday when a law enforcement officer called at my address with a writ and gave me 7 days to pay the whole lot of money £14k.

 

We had a week of absolute hell as we were threatened 'the team' were going to take our vehicle and our furniture.

 

The threats were awful but luckily we managed to come to an agreement.

 

My brain is now starting to function normally and I was wondering would I have known if I had a ccj?

 

Did it go to county court first or High Court due to the amount owing?

 

How do I find out where it was on ?

 

It's a mystery to me as I didn't have a clue.

 

I will say that the pressure they put on you is unbearable and I'm still in pieces now .

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so probably a default judgement where everything was sent to an old address?

have you moved of recent?

 

 

do you have the CCJ number?

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go check your credit file

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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usually because they don't have any real powers to do any of what they claim.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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when someone gets a civil CCJ

all they do is pay an extra £60 for the involvement of HCEO's

 

 

if its not a business to business debt

they really don't have any rights of forced entry etc etc at all.

its all hot air.

 

 

go get your credit file

they are all free

use noddle or clearscore now

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Take a read of the following edna it will explain the process the claimant has to go through to get the Warrant of Control...as advised the paper work usually list the judgement details the court and the claim number.

 

https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/ex322-eng.pdf

 

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We had a week of absolute hell as we were threatened 'the team' were going to take our vehicle and our furniture.

 

The threats were awful but luckily we managed to come to an agreement.

 

When you reached an 'agreement' (which I am assuming is a payment arrangement)you should have been provided with some documentation by the enforcement company. What documents were given to you?

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When the enforcement officer called he gave us a piece of paper with my husbands name and the word ccj and the company on the top.

There was no case number .

 

 

It said we had 7 days to either find the money or get in touch as if we couldn't come to an arrangement they could take the vehicle and take a writ of control of our belongings.

 

The amount owed has jumped up £6,000 too.

 

The e mail we had off the law enforcement company just accepts our payment offer .

There is no case number anywhere .

The only number on there is a reference number.

 

We put a payment plan into operation as soon as we could as we were so frightened we slept out all weekend.

 

 

There is something definitely not right about this but having so little knowledge trying to submerge myself into getting to grips with this mess and making sense of the whole shambled state of affairs.

 

Thank you all for your advice because believe me at this point in time it's about the only thing that is getting me through this nightmare.

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Are you sure these enforcement officers were hceo and had a recorded ccj against you to enforce?

The fact that you never received any letters from the court makes me think that maybe (and just maybe) these guys were debt collectors (completely powerless apart from begging and lying) using a carefully drafted letter with the word ccj in it.

Your credit file will show if you really have a ccj against you and if so then you'll have to start the process of set aside based on the fact that you never received any correspondence.

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Please do check the credit file but surely to goodness you should be speaking with the enforcement company to ask the following information:

 

When was this CCJ awarded against you?

 

How much was the judgment for?

 

What date was judgment entered?

 

Which court ?

 

In relation to the enforcement agent fees, you should be asking for an exact breakdown of the fees charged and the date that the charge had been applied to your account.

 

PS: I suspect that you have been charged the Compliance fee of £75 together with a Stage One, Stage Two and a Sale Stage fee. It is best to wait to see what the enforcement company provide.

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When the enforcement officer called he gave us a piece of paper with my husbands name and the word ccj and the company on the top.

There was no case number . It said we had 7 days to either find the money or get in touch as if we couldn't come to an arrangement they could take the vehicle and take a writ of control of our belongings.

The amount owed has jumped up £6,000 too.

The e mail we had off the law enforcement company just accepts our payment offer . There is no case number anywhere .

The only number on there is a reference number.

 

I certainly hope this is not someone else who thinks it is permissible to hand over the Notice of Enforcement whilst making a first visit.

 

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The first time that he turned up was a week last Saturday at 7.15pm and handed over the enforcement.

 

The phone calls then started .

 

I can honestly say I have never been so scared.

 

Checking credit score later .

 

The bill has jumped up by £6000 but scared to query it as he wouldn't take any offers at first and kept saying I'll have your vehicle, take things from your house and I'll keep coming back.

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phone your local court, askthem for teh claim number and when it was issued and when the judgement was granted. If the claim didnt arrive at your address and nor did any other paperwork then I would be very worried as to where it has gone if the address on the form is correct. Have you considered to possiblity that you hubby received the paperwork and hid it from you? It happens more often than any other reason for non-delivery of numerous letters

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You can check quite quickly by looking on .......

 

http://www.trustonline.org.uk/

 

There is a small fee.

 

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I have grilled my husband . We have not had anything . He's not signed anything .....this was just a bolt out of the blue

 

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and you've not named this 'law enforcement company' either

that'll help us.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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