Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • best to be sure it is a N279. not that they pull any underhand stunts of course   but we have seen it. your bal is now £0 but we'll still attend court as you'll probably not as we've said we've closed the account and we'll get a judgement by default. dx  
    • Sorry, last bit They had ticked that they wanted the application dealt with without a hearing, so is there any relevance that a date and time to attend said hearing has been sent out ?
    • I've not seen it personally but I think that's the letter Dad has had from Overdales. I'll see it tomorrow. It states balance: zero
    • Agreed as you clearly have little faith in your star runners, mind you - I have less - conditional on the welcher clause I defined being part, and that we are talking about the three defined candidates: Tice Farage and Anderson - not anyone anywhere as reform might (outside chance) get someone decent to run somewhere. If any of the three dont run - they count as a loss.   welcher clause. "If either of us loses and doesn't pay - we agree the site admin will change the welchers avatar permanently to a cows ass - specific cows ass avatar chosen by the winner - with veto by site on any too offensive - requiring another to be chosen  (or of course, DP likely allows you can delete your account and all your worthless posts to cheapskate chicken out and we'll just laugh) "
    • This is the full details, note they have made an error (1) in that paragraph 5 stated 14 days before hearing not 7. Surely a company of their size would proof read and shouldn't make basic errors like that 1) The Claimant respectfully applies for an extension of time to comply with paragraph 5 of the Order of Deputy District Judge XXX dated XX March 2024 i.e. the evidence upon which the parties intend to rely shall be filed and served not later than 7-days before the hearing. 2) The Claimant seeks a short extension of time allow them to further and properly investigate data provided to them by Royal Mail which is of importance to the proceedings and determination of the Claim. 3) The Claimant and Royal Mail have an information sharing agreement. Under the agreement, Royal Mail has provided data to the Claimant in respect of the matters forming the basis of these proceedings. The Claimant requires more time to consider this data and reconcile it against their own records. The Claimant may need to seek clarification and assurances from Royal Mail before they can be confident the data is correct and relevant to the proceedings i.e. available to be submitted as evidence. 4) The Claimant's witness is currently out of the office on annual leave and this was not relayed to DWF Law until after the event which has caused a further unfortunate delay. 5) The Court has directed parties to file and serve any evidence upon which they intend to rely not later than 14- days before the hearing i.e. by 4pm on 6 June 2024. Regrettably, the Claimant will have insufficient time to finalise their witness evidence and supporting exhibits as directed. We therefore respectfully apply to extend the time for filing/serving evidence so that the evidence upon which the parties intend to rely by filed and served not later than 7-days before the hearing i.e. by 4pm on 13 June 2024. 6) This application is a pre-emptive one for an extension of time made prior to the expiry of the deadline. In considering the application, the Court is required to exercise its broad case management powers and consider the overriding objective. 7) In circumstances where applications are made in time, the Court should be reticent to refuse reasonable applications for extensions of time which neither imperil hearing dates nor disrupt proceedings, pursuant to Hallam Estates v Baker [2014] EWCA Civ 661. 😎 It is respectfully submitted that the application is made pursuant to the provisions of CPR 3.1(2)(a) and in accordance with the overriding objective to ensure the parties are on an equal footing when presenting their cases to the Court. The requested extension of time does not put the hearing at risk and granting the Application will not be disruptive to the proceedings.   They have asked for extension Because 2) The Claimant requires additional time to consider and reconcile data received from Royal Mail which is relevant to these proceedings against their own data and records in order to submit detailed evidence in support of this Claim.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Doncaster Airport - VCS - bw legal - Ongoing since Feb 2014.


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 2876 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Ongoing since Feb 2014.

 

Flight I had gone to meet was delayed so I reversed into an unfinished spur from a roundabout.

Eventually the dreaded white van sneaked up and pointed his camera at another vehicle, then mine. I was mindful to drive off but couldn't enter the roundabout as there was a muppet with a camera van moving slowly round it.

 

This vehicle (The camera van) then drove to the opposite side and started to swivel his camera round towards us again. I drove away quickly before he got a second shot.

 

In due course a letter arrived with one nice picture of my car apparently stationary at some dashed give way markings, and an invitation to send them £60 for this small black and white picture for being " stopped on a roadway where stopping is prohibited"

 

I always thought you had to stop at give way markings when there is a vehicle coming from your right.

I didn't respond.

 

Since then : Increase of charge to £100 : Then the usual rubbish and veiled threats from Rossendales. When that was ignored nothing for over 12 months until today.

 

bw legal now £154 and an attempted frightener mention County Court etc. It does say in the small print they would have to "seek our clients instructions " to commence legal proceedings.

 

As I've ignored everything so far, should I carry on stonewalling? Or ask them to contact the driver and stop bothering me.

 

Obviously they don't know who the driver was, and I'm not going to tell them.

 

Advice Please.

Edited by honeybee13
Paras.
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello and welcome.

 

I think you've understood what the game is, pretty much. I'm surprised it's gone on this long though.

 

The forum guys should be along over the course of the day, but while you're waiting, you might like to have a read around of other BW Legal threads. I think I saw someone else the other day who had the same £154 charge, which is interesting.

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the attention honeybee. I agree about the length of time it's been ongoing. After Rossendales gave up I thought I'd "won" Like another poster The letter from VCS saying they'd passed it to bw legal AND the letter from bw legal arrived in the same envelope. Makes me suspect they may share a desk in the same office.

Link to post
Share on other sites

ok well you've read a couple of like threads

general consensus is simply let it run

but don't ignore a 'letter before action'

nor a claimform

IF they come

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sat on it solidly for over two years. It takes some doing at times as they're very good at mind games and trying to find a way to break your resolve. I'd even considered the possibility my wife had secretly paid them off without telling me , when it went quiet for so long. However it looks like round three has started.

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you ever received court papers regarding this, then you would have people fighting to help you.

 

VCS will not jeopardise this money making [problem] here or at JLA, so carry on ignoring....

Link to post
Share on other sites

I've read many threads on this subject and agree it has to be pushed to a conclusion. Just nice to know there is support out here. Thanks everyone. Next stage would be in16 days after I don't pay anything this time.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bless their little cotton socks, gotta give em credit for leaving the computer on for this length of time though!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

airports are not "relevant land" so PoFA not applicable. As they dont know who the driver was they can only make noises. They have tried court before and got spanked as airport has its own byelaws and they are not compatible with a bunch aof chancers asking for money but as it suits the airport and VCS they have a devil's compact to keep quiet about each others indiscretions.

Link to post
Share on other sites

airports are not "relevant land" so PoFA not applicable. As they dont know who the driver was they can only make noises. They have tried court before and got spanked as airport has its own byelaws and they are not compatible with a bunch aof chancers asking for money but as it suits the airport and VCS they have a devil's compact to keep quiet about each others indiscretions.

 

So basically it's a drawn out game of call my bluff.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It is all about the money.

 

 

the airport has an agreement with VCS to clodder errant motorists and share the loot.

If the airport applies the byelaws motorists may get fined a fixed penalty (about £15 if I remember correctly)

but the money goes to the courts service niot to the airport so they connive with VCS in return for a nice drink.

 

 

However, VCS cannot actually create contracts with motorists becuse the contract they rely on

(ie contractual obligation s on stopping or parking) is in fact a criminal act

and you cannot be part of a compact with criminality so they cant claim any money!

 

 

However, 99% of the people caught out dont know this so pay up.

Then VCS chases the minority and threatens all sort of things but will try and avoid court

in case someone points this out and a judge not only dismisses the claim

but decides to do them for contempt ( nice thought but it aint going to happen).

Link to post
Share on other sites

ROBIN HOOD AIRPORT TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE OF CAR PARKS

IMPORTANT NOTICE

Entry to or use of the car parks at Robin Hood Airport (“the airport”)

is subject to the current terms and conditions of Doncaster Sheffield Airport Limited (“the company”)

and

the airport byelaws regulating the use and operation of the airport

and the conduct of all persons while within the airport.

These conditions contain limited exemption clauses affecting all persons who enter or use the car parks.

Copies are available for inspection on request.

 

http://www.robinhoodairport.com/car-parking/more-parking-information/

 

http://www.robinhoodairport.com/uploads/documents/DSA_Car_Park_Terms_and_Conditions.pdf

 

And here are the elusive byelaws;

 

http://www.davidmarq.com/bama/doncaster%20airport%20byelaws.pdf

 

* Apologies for formatting!

Edited by dx100uk
sorted - dx
Link to post
Share on other sites

In other words,

the Road Traffic Act shall be the method of deciding whether something is covered by prohibition

except a few things such as having spotlights on your car or leaving the car with the engine running

(always a popular thing in Belfast a few years ago just as a wind up).

 

So, double yellow lines mean no parking at any time, not no stopping or setting down, which is allowed in RTA.

 

Nowhere does it say pay VCS, just you may be prosecuted and fined.

 

Also means their signage must be compliant with the Regs for roads and how many are? hardly any I bet.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Nothing further until end of June when

 

I received a letter offering a further 10 days to settle the account before clients instruction to take it further.

 

Seems to be BW legal standard letter as mentioned by many of posters on this forum

 

. Today (over 3 weeks later) BW Legal have phoned and left a message for me to ring them back URGENTLY

 

. Obviously the first thing I did when I got home was to NOT ring them

, but to update this thread.

 

What Next?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Laugh

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...