ian duncan smith

[determindator]

Oh lord you are so very trusting.

 

[tommy456]

I believe he was stating just that, he was disturbed the cuts were being made at the cost of the needy to fund the tax relief of those not needy.

 

There will be cynicism but lets cling onto the hope this is genuine. It's good to know it's never too late to think it through and change your mind. That's progressive thinking.

Nothing about this vile man leaving has anything to do with him suddenly having a conscience, he has never cared about any one and never will

[tobyjugg2]

I believe he was stating just that, he was disturbed the cuts were being made at the cost of the needy to fund the tax relief of those not needy.

 

Yes, he said that, but my point is that as in every other direct question about the benefit cuts he unquestionably SUPPORTED cuts ...

and at no stage did he unquestionably criticise the tax cuts for the rich ....

 

... its only the two being seen/linked together and dumped in his lap he really seemed to be genuinely objecting to.

[Tawnyowl]

Jeremy Corbyn says George Osborne must resign in the wake of Iain Duncan Smith's resignation - live

The Prime Minister will today mount a "passionate and powerful" fightback against Iain Duncan Smith as Tory MPs pile pressure on the Chancellor to rewrite his Budget

 

• Cameron to mount a fightback against Iain Duncan Smith

• Government to U-turn on plans to change PIP payments

• Osborne will have to move departments if he wants to be leader

• Corbyn: Osborne should concider his position and resign

• Michael Howard tells Tory MPs to 'calm down'

• The 'real' reason Iain Duncan Smith resigned

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/12199917/Iain-Duncan-Smith-David-Cameron-Tory-crisis-disability-benefit-live.html

[ripples]

David Cameron say George Osborne has his full confidence, oh dear........ It won't be long now then

[Tawnyowl]

Things are heating up.All there with video on the Telegraph link.

Will be interesting to see what happens as the day wears on.

 

The Conservative MP Chris Philp has told the BBC's Daily Politics that the Government's u-turn on disability payments is actually a "sign of strength" and "maturity."

However, the Labour MP Chuka Umunna described George Osborne as a "con artist".

[Tawnyowl]

Eyes of a Great White Shark come to mind.

Well a hell of a mess he has left.

Still investigations how sanctions have hurt people.Wait till those reports come out.

And many more things to come to the surface.

As ripples says.

David Cameron say George Osborne has his full confidence, oh dear

 

Well i will not forget what this shark has achieved,biggest mess ever.

Hurt so many vulnerable people who find it hard to fight back.

Blinkered,only see things one way.I have said enough,just a view.Slightly angry about what i am seeing.

In 2016.

 

Robert Peston speaks to Iain Duncan Smith after his resignation

[tommy456]

Robert Peston speaks to Iain Duncan Smith after his resignation,

 

I hear more lies and other guff from ibs's mouth in that video and no doubt he will still be eating £39 breakfasts at the expense of the tax payer

[Tawnyowl]

16:40 Latest.

Corbyn hits out at Cameron

From Kate McCann who is in the Chamber: Well that was a roller coaster of a speech by Jeremy Corbyn, who started off OK, meandered for a while and then bellowed his final lines to the PM so much that he

lost his voice at one point

.

Lost his voice,my keypad has worn out.There is so much anger across the country .

Despite the labour leader's angry tone Mr Cameron is responding in a quiet and measured manner, clearly the PM has decided the best way forward is carefully, given the row on his own benches.

To be a fly on the wall,or in the bars. Business must be brisk.

War is on the cards.

The best thing in these modern days is social media.Let them know how you feel.

No hiding place.

Ah,that's better.

 

Off we go again.

'Whatever has happened to the Chancellor of the Exchequer?'

Jeremy Corbyn says: “Whatever has happened to the Chancellor of the Exchequer? Where is he today?

“Could he not instead of covering up for his friend ask him if he could be kind enough to come to the house and ask why, for the first time in my memory, the government’s Budget has fallen apart within two days of its delivery?”

“Perhaps he should consider his position and look at something else to do because he hasn’t been very successful at producing a balanced Budget!"

PM David Cameron hits back, saying: “When it comes to holes in the Budget we can perhaps hear from the Time Lords who sit opposite because they left us with the biggest black hole that ever was!”

[tommy456]

16:40 Latest.

Corbyn hits out at Cameron

From Kate McCann who is in the Chamber: Well that was a roller coaster of a speech by Jeremy Corbyn, who started off OK, meandered for a while and then bellowed his final lines to the PM so much that he .

Lost his voice,my keypad has worn out.There is so much anger across the country .

Despite the labour leader's angry tone Mr Cameron is responding in a quiet and measured manner, clearly the PM has decided the best way forward is carefully, given the row on his own benches.

To be a fly on the wall,or in the bars. Business must be brisk.

War is on the cards.

The best thing in these modern days is social media.Let them know how you feel.

No hiding place.

Ah,that's better.

 

Off we go again.

'Whatever has happened to the Chancellor of the Exchequer?'

Jeremy Corbyn says: “Whatever has happened to the Chancellor of the Exchequer? Where is he today?

“Could he not instead of covering up for his friend ask him if he could be kind enough to come to the house and ask why, for the first time in my memory, the government’s Budget has fallen apart within two days of its delivery?”

“Perhaps he should consider his position and look at something else to do because he hasn’t been very successful at producing a balanced Budget!"

PM David Cameron hits back, saying: “When it comes to holes in the Budget we can perhaps hear from the Time Lords who sit opposite because they left us with the biggest black hole that ever was!”

 

My thoughts on scamercon's comments are and which party did New Labour follow (aka tory light)

and wasn't it under thatcher that the bank's were given more than enough rope? what about the false economy created by thatchers housing boom It goes deeper than the last labour government , or course telling the truth isn't one of the strong points amongst politicians

[tobyjugg2]

PM David Cameron hits back, saying: “When it comes to holes in the Budget we can perhaps hear from the Time Lords who sit opposite because they left us with the biggest black hole that ever was!”

 

And despite his being quite correct, that simply avoids answering the question of why they are actually making that black hole bigger despite all their promises.

[Tawnyowl]

For those that want to listen to the goings on.The chief filibusterer was on a moment ago.May be some things you would like to hear.

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/12199917/Iain-Duncan-Smith-David-Cameron-Tory-crisis-disability-benefit-live.html

[Tawnyowl]

And despite his being quite correct, that simply avoids answering the question of why they are actually making that black hole bigger despite all their promises.

 

A fine post.A massive black hole.That Houdini would find difficult to get out of.

[Tawnyowl]

My thoughts on [problem]ercon's comments are and which party did New Labour follow (aka tory light)

and wasn't it under thatcher that the bank's were given more than enough rope? what about the false economy created by thatchers housing boom It goes deeper than the last labour government , or course telling the truth isn't one of the strong points amongst politicians

 

I agree their noses grow longer by the day.

Heating up a touch then for a moment,cooled down again now.Speaker calmed things,drat.

Someone give a little serious pressure.Maybe it will happen.

 

'Only cats have nine lives'

The Labour’ MP Dennis Skinner has asked if this will be Osborne’s last budget.

 

He points out that he has had eight already and that only cats have nine lives.

"No," Cameron replies.

[unclebulgaria67]

The IFS have said they think any budget surplus by 2019/20 is a 50/50 chance. If the Tories fail, they will have had a significant deficit for 10 years and be close to a total debt of 2000 billion. When Labour left office in May 2010 the debt was 590 billion and the economy was growing. Call that a successful long term economic way of running an economy. You cannot just cut spending and make changes to taxation, hoping that the economy delivers. Government needs to play an active part with investments.

[Tawnyowl]

Omnishambles' budget now looks like a 'model of policy making'

A number of Labour MPs have stood up to ask if the red book still the "basis of the Budget" and says this budget makes the omnishambles one look like a "model of policy making."

Chris Leslie, the Labour former shadow chancellor, asks how MPs can vote on the budget tomorrow if the scorecard in the budget red book is no longer accurate.

 

It is 'insulting' Osborne is not responding to Labour's Urgent Question

John McDonnell MP, Labour’s Shadow Chancellor has responded to the news that George Osborne is not responding to Labour's Urgent Question on the chaos around the Budget.

He said: "It's unacceptable to the country and insulting to Parliament that the Chancellor is not turning up to respond to my Urgent Question on the chaos of his making around a Budget he delivered only last week which had collapsed by Friday night.

 

Cameron and Osborne 'hang together or they hang separately'

Former Business Secretary Sir Vince Cable said Mr Cameron's "fingerprints are all over this just as much as George Osborne".

He told BBC Radio 4's World at One programme: "It was his personal refusal to tackle issues like the tax benefits of

very wealthy pensioners

which has forced them into attacking the disabled and the working poor."

 

Stephen Crabb talking now.

[Tawnyowl]

Government announces there are no plans for further cuts to welfare

Stephen Crabb, the new Welfare and Pensions Secretary, has said there will be no more welfare savings in this Parliament.

He announced the government will not be going ahead with changes to PIP and that there will be no further plans to make welfare savings in this parliament.

“We will not be going ahead with the changes to PIP that had been put forward,” he said

“I am absolutely clear that a compassionate and fair welfare system should not just be about numbers.

“Behind every statistic is a human being and perhaps sometimes in government we forget that.

 

Who is Stephen Crabb?

Appointed amid the furore of Iain Duncan Smith's explosive resignation, Stephen Crabb has already been tipped to make the headlines in his own right.

The 43-year-old former Welsh secretary, raised by his mother on a council estate in Haverfordwest, has a back story that contrasts sharply with that of many of his cabinet colleagues.

He has spoken in interviews of the "horrible decisions about what food and clothing was affordable" as he was growing up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35851269

[determindator]

The Agenda ITV now is a good listen

[tobyjugg2]

and although the reversed (well only partially if you look into it) disabled benefits slashing is quite rightly causing political furor, what is being completely missed is that the budget is stealing from future budgets in an attempt to set up the pension system for the next fall

 

http://home.bt.com/news/news-extra/george-osborne-is-stealing-money-from-future-chancellors-according-to-money-expert-martin-lewis-11364046535560

 

 

another of dunny-can Smith and the Tory parties great causes

[Tawnyowl]

Well we have given Stephen Cragg a little time to settle in.

Stephen Crabb faces calls to resign as patron of a local disability charity

Crabb is the fourth Conservative politician to face calls to resign as a patron of a disability charity over the past week.

 

The London mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith, Kit Malthouse, MP for North West Hampshire, and James Cleverly, MP for Braintree, were asked to step down from their roles with three different disability charities after voting for the £30 a week disability benefit cuts.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/stephen-crabb-faces-calls-resign-patron-local-disability-charity/policy-and-politics/article/1388256

 

Billions of pounds of welfare cuts on way despite PIP U-turn

Ministers say no more social security cuts – but have approved a huge package of savings for this parliament already

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/23/pip-u-turn-billions-of-pounds-welfare-cuts?CMP=share_btn_tw

[Chester6]

Except the economy was recovering until the ConDems we're in

Plus the new guy is as bad as the old one

[tobyjugg2]

Well we have given Stephen Cragg a little time to settle in.

Stephen Crabb faces calls to resign as patron of a local disability charity

Crabb is the fourth Conservative politician to face calls to resign as a patron of a disability charity over the past week.

 

The London mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith, Kit Malthouse, MP for North West Hampshire, and James Cleverly, MP for Braintree, were asked to step down from their roles with three different disability charities after voting for the £30 a week disability benefit cuts.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/stephen-crabb-faces-calls-resign-patron-local-disability-charity/policy-and-politics/article/1388256

 

Billions of pounds of welfare cuts on way despite PIP U-turn

Ministers say no more social security cuts – but have approved a huge package of savings for this parliament already

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/23/pip-u-turn-billions-of-pounds-welfare-cuts?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

 

Link seems to be struggling Tawnyowl

Hers an alternative

https://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/03/three-tory-mps-have-been-disowned-as-patrons-by-mental-health-charities-for-cutting-disabled-support/

 

and here regarding benefit cuts still on

https://welfaretales.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/billions-of-pounds-of-welfare-cuts-on-way-despite-pip-u-turn/

 

 

and this might be worth a read

http://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-herald/20160323/281805693053848/textview

[citizenB]

Well we have given Stephen Cragg a little time to settle in.

Stephen Crabb faces calls to resign as patron of a local disability charity

Crabb is the fourth Conservative politician to face calls to resign as a patron of a disability charity over the past week.

 

The London mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith, Kit Malthouse, MP for North West Hampshire, and James Cleverly, MP for Braintree, were asked to step down from their roles with three different disability charities after voting for the £30 a week disability benefit cuts.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/stephen...rticle/1388256

 

 

And rightly so ! How on earth did they expect to maintain those positions if they voted for the cuts ?

[Chester6]

And rightly so ! How on earth did they expect to maintain those positions if they voted for the cuts ?

 

Probably expected to stay as they didn't expect any consequences

[tobyjugg2]

Probably expected to stay as they didn't expect any consequences

 

I'm still quite surprised at even the partial and temporary turnaround, even with IDS' very welcome treacherous sneak attack from the rear ....