Paypal & GPB Solictors

[sootylfc]

Here is a brief outline

 

I sold a TV on preloved - the buyer contacted me via phone asked could the pick the TV up and pay via paypal.

 

He arrived with his partner and made the paypal via his sisters paypal account - he told me this at the time.

 

1 month later paypal said the account had been used authorized and they was going to carry out an investigation.

 

i contacted thebuyer via phone and he told me his sisters account had all recent transactions recalled - Which i never believed.

 

i had to provide Paypal with the evidence - i sent the text conversions we had to arrange the pick up.

 

Paypal refunded the buyer - The buyer then told me there was nothing i could do to get the money back and i was not going to get the TV.

 

I have texts from the buyer boasting saying there is nothing i can do to get the money back so do what i want. These texts are all saved.

 

Paypal then tried to recall the payment from my card - i cancelled the direct debit and my card with them so they could not do this.

 

I have recently received the attached letter.

 

Shall i ignore the letter? Do they have a case?

 

Am i wrong in thinking if a family member uses your account its not classed as unauthorized ?

 

Any advise would be much appreciated.

 

here is the latest letter i have got.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45666[/ATTACH]

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2013 by citizenB
better picture - Removed personal details

[Bombaymix]

The attachment is very blurred but I get the general idea.

From a pretend fake solicitors... Ignore it.

 

I'd be considering taking this matter to the police to be honest.

 

Have a look here http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

 

PayPal are a waste of space, they always seem to side with the buyer. A crime reference number from action fraud should sort them out!

 

Regards

 

BM

[sootylfc]

I took this to the police they sent me to the above address. I completed the form but heard nothing back.

 

The police even rang the person and it didn't have an impact.

[johnym]

You’ve found out the hard way how unsafe PayPal can be for sellers. Seems suspicious why someone would want to insist on paying using their sisters PayPal account on a collection item listed on Pre-Loved.

 

Well done for cancelling the direct debit and the card you had on file so they can’t help themselves. Pity you didn’t have the buyers address, I’d be straight round demanding my goods back!

 

As said above a crime reference number usually makes DCA’s run a mile when it comes to PayPal debts. If not there’s not a lot they can do except make empty threats.

[sootylfc]

Should i respond with the reference i got off the actionfraud.police.uk website?

 

 

Or just keep ignoring the letters?

 

Can they take me to court?

[citizenB]

Yes, send a short letter advising that you have been the victim of a fraud and you have been provided with a reference / crime number.

 

That you hope they will now cease harassing you.

[johnym]

I might be wrong but I’ve never known anyone to be taken to court over a PayPal debt.

[sootylfc]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45656[/ATTACH]Update

 

received the above letter 07/08/2013

 

The company is akinika debt recovery

 

Will anyone turn up?

[Hammy1962]

From a pretend fake solicitors... Ignore it.

 

Is a pretend fake solicitor not just a genuine one!

 

H

[citizenB]

I have removed your name from the images in post 1.

 

As for the latest letter you have received..

 

1: They are not permitted to simply turn up on your doorstep without making an appointment, and presumably you are not going to make one !

2: If they do turn up, what are their intentions ? They have no power to enter your property. They MUST leave your property when asked. If they make any attempt to intimidate, harass you, then you can call the police!

 

This it the type of behaviour we would expect from an unlicensed loan shark. And the very reason that protections were brought in for the consumer.

[citizenB]

Have you reported this to the Police? You might not have the Buyer's address - but PayPal have the Sister's details.

[sootylfc]

Have you reported this to the Police? You might not have the Buyer's address - but PayPal have the Sister's details.

 

Thanks for the advise above -

 

I reported this to the police and they said i had to report it here actionfraud.police.uk and if it was a matter for them they would be contacted.

 

Cheers

[citizenB]

Hmm, not particularly helpful response from the police was it ?

[sootylfc]

Hmm, not particularly helpful response from the police was it ?

nope especially when he admitted it on the phone to them

[ericsbrother]

a note for all reader: never EVER accept Paypal for items that are collected in person, you have no protection whatsoever. Sorry for this poster they have done what they can to bring the crook to book but experience tells me that actionfraud will do nothing

[selsipahi]

I was in similar situation with you, received two "solicitors" letters on last June and July, and two debt warning letters earlier. L have sent a reply letter on 09.07.2013 including action fraud reference as suggested by CitizenB. Thanks to him and everyone here, I have not received any more letter from them.

 

Of course I am not using my Paypal account for the last 5-6 months and I will never use it again.

 

Best wishes..

 

Selsipahi

[citizenB]

We are seeing quite a few PayPal/Ebay issues on CAG at the moment. As of yet, we have not seen PP or Ebay issue a claim against anyone.