DLA180 Form test to reduce your benefit

[cher69cher69]

If it wasnt bad enought trying to fill in the original form to apply for dla 48 pages if i remember correctly with included god knows how many page guide to fill it in. What a bloody joke.

 

Imagine you have had an severe mental collapse you dont know what day it is or your name for that matter, you are scared of your own shadow never mind answer the door and the telephone makes you cower in a corner.

 

Then Mr Cameron decides hey lets put the wind up these nutters pretending to have a mental illness and send em another form to fill in then we will send em off for a medical then interrogate them for an hour or so, that should get rid of a few scroungers. That is what he thinks what an a--hole.

 

This form could tip someone over the edge who has a mental illness, they havent got a bloody clue just how something like this can affect someone with a mental illness. I hope to god mr cameron it never happens to you.

:mad2::mad2:

[padja]

You would have thought that with Cameron having a disabled child that he would have had great empathy with people with disabilities yet him and his Henchman IDS seem to have gone out of their way to catch out people and persecute them. The Nasty Party are alive and well

[count orlok]

It has, he and his wife used to claim DLA for their son.

[count orlok]

The Nasty Party are alive and well

 

Perhaps they got Social Democrats mixed up with National Socialists?

[padja]

LOL yeah still Nick Clegg makes a mean cup of tea

[Bang!]

Both cameron's father and son were disabled. But they are both dead now, so why should anyone else get disability benefits?

[cher69cher69]

Both cameron's father and son were disabled. But they are both dead now, so why should anyone else get disability benefits?

 

Exactly !! though i am sorry for his loss i wouldnt wish that on anyone! As i too have lost a son amd my father !but i bet there was no problem with his application. Like i say it is a joke !my father who cud hardly walk who was crippled with arthritus in his knees as a result of crawling on his hands and knees on sharp coal as a miner for most of his life he hot pneumoconiosis and had copd and he was partially deaf and got turned down for aallowance. He was probed by a doctor who asked him misleading questions and we ended up appealling at tribunal. the man at the tribunal apologised to my dad for the way the dwp had treated him and said it was obvious my dad needed the help he had stated and said the dwp should be ashamed treating an old man like that. it just shoudnt have to be like that i am beginning to hate politicians they are all out for themselves and couldnt give a toss about the peoole of this country

Edited April 1, 2012 by cher69cher69

[queensclose]

sadly the benefit system is being abused left right and centre. its on the television every day. and its the genuine claimants who seem to fall foul while the [problematic] stay one step ahead.

[Nystagmite]

There;s actually not a huge amount of fraud as the papers make out. Especially disability benefit fraud.

[count orlok]

sadly the benefit system is being abused left right and centre. its on the television every day. and its the genuine claimants who seem to fall foul while the [problematic] stay one step ahead.

 

That is exactly what you are supposed to believe. So the Beeb is sent files of half a dozen people on disability benefits to show at prime time, and that is supposed to make every one think all the thousands of legitimate claims are also false, to say nothing of all those who die waiting or kill them selves.

 

Pity they don't show a series on them at prime time. Like the stroke victim who lost his DLA shown on West-country news.

[cher69cher69]

What winds me up more than anything is the fact the Government /DWP use their so called independent medical examiners to do these medicals who are only general doctors and do not specialise on any particular field. So for instance how can a GP evaluate the condition of someone with a mental ilness when your own GP can't who has to refer you to a psychiatrist. The government say they want to save money but it is going to cost

millions to re -evaluate all these claims and it is also undermining the competance of the specialists who made the original diagnosis. I mean who the hell is this company the government have employed to give people medicals what are their qualifications does anyone know?? To be honest they could be anybody we wouldnt't know as they sit there ticking their boxes, they could be car mechanics for all we know!!!

Edited April 1, 2012 by cher69cher69

[Nystagmite]

What winds me up more than anything iz the fact the government /dwp use their so cslled independent gps to do the medicals who are not specialists on any field. so for instance how can a gp evaluate the condition of someone with a mental ilness it takes a psychiatrist to fo that. the government say they want to save money but it iz cost

millions to re evaluate all these claims and underminig the competance of specialists made the original diagnosis of patients. i mean who the hell is this company the government have employed to give people ?medicals

 

At least if it's your GP / consultant, they have access to your medical records and know you much better.

[cher69cher69]

I agree totally it must be costing the government millions to employ this so called independant assessor to go through all the claims they are re-evaluating and also all the extra work it is going to put on the DWP sending out new forms, and sorting them when they are returned.There is also the cost of appeals and tribunals, because i know for a fact that some people are appealing as many as four times. This is all costing the government and it all adds up, so at the end of the day what are they actually going to be saving. I reckon in the end they will save nothing and it will end up being a very costly excercise as well as making sick and vulnerable people feel like liars and cheats, making their lives even more miserable than they already are. Mr Cameron you should be ashamed of yourself especially as you have been through this form filling and probing into your private life, having your own family go through medicals etc all that goes with applying for DLA or did you get a short cut because of who you are and your standing in the community because you wouldnt dream of telling lies now would you???

Edited April 1, 2012 by cher69cher69

[cher69cher69]

It makes my blood boil when I read forum posts and in the media where people spout their verbal diorrhea about a subject they no very little about. These idiots rant on about scroungers and layabouts on benefits when if the truth be known the majority of people on benefits have worked most of their lives and paid their taxes, and a lot have worked a damn site harder in their time in work than some of these mouthpieces will do in a lifetime. From the age of 15 I used to work from 6am till sometimes 2 am the following day, with very few breaks, and it was a physical job, not sat at a desk pushing buttons. I mean scrubbing floors and walls, and i did this for very little wages too. This is one of the reasons a lot of people end up on DLA, or AA, because of the hard jobs they have done when they were younger to make ends meet. The body can only take so much abuse before it wears out, and we are all different. People just dont think of these things, not everyone on benefits left school and went straight on benefits, some of us and a good majority, have worked bloody hard most of our lifes, before there was a minimum wage employers could pay you what they liked but nobody moaned we just got on with it. I would like to see David Cameron on his hands and knees for hours on end, working for a pittence. But of course we will never see that, because he does very little, and gets paid well over the amount he actually deserves.Like most Mp's and others i parliament, I don't know how they can stand there pontificating to the public about how we need to tighten our belts, when he and his cronies are being waited on hand and foot, stuffing their big fat mouths with only the very finest food and drink. Because I doubt it very much that they will be watching their pennies and serving corned beef hash at these shmoozing dinner parties !!!

Edited April 1, 2012 by cher69cher69

[Nystagmite]

Agreed. I do know a few people who have had to write to various newspapers several times to get papers to get their facts right - especially when it comes to DLA and working.

[cher69cher69]

Just to end my mad rant I would like to say that obviously I am not stupid and I am aware that ther are people that falsify claims for DLA or AA. But I would say that I would imagine the only reason they do this is to make up the poxy amount they get on income support, because that in itself is not enough to live on. Mr Cameron could you live on what the government states that a couple need to live on per week??????Err what was it again? OH YES! the last time I checked I think it was £92.00 a week per couple. This government makes me laugh so hard my sides hurt!!!

[Nystagmite]

It's actually £105.95 per week for a couple.

[cher69cher69]

It's actually £105.95 per week for a couple.

 

sorry about the misinformation but i did say the last time i checked! but thankyou for the correction.!

[Nystagmite]

Still not a lot though!

[45002]

What is a DLA 180 form ? anyone got a link to one,Thanks....

[Nystagmite]

I think it's the new shorter form. You just tick a few boxes.

[45002]

I think it's the new shorter form. You just tick a few boxes.

 

OK,Thanks.....

[geoffthechef]

sadly the benefit system is being abused left right and centre. its on the television every day. and its the genuine claimants who seem to fall foul while the [problematic] stay one step ahead.

 

 

another fool falls for the propaganda...DO YOUR HOMEWORK

Fraud accounted for just 0.5% of DLA spending.

 

 

 

14. DLA fraud is comparatively rare. DWP statistics published in June showed that overpayments due to fraud accounted for a smaller proportion of spending on DLA than on Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance, Pension Credit, Housing Benefit, Carer’s Allowance or Council Tax Benefit. Fraud accounted for just 0.5% of DLA spending. All fraud is wrong and any amount is too much but focusing on this issue as if it were one of the most important features of the system is unbalanced.

 

 

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmworpen/1493/1493vw07.htm

[Nystagmite]

I think it's the second lowest fraud after ESA? (0.3%)

[45002]

DLA

 

It's the self assessment which is main problem in fraud on DLA claims,which is why self assessment is ending and everyone on DLA between 16 and 64 claims will End over a 3 years period and your have to claim PIP

 

From 2013 the Government is proposing to introduce a new benefit called Personal Independence Payment for eligible working age people aged 16 to 64 to replace Disability Living Allowance (DLA).

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/policy/disability/personal-independence-payment/

 

Which is going to make it harder for genuine claimants to get PIP.